Are Golden Age Comics Actually Any Good?

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Tom (Groke), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Generally, no. Sometimes they're really fun though. Like you get to see Bruce Wayne puffing on a cigarette, or Superman knocking the tar out of someone, or Wonder Woman teaching an extra-dimensional society that some forms of bdsm are rad.

Huk-L, Friday, 24 September 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah the image I have always had of them is of stories with no grasp of plotting or concern for the reader's intelligence and stuffed with cynicism and violence. Obviously this sounds grebt but on the other hand the pacing is (in my mind) all rotten too.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(all of the elements I mentioned are in: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0310/02/wcth.jpg )

Huk-L, Friday, 24 September 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, what I've read has been for "historical interest" or vague amusement only, really. Some of it's pretty decent, but I'm not sure it's "pretty decent" enough to be worth tracking down, especially since the reprints tend to be unreasonably expensive.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been picking up the Crisis on Multiple Earths series of reprints. It's Silver Age, packaging all the team-ups between the JLA and JSA, but the plotting, pacing, etc, is just awful. For this reason, I have abandonned my plans to start buying those outrageously expensive DC Archives.

Huk-L, Friday, 24 September 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Few of them are much good, especially the big name sruff - Bats, Supes, WW, JSA. Some have nice art (early Toth, for instance) and completely lame stories. I do really like the Jack Cole Plastic Mans, but haven't been prepared to pay fortunes for the Archives - I want a cheap Essential style package! The early Spirit stories are similar, and easier to get at tolerable prices in reprint. The '40s Kirby I've seen is fun, but nowhere near his '60s or '70s work.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually read a li'l bit of a Timely Sub-Mariner comic a few days ago, and boy oh boy was it lacking in a certain something. Lemme show ya:

The one story that sticks in my mind - ALL THE WATER FROM THE EARTH IS DISAPPEARING INTO SPACE! Sub-Mariner, being the cranky bastard he is, is slightly miffed because everyone thinks he did it. (He's discussing this for a few panels w/ his fetching lady friend while wearing an orange sweater, BTW.) So, he travels to the Moon by busting a hole in a reservoir tank and riding the stream of water up into space. Turns out there are aliens that need the water temporarily to help them through some drought stuff; they plan to return the water to Earth once they're done, though. HOWEVER, now that S-M knows what's what, he wants to teach those puny land-dwellers a lesson and keep the water up there. Of course, being the brilliant bastard that he is, it only takes A WHOLE PAGE OR TWO for S-M to realize that his countrymen LIVE IN THE WATER and would thereby be kinda killed by keeping the water up there. So, he relents, and travels back to Earth via the water, and he grouses with his fetching lady friend.

Pluses: all this happens in only 8 pages, and Bill Everett (who I assume was drawring this) is FANTASTIC! If I can figure out how to extract a pic from a .cbr file (maybe screen capture?), I'll post a page of the art.
Minuses: just about everything else (like, does the "Sub" in "Sub-Mariner" stand for "sub-standard brain power"?)

I'm totally for delving into the Golden Age, if only for the art & the carrazy ideas. (Thank you B!tt0rr3nt!)

Blast you Skidmore and your dastardly xpost!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"So, he travels to the Moon by busting a hole in a reservoir tank and riding the stream of water up into space."

The ESA could use thinking like that.

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Like I said! Ideas!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Turns out there are aliens that need the water temporarily to help them through some drought stuff; they plan to return the water to Earth once they're done, though.

That's okay; they can keep it.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 September 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Christ, you know how if you laugh suddenly when you have a mouthful of Mt Dew and you realize you're gonna laugh it out your nose, so you like force it down your throat or something instead, like you inhale the Mt Dew? Yeah, well. Damn you, Mr Perry!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 September 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha!

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 September 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"Namor the Piss-Fetishist"

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The SUB-winkwink-Mariner.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Are Golden Shower Comics Actually Any Good?

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

What in the name of internal water sports just happened?

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Commodore Perry happened.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Abandon ship!

(I shudder to think what'll happen when I post PATSY WALKER synopses here.)

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I would buy the Essential Patsy Walker.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I would even buy a black and white paperback reprint collection of Patsy Walker comic books.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave, you have to admit that the DISTURBING PLOT DETAIL I highlighted there is kind of ew.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It was for IRRIGATION you pervy mang! I wasn't even THINKING of the ureal possibilities! Damn you and your INSIGHT!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 September 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

IS it?

IS it for IRRIGATION?

WHAT are the UREAL POSSIBILITIES of the mysterious INTERGALACTIC BEINGS' theft of THE WORLD'S WATER SUPPLY?

Find out next month, true believers, in an all new, all exciting, all daring issue of WHEN TITANS TINKLE.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 September 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know if this qualifies, but here's a sample from _Patsy & Hedy, Career Girls_ #106 (by Stan Lee & Stan G.) (Goldberg?) (Archie artiste?):

The scene - Patsy Walker & Hedy Wolfe (newspaperwomen) are on their way to San Fran to interview Julian Fairlee, "the famous novelist". They're driving along (making great time thanks to this killer shortcut the "man at the garage" gave Hedy), but...

CAPTION: Then, DISASTER!

PATSY: We've come to a dead STOP! NOW what will we do? We're in the middle of NOWHERE!

HEDY: Beats me, Red! I KNEW I should have learned what all these kooky little dials on the dashboard mean! Oh DEAR...

PATSY: What IS it, Hedy?

CAPTION: You guessed it, gals!

OMG OMG OMG I turn the page, and...

HEDY: There WAS one thing I forgot to do! Cars don't run without gasoline ... do they?

PATSY: You didn't put GAS in the tank?? Hedy, how could you forget THAT?

HEDY: Well, I remembered everything ELSE!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 September 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"... do they?"

Ah, Hedy.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 September 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

And in case you're asking yourself, "What DOES Patsy Walker wear when she's out on the town?", here's your answer! (WARNING: Might be a bit large - 1000 x 1467!!)

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 September 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Patsy's transformation into Hellcat is still one of the most brilliant things that's happened at Marvel, fmm. Something that only could've been done at the time it was done, I think, when at least some of your readers would still remember her.

Man, I remember readers sending in fashion designs and stuff, they must've done that in the Archie comics.

God, she looks like a First Lady in the pompadour one, but then on the right, she's auditioning for the role of Rachel Green!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 September 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Golden Age American comic books were just as good as current American comic books.

So that'd be a no, basically.

David Simpson (David Simpson), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

aw snap

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

You know what was good? Golden Age covers. A lot of them are breathtaking.

Not That Chuck, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

NTC OTM

I made a thread a long time ago about Golden Age Blue Beetle covers where he gradually became background to increasingly prominent foxy ladies.
here it is:
Superheroes Who Lost Their Covers to Hot Dames!

Huk-L, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)


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