First Issue Madness!!!

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Perhaps you are like me and have a random collection of first issues? Well, this a thread for a discussion of your first issue disasters or loves or just meh-ness!

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

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Justice League Europe issue 1, April 1998.

Giffen & DeMatteis, Sears & Marcos

Synopsis: Justice League are opening their European office in Paris, there are already transporter tube problems - Animal Man's luggage has been burnt to a crisp, and Captain Atom is a pretty useless leader. The rest of the team arrive: Elonogated Man, Power Girl (who?), Flash, Wonder Woman, Rocket Red (who?), Metamorpho (wtf?)...the plot er, thickens with a shadowy man, an angry mind controlled mob (careful! they are civilians!), a dead nazi in the hall way! Oh no! I can't handle the excitement! I never bought the second issue.

Cultural differences are set out thusly:

"The famous American neurosis!" quips a French removal guy
"The famous American sarcasm!" quips the PA

Adverts:
Nintendo: Bubble Bobble, John Elways Quarterback, Wrestlemania,
Lucky Charms
Campbell's Alaphabet Spaghetti
Morning Funnies Cereal
A Bunch of DC Comics

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

opps that should be 1989!

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I totaly didn't bother with JLE, though I did buy the Teasdale Imperative x-over issues.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Why wasn't the JLE's office in Brussels?

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the only issue of JLE I bought! I bought it cause Power Girl was in it and I'd read her Secret Origins but didn't remember having seen her in a comic (apparently she didn't make much impression on me in Crisis). And because it was a #1, of course.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I always like the art in JLE (was it Barry Sears?) better than JLA. Neither was very good though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

You're crazy, Alex. Crazy! I didn't like Bart Sears at all, that's why I didn't buy it.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha there was something about the way he made everyone shiny that appealed to me when I was 13.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, the shininess.

I had every issue of JLE, bought in a foolish splurge of back issue madness just after getting back into comics one time. SO MUCH RUB.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

My worst case of first issue madness was buying the first issue of every !mpact title when I was eleven or twelve. I was like, "This could be the new Marvel Universe, and I'll be in on the ground floor!" My, but I was sadly mistaken.

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

WHAT ABOUT NEW UNIVERSE!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it lasted longer than !mpact.

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't even remember the New Universe comix, but I'm reasonably certain they all sucked.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank god SOMEBODY on the web cares!

http://www.technohol.com/new-u/index.asp

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"In on the ground floor"

- this phrase should be excised from the comics language. No good will come of it.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, I was only eleven.

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

No no it's exactly what I said (at 13!) when I too bought every New Universe first issue. And I said it because JIM EFFING SHOOTER had said it on his Bullpens Bulletins page.

I now really really want to read some New Universe stuff again. Reading the Star Brand issue summaries on that site...dear oh dear.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

We had a New Universe thread, I think, but it might've been a thread derail -- anyway, Dan and I will defend the better parts of the New U (especially in the context of Quality At The Time), although we might disagree on what those better parts were.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah so will I! I mean I honestly genuinely would love to read DP7 and The Pitt again!

But I don't think anyone would hold up Jim Shooter's Star Brand run as among the better parts, though in its way it's a continuaton and refinement of his seminal work on Secret Wars II...

(how curious that Shooter spent the mid 80s on series exploring what one would do if one had the powers of a living God...)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Kickers Inc. sounds like the worst comic ever.

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

That is because it was the worst comic ever.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha I was going to say that.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

JLE was okay up until about ish 8, when G&D left. Did anyone put The Extremists in the "100 worst" thread?

It was also the first comic I bought! 'Cause it had "Europe" in the title and I lived in England.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

First DC comic, i should say (to no one's particular benefit).

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Kickers Inc really was terrible, in both conception and execution. I'm not sure who ever thought that was a good idea, or if they were just brainstorming "let's do something that's not superheroes" and then signed a contract in blood that forced them to commit to every idea that popped out of someone's mouth.

DP 7, though, yeah -- was it only that title, or the whole line, that advanced in real time? 12 months of issues = 1 year of story time? A conceit that really would be nice to see in more comics.

The Shooter omnipotence fetish should have its own thread if for some crazy reason Secret Wars 2 is reissued as a trade paperback and for some crazier reason we all buy it. Maybe it'll show up in CDR instead, that would be nice. Ish.

I also really loved Justice -- not the early issues so much as the ones right around when they cancelled half the NU titles and tried to tie everything explicitly into Star Brand's plotlines, which resulted in revealing that Justice had been suffering from mega delusions throughout the first year and a half of his title!

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(i.e. he thought he was an alien cop appointed to go after bad guys, it turned out he was just a Department of Justice agent who'd gotten wacked with some superpowers and major delusions of grandeur during the White Event)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

All I remember about Justice was his hair.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 November 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

#1's I have known and loved (well, not always)(not counting ltd series):

Green Lantern (latest series) #1
The Phantom #1 (DC's late 80s 12-issue run, I had the complete run! I think I must have been the only person in the whole world who liked it)
Legion of Super-Heroes #1 (the T & M B./Giffen & Gordon version)
Green Lantern Corps #201 (it read something like "Explosive First Issue" on the cover, even though it clearly wasn't)
Legends of the Dark Knight #1 (day-glo covers seemed like an odd way to launch a new title during the post-FM days, but whatever)
JLA: Classified #1
Man-Bat #1 (from the 70s, I think it only lasted 2 issues, it was one of the first back issues I ever bought, I think I paid about $4 for it in 1988)

Near misses:
Justice League #2 or 3
Green Arrow #2 (the Grell version)
that's it off the top of my head

Huk-L, Thursday, 18 November 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The good thing about the New Universe was the way Marvel eventually ended up treating it - this is not working, lets fuck it up some. Destroy a City, kill a few characters etc.

If only, when the various Image Universes go (will they ever go? Have they passed that date and become - dare i say it - canonical?) they should hand them all over to Ellis or Millar or Morrison or best of all Moore for some horrible down n dirty destruction...

David N (David N.), Thursday, 18 November 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

What were the actual sales on NU titles - does anyone know?

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 18 November 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Quite badly.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 November 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The DC NU:

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Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 18 November 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

JLE was okay up until about ish 8, when G&D left

Giffen stayed on JLE until the end of his run on JLA, only DeMatteis jumped ship (and he still came back for the odd fill-in or cross-over issue, like the one about the stray cat invading JLE via teleporter technology). It's not terrible (until the Breakdowns pisstake/crossover where everything went shit on purpose), but the point of the second series was to focus less on the sitcom stuff and more on INTERDIMENSIONAL ADVENTURE, just with the same style of dialogue.

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 18 November 2004 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

And also, I assume, to get some A-Listers in to the League, I mean, Flash and Wonder Woman, and maybe, when compared to Booster Gold, Elongated Man.

Huk-L, Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
I did end up reading DP7 again!

I have a Lot To Say about it. It wasn't all good but it's quite forward-looking.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 21 February 2005 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
Revive for the New Universe connection - Exiles visits the NU in issues # 72 - 74. Newsarama article here.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)


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