ACK, my ship is showing: Nov. 15, 2006

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ANYWAY: ABSOLUTE NEW FRONTIER BONERPALOOZA!!!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 November 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I think that Image listing "waterloo sunset" is actually some Ron Marz project called "Russian Sunset". At least that's the closest I could find to "Waterloo Sunset" on the Image website.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 November 2006 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

52 Week #28 (Ralph turns up in Nanda Pabat and gets stoned on some Gingold that's past it's sell-by date)
Aquaman Sword Of Atlantis #45 (plot resolves by a GIANT FITE)
Astro City The Dark Age Book 2 #1 (I really like Astro City, but this is in danger of reading like Powers)
Catwoman Vol 3 #61 (Film Freak plot ends WITH A GIANT BOMB)
Deadman Vol 4 #4 (I think they're explaining this as sort of Elseworlds. I'm confused as shit, but kind of want to see how it pans out)
Hellblazer #226 (Denise Mina's run has been solid enough, but muddy art makes the whole thing a chore)
OMAC Vol 2 #5 (Brother Eye finally gets fixed. I predict a FITE.)
Omega Men Vol 2 #2 (The Omega Men bring the Spider Guild to Earth. IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO LIKE.)
Jack Staff Vol 2 #12 (Alan Moore talks Jack out existence to stop him FITEing Elric. I wish I was making this up.)
Iron Man Vol 4 #13 (starts the post Civil War plotline, and possibly starts the end of me buying this)
Marvel 1602 Fantastick Four #3 (Better than the previous 2 series)
Ultimate Fantastic Four #36 (Thanos eats Reed's BRANE)
Union Jack Vol 2 #3 (I'm enjoying this, even if it is kinds dumb)

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

OMG, you're reading OMAC?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

and yeah, Omega Men is awesomely fun, and fantastic art!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

OMAC is actually kind of fun. There's a guy who seems to contain all the remaining OMAC technology, which generally seems to kick in only when it's needed. Meanwhile Brother Eye is trying to rebuild itself, and as it does it gets more control over the OMAC guy.

It actually reads a lot like the action sequences in Ex Machina.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I am getting Absolute New Frontier for Christmas, I believe, so I am not buying it this week. Probably just as well, judging by the "stuff awaiting reading" thread.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

52, Green Lantern Corps, Astonishing X-Men, Civil War, New Avengers. And maybe Essential Iron-Man V. 2, since I just finished up the first, and I absolutely gotta know if Happy survives surgery, comes out of his coma, and finally smiles when he realizes that Pepper really loves him.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think Deadman is just, oh, some other thing, since Boston Brand has lately been seen (or has he? WINK WINK) in JLA.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Probably just Astonishing for me (and last week's stuff).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Diamond list is up: http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/shipping_111506.txt

THE ESCAPISTS #5 (damn you, BKV, you've got me interested)
52 WEEK #28 (although nothing can be as good as Dibny Diary)
BIRDS OF PREY #100 (Bulleteer!)
CIVIL WAR #5 (deep sigh)
NEW AVENGERS #25 (deeper sigh)
LUBA: THREE DAUGHTERS (which will apparently have a bunch of new stuff in it)

― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

52, Astonishing X-Men, Civil War, New Avengers, and Ultimate FF for me. Kinda excited about Astonishing, I'm curious to see how "Torn" wraps up.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Monday, 13 November 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

LUBA: THREE DAUGHTERS (which will apparently have a bunch of new stuff in it)

Thanks for pointing this out.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 November 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Picks:

CYCLOPS AND HIS ASTONISHING BROWN EYES
TEENBEAT BEN GRIMM & PALS
GURGLES, THE HIP HOP RAPPIN' ROBOT

(one of these is apocryphal)

― Richard Baez (Johnny Logic), Monday, 13 November 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

hopefully:

SOCK MONKEY: THE INCHES INCIDENT #2(though I can't remember what happened in #1)
POPEYE
MOOMIN
APOCALYPSE NERD #4 (though I think I've actually been to the floppy shop since this came out and they just didn't bother to order it even for standing orders)

and I don't think anyone will have ordered
LUBA: THREE DAUGHTERS
so I'll probably end up getting it mail order from the US in a year or so.

