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Okay, so I know that they had Firestar and that a whole bunch of second-string Marvel heroes and Avengers sidekicks populated this team and that they were kind of a cult favorite. Anyone here ever read this? What was the deal? Who were the members? Was it really a lost classic or was there a reason it only appealed to a certain comic book fan demographic?

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

It was rubbish.

I think it represented a kind of back-to-basics gosh-wow style in the late-80s which led people to overrate it a bit.

One of the characters was called NIGHT THRASHER.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

What did they do with the Old Warriors?*

*I have no idea who these people are.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Speedball was in them. I used to own the first trade. Gave it to Oxfam a couple of years ago.

― Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't there another character named MATHEMATIX? And also they had a BLACK MALE CHARACTER NAMED RAGE! WAY TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE, GUYS!

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Was he from Louisiana?

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Character names I remember:

Nova
Firestar
Rage
Night Thrasher
Speedball
Mathematix
Powerpax
Turbo
... and I know there were others, I just can't remember them right now. Frankly, I'm amazed I remembered the ones I listed considering I never read the book.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost hahaha he was Gambit's illegitimate quadroon brother.)

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Night Thrasher was black, as I recall.

xpost

― Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

He was from The Machine.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG Rage!! His thing was that he was actually 12 and lived with his equally-caricatured Wise Black Grandma but had accelerated growth syndrome which made him look like an enormous angry stereotype. He wore a tiger mask or something.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

They're coming back in a reality-show stylee pretty soon. [LINKY]

Original members of New Warriors (off the top of my effin' head / w G00gle assist) = Firestar, Justice (her bf - AKA Marvel Boy), Speedball, Namorita (did she change her name?) (I think she turned blue, too!), Night Thrasher, Nova. (xposts making my post totally unnecessary, but eff it.) Rage wore some hockey-mask contraption.

Best thing about New Warriors = first high-profile place Darick Robertson got some luv.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Namorita! I'd forgotten about her! Didn't she die?

Actually, my Usenet memories are resurfacing... Mathematix was a group of villians?

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I actually just reread Tom's last post and WOW!!!!!!! I think I would actually love this series just because of the sheer absurdity of it.

This was Evan Skolnick?

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

FABIAN NICIENZA W000T (sic?)

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

FABIAN NICIENZA (sic)

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

This was FABIAN NICIENZA! (sic)

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved New Warriors for the first 20 issues or so. It felt like Nicieza was doing the Team book he wanted to do as a way of venting the trauma of having to script Liefeld's X-force...

In comparison to what else was around in the MU at the time, it was a seriously quality, fun read. Ok, the characters were generally lame d-listers but Nicieza used all of them well and handled the teen-soap aspects really nicely, better than they had been in any of the X-books or Titans for years.

Mark Bagley did the art for the first few years. Funnily, the book really disimproved once Robertson came in...

Oh, and Darkhawk was a semi-member. As was the Scarlet Spider, I think.
And a girl called Silhouette.

Night Trasher actually got his own mini....

― David N (David N.), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

OK, so don't mind me while I unearth stuff from ILC's Archives, but I guess one of the post-CIVIL WAR goodies Marvel's offering is a regular / limited New Warriors series written by Kevin "Underworld" Grievoux (sic).

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

Nice to see my message got cut off at a sensible point for once! (I blame my work network.)

Anyway, color me meh'd out at the prospect of a new series (featuring who knows who) by the guy what helped make vampire / werewolf wars into a S&M-flavroed Merchant-Ivory rendevous with tedium.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Is Namorita back? I was surprised they killed her, yet saved Speedball.

― lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

You mean PENANCE.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

POTENTIALLY ME IN A NUTSHELL?: Am I the biggest Marvel fan who hasn't ever read New Warriors? I never had a substantial enough lapse in comics reading to account for it -- it's not like I skipped the 90s, and hello, I read fucking REIGN OF THE SUPERMEN and I know who THE DEMOGOBLIN is.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Orange pumpkin bombs were bombs that exploded conventionally (albeit magical) similar to those of the Green Goblin or Hobgoblin. Black pumpkin bombs caused their target to be overwhelmed by massive feelings of despair and helplessness. These powers were all derived from magic.

I hate you, Tep.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

This site has synopses of all three volumes of the main series, plus the members' solo series. The first series should appeal to anyone who liked the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans.

Penance, yeesh. It's generating talk/publicity, and I was never tied to the Speedball character, but it still feels hollow. Edgy for edgy's sake.

― lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

I'd go so far as to say that a lot of the first series is better than the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans. Because the first New Warriors series, while not spectacular, is at least frothy fun. And because the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans kind of sucks.

― Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

They're kind of the ultimate modern 'fan favourite'.

(Which rereading the thread is what Dan is saying in the opening post, oh well).

(Still it has reminded me of RAGE.)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

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