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I've really liked the image of Nick Fury as seen in recent Captain America stuff (including awesome Lee Weeks Fury in Winter Soldier One Shot) and that Marvel Ultimate Alliance video game. What to read?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 7 January 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Anything involving the name "Steranko".

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 7 January 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ultimate Nick Fury >>>>>>> reg'lar Nick Fury

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 7 January 2007 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

There was a 6-issue mini from the late 80s written by Bob Harras & drawn in a sorta-Sterankoy (Steranky?) fashion by Paul Neary that seemed pretty OK - probably worth a download. At any rate, it's the biggest S.H.I.E.L.D. story that's happened in the MU over the past 20 years (that I can recall).

Vic or Tom or someone else can get all Howling Commandos on you.

Jessie is MAD.

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 7 January 2007 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Jessie. I wonder if they'll put a cyborg arm on Ultimate Fury now.

In the regular universe, there's a lot of reference to Fury being underground since he fucked up something important. What's this all about, and what titles/issues is it in?

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, Secret War. Wikipedia is handy, innit.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Jessie completely OTM.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 7 January 2007 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i love U nick fury. please to make a movie about him.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 7 January 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

done!

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/n/nickfurylive.jpg

― nu-mongrel (kit brash), Sunday, 7 January 2007 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Agh, abort! Abort!

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

It's a goddamn shame that the actual cigar-chomping Nick Fury actual pales in comparison to the motherf*cking * Samuel L. Stand-in, in all y'all's eyes. I blame Marvel's inability to involve Nick in a story of any substance for, oh, a long ass time.

BTW: the Harras / Neary mini I mentioned = Nick Fury Vs. S.H.I.E.L.D.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I agree that it's a shame, but white Fury has too much bad baggage, bad history and bad dialogue to overcome. Have they explained why he's just middle-aged even though he's a WWII vet? Wait wait, have they explained it without it being stoopid? Ultimate Fury is freed up from loads of past crap and has been well characterized as an effective badass from day one.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

The reason he's still youngish = SCIENCE! (Some special serum thing; probably related to why Captain America stil has his rugged young Redford thing going on.)

&, man, every Marvel (& DC) character from the early / mid 20th century has an assload of baggage / history / dialogue to live down. Doesn't mean you just write off thee quintessential Kirby manly man! You yahoo.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Let me add that I like the current view of Fury as a behind the scenes wild card -- what it reminds me of mainly is Mailer's Harlot's Ghost. Point taken about everybody having baggage, but Fury was a comedy foil as much as he was a serious character for 30 years, until just the last few years. I especially have issues with the bandwagon-jumping simulated James Bond stuff from Steranko and just beyond, which looks great but I think is unreadable.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

He's been on monkey glands for years.

"Ya goldbricks"

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

THAT'S what I meant. Not "yahoos."

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Ultimate guy gets better material though. I doubt if he's a better character.

Cigar-chompin. Life model decoys. Hail HYDRA!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Does Ultimo Fury have an aimless, alcoholic, wastrel suicide of a brother? Or did they ultimize him by replacing the sixer of Hamm's with crack and/or pcp?

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've always thought of Fury as basically a guest star, which he works well as. I don't think I've ever read a comic he's headlined.

― chap (chap), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

In our brave new world, a global-level spy equivalent of Gotham Central in the M.U. would be awesome, and I'm all for our Nick to be the star, as long as they forget everything he did between 1965-2000.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

I know! There were rumors of Christopher Priest actually getting another title (after his Captain America / Falcon series got canned), and I was really hoping it'd be a S.H.I.E.L.D. procedural sort of thing.

But, really - "as long as they forget everything he did between 1965-2000"????? Cut off one head and two more shall take its place, sucka!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Fine by me, as long as neither one looks like Dum Dum Dugan.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I think low blood sugar has got me all cranky.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

I like Dum Dum. Trying to remember the other Howling Commandos now - Gabe the trumpet player, and Reb (?) the Southerner are the only two that come to mind. Wasn't there a foppy guy with a Clark Gable moustache?

Anyhow, I was going to ask what was up with Dum Dum, but after seeing this cover, I have a feeling Dum Dum is the "beloved Marvel" figure refered to on the preview page blurb. Sigh.

― lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Um, I don't think you linked the right cover. Unless Wolfernie's sheathing his middle claw in tribute.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops. I read the blurb -

It all ends-and it all begins-in this issue, featuring both the death of a beloved Marvel character and the debut appearance of a new one: the son of Wolverine!

then got over-excited and thought the "death of a ..." blurb was also on the cover. I haven't read the issue.

I'm sensitized by reading Joe Q's comments re: the panel of Aunt May and Mary Jane in a rifle scope's view, and the idea that one of them might be dying soon.

― lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

One of the upcoming issues of Black Spidey features a cover w/ him riding an ambulance looking, um, black & spidery. If it's not one of them two lovely ladies, then it's gotta be Rocket Racer.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure if Joe Q's being intentionally obtuse, but what with "Women in Refrigerators" shining a spotlight on the issue, it's frustrating that female death is being used again to promote interest and/or galvanize change.

I've never felt one way or another about Aunt May, but Mary Jane's "Face it, Tiger..." is one of those handful of iconic Spider-Man panels that I'd hate to have it mentally accompanied by the image of a sheet over a gurney.

Anyway, not to derail this further, I always liked the meetings between Nick Fury and the Thing, when they smoked cigars and acted blustery.

― lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 8 January 2007 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Will Fury be the star of Slott's post-Civil War series?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 January 2007 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

I think curing Ben Grimm of rockism and making him a SHIELD agent would be cool. He knows ALL the global players, the adjustment to suddenly being physically vulnerable would be an interesting subtext, he could banter with Fury til the cows came home, and it wouldn't make sense for Fury to be the main agent in the field in a procedural series.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

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