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Monday, 13 November 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

OK, so I bought the first ish of Omega Men, because 2 of your goobers went cuckoo for it. (Also almost bought a set of original Omega Man issues - #1 thru #18, I think.) Will report back shortly.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

52 WEEK #28
ABSOLUTE DC THE NEW FRONTIER HC
GREEN LANTERN CORPS #6

what is Waterloo Sunset???

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

a blur song

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

KINKS

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

blount, you're losing it.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 04:08 (nineteen years ago)

there's no way he could be joking!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

I know

because blount's usually FUNNY

hence, "losing it"

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone on here reading Making Comics?

Feel like splurging at the shop today, for no particular reason.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm splurging next week, it's an unusually big week, especially if you're a Brian K Vaughan fan.

I've only read Astonishing X-Men thus far from this week's haul, and it's...okay. Sorta disappointing, and there's something that's rather unclear to me at the end but I don't want to bring it up cos it's a big spoiler.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

What BKV is out next week? Runaways + Doc Stache + Y?

― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

HA!
you dudes need to go back to rock school

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I read Y The Last Man and Ex Machina in trades, and there are new trades for both of those coming out next week along with the new issue of Runaways.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

i'm debating whether to get the next ex machina trade as the last one was pretty disappointing.

nice colours though.

and nice colours in y the last man too.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

You probably shouldn't, s1ocki.

― c('°c) (Leee), Thursday, 16 November 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

ABSOLUTE GOO GOO GAH GAH

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 16 November 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

absolute baby?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 16 November 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, turned out to be just 52 and Checkmate for me. Man, am I digging Checkmate! Kobra actually seems like a believable terrorist org.

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 16 November 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

what band is Ray Davies from, blount?

Anyone on here reading Making Comics?

after reading other peoples' copies of New Adventures Of Abe Lincoln and Reinventing Comics when they came out, I can't see myself ever paying for any McCloud comics other than the back-issues of Zot I'm missing.

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Thursday, 16 November 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, can anyone give me an opinion on that new Omega Men book? I was looking at that in the shop and it seemed inexplicably appealing. The art was kinda cool for a fourth-string DC book, anyway.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 16 November 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

First issue = awesome. But I am an Omega Men fanboy.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 16 November 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

4th-string, hmm?

1st-string = Superbro, Batdude, JLA?
2nd-string = LOSH, JSA, Green Lantern?
3rd-string = Catwoman, Blue Beetle, Shadowpact?

Aldo, tell me / us about the ORIGINAL Omega Men (either in this thread, or its own).

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 16 November 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Catwoman's second string.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oooh, it's like a cross between LoSH and Suicide Squad, or maybe even The Losers. A group of terrorists/freedom fighters who are REALLY GOOD GUYS, JUST MISUNDERSTOOD go on the run across the Vegan star system, trying to rally support for a revolution against the ruling regime.

Since the Green Lanterns are CORRUPT SELL-OUTS they agreed with the Spider Guild (a quasi-religious faction) not to get involved in Vega so the Omega Men are in effect the only real heroes in their system (despite frequently behaving more like pirates than anybody else).

Upside: In less than 40 issues, body count of 7 i.e. quite high. Downside: introduced Lobo.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

"4th string" would be the books DC puts out that have seriously limited appeal and seem to be published either as a favor to the creators, to keep copyrights alive, or to meet some bizarre quota. You know - Ion, Connor Hawke, Blue Beetle, Omac, Shadowpact, Firestorm, The Next, Martian Manhunter.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Catwoman is totally second string, and these days Green Lantern would be a first string book since it is now inexplicably popular.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Green Lantern will always be 2nd-string in my heart until IT STOPS SUCKING.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

I think David's right about the 3rd/4th division.

