This is the thread where you help meee sort out Chuck Austen and Chuck Dixon

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I can't count how many times I've mixed up the two together.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Austen, universally hated; Dixon, mostly Batstuff.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Can you formulate a clever mnemonic by which I can remember this information?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Dixon's aborted CrossGen series (_American Power_) earned CD some CA-level ire, though.

Also, CD created the awful awful city of BLUDHAVEN. With an umlaut over the U! Poor Nightwing.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck the Chucks.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Except for Chuck Jones!

Huk-L, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

How about this for a mnenomic: CA T&A; CD WMD?

xpost - score one for Jordan.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I spelled "mnenmmenemnemenenonmemic" wrong up thar.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Ehh... Austen was the guy who invented Austen, Texas and Dixon... invented half of the Mason-Dixon line.

[hanging head] Yeah, I don't know who they are.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Dixon also hates the gay, which has made him quite a few non friends.

They can both be passed by without missing much...

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Prove that he hates the gay.

Prove that he hates.

Inferring hatred from politics is one thing, but it's also a dumb thing to do.

I know his politics. Prove that his politics are caused by hate.

Christopher J. Arndt, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Pardon my flipness, Christopher.

My impression is that Chuck Dixon strongly dislikes the gay and he has said that children shouldn't read about it in comics (which he does so in the following link.)

http://www.gayleague.com/forums/display.php?id=188

As for proving his politics are caused by hate, I can only go by what he's said (as in the above.)

Of course he's also said that he has "no problems with gay or lesbian characters portrayed in a mature manner" but has lashed out at authors like Greg Rucka and Ed Brubaker who have done exactly that (though I cannot find a direct quote to that effect, so it's hearsay and not admittable in a court of law.)

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Thursday, 9 September 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

AN UMLAUT?

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 9 September 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

From the CNN Crossfire transcript of Stan Lee and Andrea Lafferty of the Traditional Values Coalition

LAFFERTY: But the point I want to make is that who's writing this stuff? The same guy who's bringing us Howard Stern.

Huk-L, Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

LEE: This isn't political. Years ago, I did a book called "Sergeant Fury and His Howling Commandos." His platoon
consisted of a Jewish fellow named Izzy Cohen, an Italian named Deno Minelli, a black named Gabriel Jones,
and so forth.

Now, it wasn't -- we weren't making a political statement, and nobody ran out after buying the book and decided
I'm going to become Jewish or I'm going to become Italian. People read it. They enjoyed it. That was it.

Huk-L, Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought that was you claiming credit for Sgt Fury for a minute there, Huk.

Vic Fluro, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, well, hmmmm.

Huk-L, Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
He "lashed out" at Brubaker and Rucka (primarily Rucka) I assumed because they took an old character and pretty much changed it in quite a massive, unneccessary, and really HUGE change.

Quite frankly it also might have something to do with the fact their choice for a gay character was also one that he had the largest hand in developing so far. Paul Dini and Bruce Timm might have created Monotoya but Dixon fleshed her out the most within the comics.

That really is neither here nor there.

I read his original statements in the original context. Basically it's a family values decision regarding how he wants his kids exposed to certain elements when they'll be exposed. He didn't care for the Green Lantern thing because all-ages entertainment was turned into mature readers entertainment (and yes: mature readers entertainment... a less-than-mature reader could pull a lot of things out of those comics that even Judd Winnick never intended).

My gosh... that article is horrible... those words are out of context.

"Rawhide Kid" was exploitational trash.

But even if he did say all those words, it's offensive and unreasonable to assume that what offends you is hateful. Hatred is one of the most charged motives you can assign to someone... and it's the one that MOST OF ALL YOU CAN'T SEE. Trust me, if I hated gay people you'd never know it; on the other hand, while never hating homosexuals I've been called a "hateful" $$%# just because of my own politics.

Christopher J. Arndt, Monday, 11 October 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Neither of them can draw, though Austen does.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 16 October 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm totally going to become italian.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 16 October 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Austen used to be able to draw, in the '80s. Haven't seen anything since.

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 17 October 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

He drew a War Machine 12-ish series a couple of years ago. Avoid at all cost.

iodine (iodine), Monday, 17 October 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

so that chris arndt guy was a big ol hateful bigot huh?

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 17 October 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

Prove that he's a bigot.

Prove that he hates.

He seems to be saying that if he hated gays he wouldn't say he hates gays and you wouldn't know about it, but since he says he hates the gays he must not really hate the gays. Or something.

Anyway, comics! Yay!

chap who would dare to violate the least amount of laws of physics (chap), Monday, 17 October 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

Fairchild had boobs.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

Also: Rawhide Kid wasn't exploitative trash; it was puerile innuendo-ridden slapstick fnar fnar abetted by gorgeous art that I hoped earned the artist some nice Marvel buxx.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 17 October 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

Fairchild had boobs.

Yes. Yes, she did.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 17 October 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)


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