Will You Be Countdowning?

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Well, will ya, punk?

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Option	Votes
I fifty-twoed, I might as well.	10
Is Mary Marvel a Palestinian lesbian?	6
52 wiped me out, I can no longer emotionally sustain the burden of reading a weekly comic.	1
Having been out in the cold on 52, I will vainly try to warm myself on the waning embers of novelty of Countdown.	1
Superheroes? What are you, simple?	1

― Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

WELL ARE YOU SIMPLE?

― David R., Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently, I have addicted my dumb ass to a weekly fix. I expect that as long as schmuxxx like me continue to buy weekly 'event comics,' Warner Bros. will continue to be willing to sell them to me and pay what it takes to get creators to bust their heinies to get them out every Wednesday.

In fact, if Countdown sells as well as 52, I bet Marvel has a weekly going by next summer for sure and probably by the end of the year.

― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

Schmucks like me continue to "buy" event comics.

― Leee, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I have a strange feeling that if I didn't have a weekly comic, I might not have any motivation to go the comic store and spend any money at all.
"What's that you say, the new fill-in issue of Superman is out? Oh, I'll be right down."

― Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not super-excited about the writing team, but I'll give it a shot. The pivotal "no Grant Morrison" could be a dealbreaker. At least with 52 you could be guaranteed a bit of wacko inspiration inbetween all the drossy stuff.

― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

I like the weekly thing. What can I say?

Also, as I mentioned in another thread I have a certain fondness for Jimmy Olsen, Mary Marvel, and the Fourth World.

― Mr. Perpetua, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Most definitely. What Doc says about the crucial weekliness of it all is very true for me. Morrison and Waid might be missed, but Dini seems as solid a pro as exists, and what I've read by Sean McKeever has been tons of fun. And, really, they'd be hard-pressed to have anything as bad as the Steel/Luthor storyline.

― Garrett Martin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

I hope KG tries something a bit more dynamic in his panel layouts this time. The actual composition of the panels is fine, but the pages of 52 were insanely boring (and often amateurish) to look it.

― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Nope.

― R Baez, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

BANNED

― David R., Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

IN RESPONSE TO THIS TURN OF EVENTS I PROPOSE A NEW BOARD:

ILPLANPD (I Love Palestinian Lesbians And Not Paul Dini)

― R Baez, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

BINNED

― David R., Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

Of course!.

I have an stupid fix on The Atom, love Jimmy Olsen and the New Gods and like the Flash's Rogue Gallery enough to care about the Pied Piper.

Although the lack of morrisonism is a drawback, sure.

― Amadeo, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

I honestly don't know. I'm loath to go through all that again, but if the first couple of issues inspire I might get straight back in with Jimmy Olsen's Blog or something.

― Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

Do pirates have eyepatches?

― James Morrison, Thursday, 3 May 2007 02:17 (eighteen years ago)

but the pages of 52 were insanely boring (and often amateurish) to look it.

but Giffen's actual layouts look ace on that site what posts them (Wizard's?), they just get DC-ified by no-name hacks.

(fuck buying any of this shit btw, I flicked through every third issue of 52 in the shops looking for Animal Man bits)

― energy flash gordon, Thursday, 3 May 2007 11:36 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, layouts are just a guideline - can't be helped if the folks actually drawing the pages can't follow through. Check out the panel layouts of Giffen / DeMatteis' JL, for instance - usually used 9-panel grids (IIRC), but Kevin Maguire did great work.

― David R., Thursday, 3 May 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

You know, I'm kinda glad that Morrison is NOT doing it. That guy has taken on WAAAAY too many projects in the past two years and needs to focus on finishing things he's already started for a while. 52 was eating up an enormous chunk of his time.

― Mr. Perpetua, Thursday, 3 May 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

The "TV model" seems a better one than the 52-model, but the talent involved is worse and I don't like the characters as much. Of course I'll still read it.

― Groke, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know if the talent discrepancy, writing-wise, really matters in a project like this - more often than not, 52 was a mess, possibly in part to too many cooks doing their own thing all @ the same time in a brief span of time / pages. That lead to moments of THRILL POWER, sure, but it also lead to slap like the early bits of Ralph Dibny's thread colliding w/ Luthor / Steel crap. Having 20+ artists sticking their fingers in the pie didn't help, either.

Any word on whether they're actually going to keep the writer / artist combos consistent throughout?

― David R., Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

I'm such a mump.

― David R., Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno if it'll matter that much to me-as-reader anyway: one of the things about 52 is that if I got a rub issue I didn't mind cos, well, there's another one along next week. And if I got 3 rub issues in a row (HI DERE BLACK ADAM), it was annoying but not the kiss of death it would have been for a monthly.

― Groke, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a little turned off by the house ads that connect the Joker w/ Jimmy must die. The Joker bores me silly most of the time.

― Dr. Superman, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

I feel proud to have created the Palestinian lesbian meme.

― chap, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:44 (eighteen years ago)

oh the random googlers we're courting

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:38 (eighteen years ago)

they'll better help us eat I Love Books.

