"Personal prejudice: Hispanic and Latino women with blond hair look like hookers to me, no matter how clean or 'cute' they are. Somehow those skin tones that look so good with dark, dark hair just don't work for me with lighter shades. Like I said -- personal prejudice."
Heidi McDonald's THE BEAT! has the photo (here). See? Link!
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)
I think Jessica stole Mr. Fantastic's arched eyebrow, which Mr. Spock should've copyrighted stardates ago.
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)
Why is "cute" in quotes but not "clean"?
― Huk-L, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)
I can't believe they have photos already, didn't they just cast this a couple weeks ago? The summer went by FAST.
Anyway, so far this definitely looks better than the Corman version. I'm less concerned about how Sue looks than how the Thing and the Torch will look in motion. Now that the wheels are in motion, I can't say "Well, if they can't do it right, they won't do it" anymore.
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)
FYI - a recent episode of _The Venture Brothers_ (a kewl Adult Swim homage to Johnny Quest & related chicanery) recently featured some FF-like folks as antagonists. Look alive, true believers!
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm not worried about script reviews, though -- especially with a movie like this, where the script rapidly becomes a suggestion. My copy of the Batman script has Knox comically clonking the Joker out cold with a baseball bat.
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)
It's how much of the 'old college nemesis' Doom Origin they can get away with in a 2hr movie. Just establishing him as an evil scientist whose face gets accidentally burnt off by Reed would do it.
― Vic Fluro, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)
That's probably one of the fundamental challenges of lots of superhero movies, though -- making room for both the superhero origin and the villain origin while still having time for a story.
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/encyclopedie.univers.marvel/Rubriques/Etat%20civil/The%20Mole%20Man_1.gif
― Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)
You know, if money were no object or special effects could do more than I think they can, or ... something ... I'd say Galactus. What if the cosmic rays were "exhaust radiation" from his ship as he enters Earth's solar system? That seems like a pretty harmless way of introducing heroes and villain at the same time, although a lot of mystery would remain about who and what Galactus actually is.
(It would make for a very science fictiony superhero movie, but that's bound to be the case anyway, right?)
Still, Galactus is a pretty hard act to follow, sequel-wise.
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)
(Except for The Hulk.)
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)
As far as the final product ... some good stuff (especially if you decide to see it as a remake of the TV show instead of the comic), some odd stuff, but the special effects and the essential personality-lessness (personalityless-ness? personal Les Nesman?) of the Hulk himself tanked it for me. The special effects I can forgive -- I mean, what're you gonna do, there's always an element of luck there -- but I really need a Banner/Hulk situation where you've got warring personalities, like (but preferably not perfectly mapped to) Jekyl/Hyde -- not a conflict between a personality and a null, which is what we get in the movie and (maybe slightly less so) the Bixby show.
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)
(Very tangentially: Shyamalan's post-Sense movies have hit me the same way. Unbreakable is a solid first act. Signs is like the first few chapters of a Larry Niven novel. The Village -- I actually have fewer structural issues with The Village than the other two, and it's still recent enough that I don't like to spoil it. But it often feels like he's structuring novels, and then when he gets to the point where he's going to run out of film, he just stops. It's especially weird since Sixth Sense is almost flawlessly structured.)
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)
Living armor? I hope I read that wrong.
And yes, Fanboy Rampage is good for hours of amusement on a daily basis.
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)
I forgot all about the uproar over Morrison's comment. Jesus, that was inane.
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)
(xpost; entitlement is a good word for it, I'm guilty of that myself)
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)
* - However, it's possible that I'm a Grant Morrison fanboy...
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)
This appears to be what happens in Ultimate Fantastic Four, by the way (except they haven't gone into space but some other-dimensional thingie).
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)
ihttp://superherohype.com/gallery/Fantastic_Four/The_Movie/Movie_Stills/thing.jpg
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/f41.jpg
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, the soundtrack should have theremins in it.
― Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, some trumpet fanfares are U&K in this PopArt FF flick.
The Red Ghost would be an AWFUL villain for a movie, though. Which, of course, would make him perfect for this project.
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
That episode of The Venture Brothers was hilarious -- the movie probably won't even be half as good.
― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)
I kinda wish Patrick Warburton was the Thing, now that I think about it. Or Mr. Fantastic! OR DOOM!
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 23 September 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
And I have to apologize to Baffleck and Daredevil - if you chop off that overlong origin sequence (and mmmmmmmaybe the park-bench sparring scene), it's a servicable flick.
― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 10 July 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 10 July 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 10 July 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)
I thought Chiklis was going to suck, but he actually turned out to be pretty good. Chris Evans was good too, but the rest of the cast was kind of meh. I like Julian McMahon in Nip/Tuck, but he was a little disapointing as Dr. Doom.
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 July 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)
It's also kinda funny that so many folks are pissing on this movie (according to the Rotten Tomatoes meter - 29% and rising?) in light of other Marvel franchises, as the FF was the one that started it all - in a sense, it was the first one out of the box, and They Who Created It probably learned from their mistakes going forward. The fact that the origin story of the FF needs to be severely rejiggered to seem more plausable to an modern-day audience, while Spidey's origin can be moved from the book to the screen w/ very little changed, says a lot.
Also, to some extent, the FF were often cyphers in their own stories, serving as a quaint blue backdrop so KirbyCo could go buckwild w/ ideas like Galactus & the Inhumans & the Negative Zone, so that probably has something to do w/ the airyness of this flick as well.
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 11 July 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)
I think the thing that irritated me so much about Reed's character is that I knew so many people like that from college, most of whom deserved shaking.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)
I was partial to the shaving cream montage, tho I will admit that the first scene w/ the Thing (meeting his wife / fiancee in the shadows) choked me up a bit. Even that oh-come-on-now part on the bridge got me. (These damn superhero flix make me all emo.)
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)
One of my friends said that Jessica Alba should have gotten acting powers rather than invisibility powers. It was a little unfair but kind of true. Still, SHE WAS AWESOME esp. when flustered/angry.
I was too busy wondering "Who runs out into a city street in a little nightie?!?!?" to be choked up.
OTM!!! That scene caused supermegaROFFLES for us.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
I think if they'd done exactly the same movie as a 2-D cartoon, it would've rocked.
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 24 July 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)
http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Critic_Review/Guardian_review/0,4267,1533423,00.html
― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Sunday, 24 July 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)
― Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 28 July 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)
― Vic Fluro, Thursday, 28 July 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)
― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Thursday, 28 July 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)
Also, I kept thinking if they'd moved Latveria to Africa and cast Daniel Dumile, not only would the indie rap geek in me be happy, but it might have made for a better flick.
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 28 July 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)
― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 29 July 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)
― Vic Fluro, Saturday, 30 July 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)
― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Saturday, 30 July 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)
Some comicsy stuff:
http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2005_07_01_wedge_archive.html#112281494765100611
― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 31 July 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)
Silver Surfer - Norrin Radd
Rad! Dude! D'oh!
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)
I hope they don't address this at all and just have Sue be invisible for the duration of the second film. Like maybe have animating bra & panties. Oh yeah.
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)
in which Alba reveals that there will be a love triangle btwn Sue, Reed and the Silver Surfer, so this'll be a Galactus movie.
but…it should be btwn Namor, Sue and Reed. If SS is in a triangle, it should be between him, Thing and Alicia.
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)
― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)
― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)
Wha-a-a-a-a-a-t a revoltin' development!
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)
― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)
and it'll be called "Every Thing Is Illuminated"
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)
― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)
― c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)
― Leee, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 22:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr. Superman, Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:25 (nineteen years ago)