Best Evil or Ambiguous Counterparts

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From the Manbat thread

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.bag-man.blogger.com.br/Sinestro_e_Patolno.jpg

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

(warning: do not do a img srch for "bizarro" at work)

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://members.aol.com/negaduck9/smugbtn.jpg http://www.sullivanet.com/miscart/negaduckart.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

haha

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2003/sep24/bizarrosinlove.jpg

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Ack!
http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2003/sep24/bizarrokrypto.jpg

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Does that imply that the non-Bizarro Supermutt is actually hateful and evil?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Bizarro-logic is terribly inconsistent (which am actually consistent with Bizarro-logic).

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Definitely Sinestro, although The Killing Joke sets the Joker up as Batman's counterpart along a different axis than Manbat is (but for all that I love that comic, I don't think the bulk of Joker appearances portrayed him that way at all).

Red Skull, you DC chauvinists!

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Doc Ock vs. Venom?

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Sabretooth!

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Rogue should have an evil counterpart that can't keep him/herself from touching everybody.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.governor.ca.gov/govsite/images/gov_AS.jpg

(tooeasy)

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.celebritybattles.com/celeb_pics/LucyVanPelt.gif

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Mmf, I don't know who's good for Spidey. Doc Ock and Venom both have things going for them, but I keep thinking Spidey's counterpart should be an irresponsible supervillain (well, a supervillain who doesn't care about responsibility, anyway, and depending on who's writing, Venom often does) who got their powers deliberately. I'm not sure why I can't think of anyone meeting that description, though. Geez, Black Cat in a way, at some points in her history.

Sub-thread: Great superheroes who don't have great counterparts? Black Panther maybe, and pre-PAD Hulk (in PAD's run, the Leader became a good character), Wolverine unless we count Sabertooth as his Sinestro ...

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Not that he's a great superhero, but take Cyclops for ex. Should his counterpart be a real cyclops? Or just regular guys who go around looking at stuff without blowing it up? Or perhaps a villain who can absorb energy with his eyes while simultaneously lazing about irresponsibly and standing up to his girlfriend?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.super3.net/imgserie/tintin.jpg http://www.tintinmilou.free.fr/characters/images/rastapopoulos.jpg

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Green Arrow's only significant villain is Count Vertigo, who's sort of a balance in that his deal is that he makes people dizzy and you can't aim when without a sense of direction.
He also has a really awesome costume (looked esp. great in the 1983 Trevor Von Eeden pencilled miniseries).

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Is "Fdjrk" Finnish for "Egads!"?

― Huck, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I think that's from the original Belgian edition, but if I remember correctly the Finnish translater left "FDRJK" to stay as it was.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

First Gargoyles, now Darkwing Duck? I feel like I'm 16 again.

― The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

No one has mentioned Professor Zoom, the Reverse-Flash! (Unless it's one of the pics that isn't loading.) I guess Thor's evil counterpart would probably be Ulik, who was always dead dull, unless we are slightly more imaginative and accept Loki for the role. Also The Frightful Four should be mentioned, as they were specifically designed in that way.

Does Donald Duck's cousin Gladstone count in this? I think he does.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/juddeth.jpg

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Martin, Gladstone is a great candidate, since he is as lucky as Donald is unlucky.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Martin, I did mention Reverse-Flash, and made mention that he was the least-subtle example of this, in my post on the Manbat thread that inspired this one. I also suggested the Turtle.
Because there's nothing really reverse about the Reverse-Flash, except that his costume reverse's Flash's costume's colours, but so did Kid Flash's. It's not like he ran backwards, or made everybody else speed up.

― Huck, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Huck, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnny Quick!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Donald Duck's cousin Gladstone count in this? I think he does.

another great candidate: Scrooge McDuck's evil 'double' from Africa, Flintheart Glomgold.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, I was actually trying to dredge that character up from the haziest of memories.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.fast-rewind.com/supermaniii3.jpg

― Huck, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Philip Alderman (Phil A), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Would people cry if I said SPIDER-CLONE?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Could you be a little more ambiguous, please?

The perfect yang to Spidey's yin (agile, swift, quick-witted) would be The Blob (self-explanatory).

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.planet-megaman.com/mm3/images/BizarroYellowLantern4.gif

― Huck, Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we get some kind of synopsis of the story that panel of greatness comes from?

Also, wouldn't Reverse Aquaman be able to talk to anything that wasn't a fish? They'd be able to have a great war between sea and everything that wasn't sea - and Aquaman would turn the tide by calling on strange four-legged space fish that walked around on land, but were still fish, and using them as fifth columnists within Reverse Aquaman's ultra army of the land and air!

― Vic Fluro, Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't tell you any specifics about the story, but here's what I've deduced:

Yellow Lantern, the Bizarro Green Lantern, has no courage, just as Hal Jordan has no fear. That makes him a big hero in Bizarro World, since he doesn't do anything except run away. Bizarro Amazo, most likely, gives people superpowers, as Amazo duplicates superpowers.

So Bizarro Aquaman...I think the less-defined his powers are, the funnier the above panel is.

― Huck, Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

As someone who cannot swim or talk to fishes, can I claim to be the reverse Aquaman?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps Seaguy is Bizarro-Aquaman. Also, what would happen if Hal Jordan and Matt Murdock were playing chicken?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

You need to eat a lot of fish to be Reverse Aquaman.

― Vic Fluro, Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

If Martin gets to be Reverse-Aquaman, I want to be Anti-Hawkman, as I can neither fly, nor talk to birds.

― Huck, Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

We have the best threads, you know.

(My contributions are slim lately, which is why I feel I can point this out.)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

You need to eat a lot of fish to be Reverse Aquaman.

I think I'd better take this over then, or I could specialize and be Reverse Mahimahiman or Reverse Crawfishman.

Actually, what does Aquaman eat if not fish? You never see him slinking up on land to take down a cow rather than eat his cousins from the sea.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Kelp. I saw it in a Hostess Fruit Pie ad.

― Huck, Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Though, y'know, most fish eat fish.

― Huck, Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I eat a fair number of fish fingers.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Are those like fish sticks? Do they involve a microwave?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Reverse Aquaman is exactly what's needed in comics. He should be a horse from space.

― Vic Fluro, Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they are like fish sticks - long rectilinear shapes of reconstituted cod in breadcrumbs. I grill them.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The opposite of the Blob is the Juggernaut. Surely everybody knows that.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

JIMBO DA MIGHTY LOBSTER

― Angus Von Santana, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

― Angus Von Santana, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Following some banter with Luna on ILE, I am a 45 year old male seeking a reverse-Wonder Woman: she would be helpful when bound by a man...

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Man-Spider!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/oddball/

― Huck, Friday, 3 September 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

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