― Amadeo, Friday, 4 May 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

fuck one myspace

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

http://mondocomic.blogspot.com/2007/05/comienza-la-cuenta-regresiva.html

There's the preview, freely available for all of you. The blog is in spanish, but it doesn't say anything new or radically interesting.
Cheers!.

― Amadeo, Monday, 7 May 2007 01:16 (eighteen years ago)

Sean McKeever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geoff Johns and Greg Rucka

― Mr. Perpetua, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

Purple but promising.

― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 7 May 2007 03:31 (eighteen years ago)

Kind of boring, eh? Dig the general lack of irony, though.

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

Alright, the Monitors are the stupidest looking things EVER. They retroactively destroy whatever enjoyment I've ever gotten from a George Perez drawing.

― Garrett Martin, Thursday, 10 May 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

Monitor = http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Tharg_the_mighty.png + http://www.goalflashers.com/gossip/spitting_image/john_mccririck.jpg

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 10 May 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

First issue: oh dear. I made some notes on it. (Scroll down a bit past the food chatter.)

― Douglas, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

I agree! Fairly well-written, but an incredible non-starter for a first issue. And I'm already thinking, "Oh dear, no the multiverse again." Can't DC knock around and have a bit of fun with the multiverse concept before they get all "Worlds Will Die!" on it again?

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

RE: DOUGLAS' NOTES ON "COUNTDOWN":

I'm astonished no-one made a Gob reference sooner.

― R Baez, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

I still haven't got my comics this week (countdown not as incentive-y to get off my ass as 52 was), but, um, the whole first issue is on myspace as well as the first half of the second issue.
And the DC Nation has a myspace and there's a comment that reads: Thanks for the add, i really enjoying the books you put out so keep them coming.
Which is, whatever, UNTIL you notice that the poster of that comment is BIZARRO!!!

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 11 May 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

It was OK! Nothing spectacular, tho I'm always a sucker for SOURCE WALL WRITING. And, yes, Monitors with guns.

― David R., Friday, 11 May 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

I am hoping for a Monitor w/ the Osborn haircut.

― David R., Friday, 11 May 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

Super Dave Osborn?

― Dr. Superman, Saturday, 12 May 2007 05:05 (eighteen years ago)

I kinda liked Countdown until I read DW's blog.

― Dr. Superman, Saturday, 12 May 2007 05:20 (eighteen years ago)

Silver Bullets Comic Books picks now to get pissy about racial purity of DCU?

― Dr. Superman, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

SHAME ON ME

― Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

That was freaking exhausting, and I more or less gave up at the end.

― Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

CURRENT!

― Dr. Superman, Saturday, 19 May 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

WHO'S BAD?

― Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 23:31 (eighteen years ago)

Crossposted:

OH COME THE FUCK ON! BLACK ADAM ALREADY?

Why are they trying so hard to make me drop Countdown when it's only three issues in?

― Mr. Perpetua, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

Haven't even gone to pick up my comics today.

Now that 52 is over my life feels empty.

― Douglas, Thursday, 24 May 2007 01:16 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I was thinking it was still bad, but better, until the "big reveal". And then that back-up story... cripes.

Next week should be the McKeever issue, right? Maybe I'll just pick this up every fourth week.

― Garrett Martin, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

Haven't even gone to pick up my comics today. Now that 52 is over my life feels empty.

One sadface for the road :-(

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 24 May 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

Why would anyone think that bringing back Black Adam a month after World War III is a good idea? I mean, even if you LOVE Black Adam, shouldn't you want a break after all that?

I don't get why DC is trying so hard to sell us on Black Adam being one of the company's go-to Big Bads.

― Mr. Perpetua, Thursday, 24 May 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

I think he's an okay character, actually! He seems to fill a space (non-cosmic, non-Luthor big bad) that's not otherwise taken up in the DCU. That said, bringing him back again so soon is a trifle desperate.

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 24 May 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

It's not really Black Adam, I'm sure.

― Dr. Superman, Thursday, 24 May 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

Off-White Jonah?

― David R., Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Ebon Job?

― David R., Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Midnight Methuselah?

(I'm totally stealing that from myself for something I'll never write.)

― David R., Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

David, you really must.

― Mr. Perpetua, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

Jet Ham

― Dr. Superman, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:23 (eighteen years ago)

I'm, um, actually not minding it so much. Even if it's a mess, it seems to be a more cohesive mess than 52 (tho there probably aren't the underlying thematic connections that flowed throughout 52). Also, I'm fine w/ WTF BLACK ADAM showing up because 1) the violence was kept off-camera and 2) Geoff Johns isn't writing him.

However - DAN JURGENS back-ups AGAIN? Followed by SCOTT BEATTY? Hht.

― David R., Friday, 25 May 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

But don't worry - I'll bitch about this series in a month's time.

― David R., Friday, 25 May 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Huh -- that issue of Countdown actually wasn't actually so bad. I like that "severed legs" = oh rite it's black adam.

― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Dear Ctdn -

Please stop sucking

Thxkbye

― Oilyrags, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

Making fun of Countdown no longer hip

― Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 04:30 (seventeen years ago)

Some things never get old, Dr. Supes.

― Matt M., Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

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