Well, we tend to drift so much that this is probably best.
Item 1: The Bendis talks about Paul Levitz nixing Daredevil/Batman because of dislike for Quesada. DC offers weak spin.
Item 2: amdist a bunch of Avengers stuff that goes over my head because I'm not reading the title, this caught my eye and it was colored with awesome:
New Avengers #1 – Characters were in shadow on the front cover but recognizable characters were Captain America, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine, and the Jessica Drew Spider-Woman in her classic costume. There was a character in the back who looked like he was Black Knight, but was obscured. All were in shadow and there was a lightning strike in the back.
I'm iffy on Wolverine there, but I hope with Spidey and Wolverine there's some kind "remember that time when we were the Fantastic Four?" comment. It's mostly the other four who make me happy; Black Knight I'm neutral on, because it's depended so much on who writes him. (I loved him in the Stern days.)
I have no idea who's writing New Avengers, if it's Bendis or what, but some of y'all probably do.
― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 14 August 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 14 August 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 14 August 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)
That said, I'd like to see Ed Brubaker's take on those characters. But I'm interested in just about any of his takes on characters.
The vast majority of the Wildstorm stuff fails to impress (but for the ABC line). Unsure on the IPC books. Don't know the characters and don't know who's actually involved with it. Until I see more, I reserve the right to be cautious.
All the Avengers stuff is pretty yawn-inducing on my end.
Yes, I'm notoriously difficult to please...
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 14 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vic Fluro, Saturday, 14 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)
As far as the Bendis announcement ... I don't know how to characterize it. I'm never really sure where to set the bar for professionalism in the comics industry, and Quesada -- in both good ways and bad -- has certainly lowered it in the past. (By "professionalism" here, I think I really mean "professional public conduct," since that's all I can really gauge.)
But Quesada wasn't the target here, Levitz was; it'd be one thing to call Quesada out on something, because I don't think he'd take it too badly and he wouldn't be stepping out of his public persona to respond in kind. cf "U-Decide" etc. -- he's definitely the Oscar of this pair. If the tables had been switched here, and Bendis was talking about Quesada nixing a book because of not liking Levitz, I don't think there'd be an issue.
I think you do have to see this as different from a run of the mill project cancellation, though, when both sides apparently agree that it was done because of a personal dislike for someone who wouldn't have any hands on it. That's an issue that goes way beyond one project -- if that's really Levitz's (and Wayne's) position, it affects any future DC-Marvel projects, too.
― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 14 August 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)
The fact that the book was killed simply because of one guy's distaste of another exemplifies the sort of short-sighted thinking that's neutered the industry in recent years, and while it's a bit Barnumy for Bendis (& Wayne) to release this story in such a showy manner, it's an efficient way to garner buzz & get some discussion started. If it stopped Quesada (& Bendis) (& Millar) (& whomever) from taking pot shots @ DC & exacerbating the dipshitty Marvel Zombie / DC Stiff divide, super bonus.
Also, in response to Matt calling Bendis a large-scale fanboy - when in Rome, it don't do any good to speak French.
― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 14 August 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
Though Tep might be right in that what's taken as professional in comics ain't the same as what's taken as professional in say, real estate. Which is what attracts a lot of folks to the comics biz in the first place.
And if we're taking this to a discussion as to the condition of the industry and the big two within it, we're gonna need a bigger thread (as Roy Scheider once sagely stated...)
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Sunday, 15 August 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 16 August 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)
(Mostly I skim the headlines: "Steranko Still Mad," "Michael Turner Protege Delays New Issue," or "Straczynski Protege Once Again Female And Half His Age" is usually news I can handle unelaborated.)
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)
CBR's probably slammed with people trying to get the secret dirt on Chicago from Rich Johnston.
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)