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I know calling something a "gay comic" may be unnecessary pigeonholing, but anyway, what are you're favourite gay-themed comics? My absolute favourite must be Ralf König, but I think besides a few odd titles his work isn't available in English, which is a sad, sad, sad thing. I also like Alison Bechdel and Howard Cruse.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

ALPHA FLIGHT #106!!!!!!!!

(ok perhaps not. I wish I still had a copy though, it's genuinely extraordinary.)

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

What happens there?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Anything not written by Garth Ennis.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Agreed!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

AF 106 was where Northstar "comes out". It has one of the most extraordinary mismatches of script and art ever seen - a real indictment (or recommendation!) of the Marvel Method. Fabian Nicieza (I think) turns in a mealy-mouthed Claremontian script full of agonised dialogue and worthy standpoints as befits a Big Issue like Being Gay. The art is then done by a particularly inept Liefeld disciple who draws tinier heads and vaster muscles than even the Robster himself. Of course the artist ignored the plot entirely having been given his golden chance to draw a fucking monster fight. The script stood its ground so all this furrowed-brow stuff happens as Northstar and (ahem) Major Maple Leaf bash each other about.

The two golden moments -

1) Northstar gives a huge speech about tolerance and privacy which concludes something like "though it is no business of yours - I - AM - GAY!". The words "I - AM - GAY!" in megabold fill the only speech bubble of a panel showing him smashing Major Maple Leaf through a wall with a particularly horrible Liefeld grimace. I am sure this must be on the net somewhere.

2) The closing panels where a tiny baby (who I think is an HIV ORPHAN omg do you see etc.) is being cradled by Northstar, drawn by an artist who cannot draw hands, or babies, and certainly doesn't know how big one is in relation to the other.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

OK I think the wall smash panel comes after this -

http://www.cassero.it/luo/011/img/alphaplight.jpg

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The cover of this masterpiece:

http://www.rambunctious.org/images/alpha_flight106.jpg

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, what Tom said. I think the artist is Pat Broderick! A recent issue of Uncanny X-Men dealt w/ Northstar's lifestyle choice, & it is supposedly readable (in a restrained sense) - I don't trust it, though.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

If Northstar's gay, why do I recall him flirting with Rogue in some ancient issue of X-Men?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

HA the plot thickens! There was lots of confusion over whether Northstar was gay or bi or not or what. So in that X-Men there's lots of stuff where Rogue goes oh I cannot touch and Northstar goes all "YES I TOO know what it is like not to be allowed to love but I can say no more".

The most outrageous use of the gay-or-not thing involved a 'story arc' in Alpha Flight in which Northstar had 'a mysterious wasting disease', was coughing a lot, very weak, hollow cheeked*, saying his teammates could do nothing for him and so on. WHAT COULD THIS DISEASE BE? All would be revealed in a double sized issue where it turned out that Northstar's mother was AN ELF and that Northstar had been away from Asgard too long. Yes of course how foolish of the readers not to guess! Apparently the plot had been changed at the last minute on Jim Shooter's say-so, though I can't imagine what the original storyline would have been.

*(coughing and hollow cheeks = AIDS in 90s mainstream comics as surely as a female character being sick = pregnancy).

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Must be God's way of punishing those elves. I mean, POINTY EARS?!

― Leee Majors (Leee), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Character-wise: Colossus in the Ultimate X-Men line has a crush on Wolverine, though I'm not sure they've explicitly stated his preference. It adds depth to a bland superhero (who's now deceased, in the regular Marvel universe).

Sandman had a handful of gay characters - can't remember the issue #, but the one where the woman goes to her transvestite's friend's funeral was touching.

― Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Dammit, I thought if I'd started a gay comics thread, that would get you talking on something else than superheroes. Apparently not...

By the way Chris, the character in Sandman was a transsexual, not a transvestite. And that don't necessarily mean she's gay (I guess not, because she was talking about hot guys).

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"themed" Naughty Bits by Roberta Gregory, Lilianne by Leanne Franson, Dyke's delight occassional by Kate Charlesworth, stuff by Jeremy Dennis

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Continuing w/the X-men there's a couple of dykes (one's Nightcrawler's sister or something) in that eXiles (?) thing, some "what if they lived on somewhere else" thing from the brief looks I've had at it.

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 13 February 2004 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

Current favourite gay comics: "The Cavalcade of Boys" and "Young Bottoms in Love" by Tim Fish -highly recommended.

http://www.timfishworks.com

― RR (restandrec), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

a NUMBER OF THE SCOTT CAMPBELL GEN 13 ISSUES WHERE RAINMAKER IS CONSTANTLY OGLING AT HER FEMALE TEAMMATES, HILARIOUS TOUNGE IN CHEEK HUMOR

― TINTEDOILS, Monday, 26 April 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Tuomas, the sidebar menu on that König site is really, uh, upsetting.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 2 May 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

Is anyone familiar with Boy Trouble? sexy-nerdy-"alt" stuff.

http://www.greencandypress.com/newindex.html#boytrouble

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

I like Samuel Delany's graphic novel about meeting his hobo boyfriend.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

I went on about some GAY TRUCKERS IN HEAT / LOVE thing I found on the web a while back - Gasoline Alley-looking rednecks espousing their "lol @ fagtog" talk while teabagging & taking it up the ass.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

yo http://www.xmag.com/truckerfags/index.html

― A B C (sparklecock), Friday, 2 February 2007 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

Samuel Delany's graphic novel about meeting his hobo boyfriend.

man, ysi

― tom west (thomp), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:04 (nineteen years ago)

btw, "Young Bottoms in Love" mentioned above has a compilation book due in the spring.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2007 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

If Northstar's gay, why do I recall him flirting with Rogue in some ancient issue of X-Men?

-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...) (webmail), February 10th, 2004 10:16 AM. (Tuomas) (link)

Come on rogue is the perfect beard

― UART variations (ex machina), Saturday, 3 February 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

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