scott lobdell: c or d?

guess not...sorry scott

I can't even tell you if I've read anything by him. He's one of those writers with a vaguely familiar name, but nothing more sticks in my mind. Is he an old X-writer/Marvel hack or something?

Yeah, I only know him for his fairly long 90s Uncanny X-Men run, much of which is hard to make out between all the editorially-imposed crossovers, etc. I think this is a sort of underrated period for the X-Men; Lobdell did some awful stories (the infamous "battle over the 90-foot waterfall on the lower Mississippi") but also made a valiant effort to clear away things from the Claremont eons that weren't working any more, get some fresh 90s flava into the books. In hindsight a lot of those instincts were really off base, but he deserves more credit than he got at the time (when he was unfairly compared to the saintly, do-no-wrong Claremont). If the X-Men had to change from an institution to just another book with writers passing the torch every few years, Lobdell fits decently into the pantheon.

Generation X with Chris Bachalo was, for a while, one of my favorite books, up through issue 25 or so it manages to keep this team of all-new characters plausible, interesting, and beautifully-drawn. In many ways an equal and legitimate successor to New Mutants and certainly better than anything the current new/young/junior X-Men title has managed to do so far.

Reading back over that it seems a little too charitable - a lot of those storylines are overwrought, melodramatic nonsense. So, who knows...

Worth noting that last week's X-Men Legacy #1 is basically a complete retread of Uncanny 309, also featuring John Romita, Jr. on art.

lobdell was bad but not nearly as bad as fandom makes him out to be; several of the story gaffes attributed to him were actually committed by Waid

<i>lobdell was bad but not nearly as bad as fandom makes him out to be; several of the story gaffes attributed to him were actually committed by Waid</i>

Um, he had a couple years of at-best mediocrity before Waid hopped on board. Blame Claremont, blame Bob Harras, blame Image, but SL needs to take some hits, too.

Tho, like Dr. Cas mentions, the first 2 years of Generation X are great. RIP Chris Bachalo ;_;

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What part of "lobdell was bad" made you think I was absolving him of all storytelling crimes, Daver?

(Or are you just playing Cap'n-Save-a-Wholly-Overrated-Writer?)

I'm just saying he WAS as bad as people thought (gaffes or no gaffes). And, yes, I'm playing Save-A-Waid because I'm going to become his bestest friend ever.

WUV

I never actually was much of a fan of the 90s X-Men (tho I luvvvved X-Force, eeven after Liefeld left, and have a soft spot in my heart for Fabian Nicieza) Most of my Lobdell hate was activated after he wilfully ruined Alpha Flight (see: Vol. 3...grrrr)

I liked that Lobdell attempted to do something, even if half the time it was something egregiously stupid. I think there was a year where he did very well juggling a series of rotating subplots but then he seemed to go "OH WAIT WHAT IF *insert horrifying plot idea here* HAPPENED WAU KEWL"

Then Waid showed up and had Cannonball sulking in trees.

yeah, I had read that some of his X-Men stuff wasn't half-bad, though I read a scathing indictment about the whole plotline where he killed Colossus in order to cure the Legacy Virus which thoroughly convinced me he was a hack (I had stopped reading by that point)...and of course he didn't ruin Alpha Flight, it had been ruined long before, though I felt Steven Seagle had made some strides towards saving the book. It just struck me as very galling that Scott could write off Seagle's AF books as stale ripoffs of X-Files plots and then go and turn AF into some repository for his failed standup comedy routine.

but it doesn't matter bcz the new Guardian or whoever he is killed off one of my favourite characters, Heather Hudson... :(

waht