4th string are books which have no hope of selling well and are being published for reasons unknown (including all Matt's, but also perhaps because the editors like them, or as 'water-testing' projects)

3rd string are books that would be 4th string but for a real actual marketing reason to launch - a bigger name creator, or a special gimmick, or a spin off from a huge-selling event. So Shadowpact, Blue Beetle, Seven Soldiers are all 3rd string.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Just read the Superman/Batman annual from a few weeks ago, having had it recommended to me by a few people, and--it's a DEADPOOL story! I mean, seriously: that's what it is. And a very good, funny one. Joe Kelly gets around the ownership issues by having his costume colored slightly differently and not using his name (he's presented as an alternate-universe Deathstroke). But--it's a Deadpool story.

― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I told you, Huk!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Birds of Prey is probably the ultimate 3rd string DC book -- everything about it says "should have been cancelled by issue #16" but yet it has a pretty loyal audience and keeps on going.

I had fun with that Superman/Batman annual too, a friend recommended it and it was a nice way to spend 15 minutes or whatever it took to read it.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

So then, All-New Atom: 4th string copyright retention, or 3rd string due to Simone and very tenuous Morrison connection? It's definitely at least 2nd string in my heart.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say DC was basically first string (Batman, Superman and their big villains), 2nd String (the rest of the JLA and Titans) and 3rd string -- which is everybody else.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 16 November 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Also, punch me for this one: Catwoman is G-string HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say that right now, DC's first string titles are 52, Batman, Detective, Superman, Action, Justice League of America, and Green Lantern. Maybe Supergirl?

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and Batman/Superman, of course.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Certainly not an endorsement on my part of all those titles, though I do regularly buy 52, Batman, Detective and have been keeping up with both Superman titles.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Read 'em and weep!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

The sales on FLASH are gruesome, even when you're aware the book is, in fact, that awful.

PLUS:
Evidently, Loeb was a crucial sales draw.

YOWZA.

― Richard Baez (Johnny Logic), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Look @ the numbers he got when writing Batman! RESPECT.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kinda surprised that the numbers for Y and Fables are so low, comparatively.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

I suspect the trade sales are stunderful for those two. Plus, the steadiness that Fables displays - in terms of sales - strikes me as quite appealling.

― Richard Baez (Johnny Logic), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

what happened in week 12 of 52?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

Was that the 1st appearance of Batwoman?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

That looks pretty shocking, but does it add up to some sort of long-tail recoup?

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

09/2006: 52 Week 18 — 111,830 (- 4.1%)
09/2006: 52 Week 19 — 111,611 (- 0.2%)
09/2006: 52 Week 20 — 111,099 (- 0.5%)
09/2006: 52 Week 21 — 110,350 (- 0.7%)

444,890 in a month is mighty impressive.

― Richard Baez (Johnny Logic), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

for a comic w/out superman, batman, or wonder woman (but not w/out heroes).

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

I BLAME DOUGLAS AND VIC F.

― Richard Baez (Johnny Logic), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

I BLAME BOOSTER GOLD.

The interesting / cool thing, if you scroll down to the non-Big 2 sales figures: Casanova, Local, Wasteland, & Walking Dead gaining readers!

I wonder how much it costs to print up 5-10K floppies?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

Y The Last Man and Fables sell exceptionally well in trades, so it definitely evens out. I only buy Y in trades.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

52 is a smart book because it makes itself essential reading for fans of DC in general, and it visits enough corners of the universe often enough to maintain interest from different types of fans. Also, once you get deep enough into it, it discourages you from quitting because you think "oh well, I bought this many of them, I may as well see it through..."

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

WAY TO SCHEDULE BOOKS, DC.

52#27 and Omega Men #2 ship in the same week.
52 has a big space story reveal about the Stygian Passover and how "it's ahead of us. We're all that stands between it and Vega, or Earth."
Omega Men has the Stygian Passover ALREADY HAVING PRETTY MUCH DESTROYED VEGA SOME TIME BEFORE and drops big hints about what it is. And how they're possibly the ones who bring it to Earth.

Put it this way, I wouldn't be surprised if we get an Omega Men ongoing series out if this. Or they're all killed. Could go either way.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

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