― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Mark Co (Markco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)
I'm interested in the characters who made a transition from "fan favourite" to actual favourite, like Wolverine.
Also the characters who have been solid journeymen for ages and never actually been fan-favourites. Banshee was a good example - plodded along for ages, never more than a couple of years between appearances, but it still didn't feel like an event when they finally offed him.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)
― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Mark Co (Markco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)
I associate fan favourites with small but mental fan followings too, i.e. Nightwing.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)
Also (urrgh): Lobo.
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)
In 2000AD the most notorious fan-favourite is surely Slaine: a character very far past his sell-by and regularly bottom of most readers polls but there's apparently a significant proportion of fans who only buy the thing because Slaine's in it and would stop if they ever axed (ho ho) him.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)
So 'pressure for continued appearances regardless of quality' is part of it I think.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)
Green Arrow!
And then there's also the unfan-unfavourite, like Superman and Batman, who is quite often at his most interesting within the context of a team
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)
Then there are characters which we are led to believe are fan favourites but actualy only appear so much because a particular writer likes them a lot (ie Spider woman and half the New Avengers)
― Mark Co (Markco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)
― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)
Nightwing is a good example of DC milking the Batcow semi-dry. Does Dick Grayson really work as a character outside of Batman and/or the Teen Titans, whatever team book he is in this week. In Batman he is the ray of light, in team books he is the ray of darkness (Batman's representative on Earth). But we already have a Robin doing all those things. Fan favourite character = something we aren not sure what to do with.
Squirrel Girl of course is probably in the throes of this process at the moment.
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)
― _chrissie (chrissie1068), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)
- Chamber- Airboy- Usagi Yojimbo- Howard The Duck- Blue Beetle- Bleu (from Blue Monday)- Beta Ray Bill- Wolverine (in a movie context)- Dawn- Colossus- Slam Bradley
"fan favourite character" gives us
- Angela- Lady Jane (from Swamp Thing)- Killer Moth (!!!)- Raven
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)
I often think fan favourite, as alluded to above, means writer favourite - emphasising the problem with so many creators being fan first.
Fan neutral characters: it would appear The Thing has made it to that level these days!
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Mark Co (Markco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)
(applies either to Raven news or Joey Da Queue)
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)
by Marv Wolfman
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)
― The Yellow Kid, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)
― c(''c) (Leee), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)
― i0dine, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)
(But then I like Firestorm too, so what do I know)
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 06:39 (nineteen years ago)
All puns intended.
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)
They need to bring back her comedy chubster sidekick, and have every issue feature WW being tied up and/or flogged. That would do it.
I liked WW in Earth2... it was like she had the kind of majestic quality that I had never formally associated with her, but which a central universe character like that ought to have.
It has to be said that not being able to hold down a solo book is not a mark of rubbishness. Many great charactes only work in teams.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)
― k b, Thursday, 25 May 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 25 May 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)
― James Morrison (JRSM), Thursday, 25 May 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)
Hope nu-Wonder Woman finds a way of bringing him back.
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 25 May 2006 10:35 (nineteen years ago)
I was thinking about this concept again today, for is not Madame Xanadu a fan favorite?
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Saturday, 23 May 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)
not, I think
― Lovely release! (sic), Sunday, 24 May 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)
I think they just like the Kaluta cover and don't give a rat's ass about the character.
― Matt M., Sunday, 24 May 2009 05:18 (sixteen years ago)
DC-
The QuestionManhunter (any permutation)Doctor FateNew Gods/Forever People/Mister Miracle
DC tried all of these titles and they never seemed to catch on. They were able to get the 80s Dr. Fate to run for 41 issues, but they are like 0-5 on trying to get the title to catch back on since. None of the 4th World titles ever seemed to run more than a couple of years.
I'm not sure that Nightwing would count. DC was able to keep his series running for over 150 issues, which is a pretty good run, albeit not a big seller.
― earlnash, Sunday, 24 May 2009 14:28 (sixteen years ago)
The Question wasn't published because the character was a fan favorite, it was because the OG was Ditko and thus the book itself had stans and b) DC were trying to justify the purchase of the OP
OG Manhunter again stanned due to creative team, OP reactivation with different characters means character can't be claimed to be f.f.
Doctor Fate - maybe? but did they claim they were launching all those series bcz he was a fan favorite? might have been amongst the Roy Thomas-aged All Star Neckbeards, fair enough, but otherwise was pretty much only ever published due to Giffen's fannery: top of my head, 1987 4-issue mini by Giffen & DeMatteis, 1989 ongoing by DeMatteis and Macmanus, 1997ish tattoo-eyed revival by Giffen?
― Lovely release! (sic), Sunday, 24 May 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)