Sin City: The Movie

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Here's a news article I found on it. I didn't like the story but maybe Robert Rodriguez can make it into a good film.

― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Thursday, 18 March 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh, Leo involved means that it looks like the Dwight stories are going to be made = dud. Which is a shame, because despite haters, the first Sin City is fab. God Himself told me.

― O.Leee.B. (Leee), Thursday, 18 March 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

But Bruce Willis is involved too, and he's the logical Hollywood pick for Marv from the first one (the only one I've read).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 March 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Willis doesn't strike me as Marv-material, which to me is a physically huge ugly guy (e.g. Ron Perlman but he's booked), not a kind of big ugly guy.

― O.Leee.B. (Leee), Friday, 19 March 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

This news article says Elijah Wood is going to be in Sin City (But as who? No way he can play Marv.) and IMDb say Josh Hartnett is going to be in it.

Hmmm... I didn't get the impression that Sin City was a pretty-boy kind of story. What's up with the casting director?

― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 19 March 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Dwight sort of is a pretty boy. Can't really tell the way Frank Miller draws nowadays.

― O.Leee.B. (Leee), Friday, 19 March 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=17080

I weep.

Really I think the only good that's come out of Sin City is the first trade, all the other volumes are by varying degrees rub, and mixing everything together is going to be awful.

― O.Leee.B. (Leee), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

And dammit all to hell Mickey Rourke's supposed to play Marv!

― O.Leee.B. (Leee), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't think of anyone that could play Marv better than Mickey Rourke... But maybe he's too old now? Bruce Willis, too.

Tell me, can you think of any relatively young (25-30) actors who are really big, dirty, gruff, kind of stupid- and ugly-looking? That's who should play Marv... To bad this is these age of the Ashton "I-have-a-mama-fixation" Kutcher type. If the actor playing Marv hasn't had his nose broken at least once, I'm boycotting the film.

OH MY GOD! I just thought of the most PERFECT person! Two words: Henry Rollins. [*sigh*] (Okay, he's no spring chicken but I'm willing to overlook that fact because he's the most perfect male specimen walking the face of the earth right now.)

― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I kiss you. Rollins would be great (after Perlman of course). As far as Marv's age, I don't think he's THAT young -- the grizzledness seems to have come from long years of the rough and tumble.

― O.Leee.B. (Leee), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Christian Bale could get himself hit with an ugly stick and be a decent Marv (if Marv = the iconic trenchcoat-wearing Sinner).

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Yeah rouke would work, i think dolph lunrem would fit as well. as for bale i think he should stick to batman

― tintedoils, Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

What do people think of this film, by the way? I hated it, but then, I'm no great fan of Frank Millar, or hard boiled voiceovers, or Bruce Willis so...ha. Do you buy all the blather that said this was the most faithful comic book adaptation ever? [ie. preserving a "vision"?] Do you want more comic book/big screen adapatations to do this? Or do you not mind that somethings get lost in the translation?

For the fans, though: the DVD is out now in the UK, so I presume its out on Region 1 too, BUT I would hold off buying because Rodriguez is apparently releasing a director's cut version with each of the three segments extended to near feature length.

― steviespitfire (steviespitfire), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

Stylistically beautiful, morally dubious. I enjoyed it, but it left a slightly bad taste in my mouth..

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

Much like a Miller comic.

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

Stylistically beautiful, morally dubious.

Completely OTM.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

I sat and watched Marv's portion of the movie with the first trade (The Hard Goodbye?). I didn't particularly like the story but the movie is shot-for-shot from each panel in the book; the dialogue is word-for-word. Color me impressed.

― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it's EASILY the closest to the source material of any comic book movie yet.

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that whole panel for panel thing. I agree it's faithful, and that is impressive in a way...but...It's like those guys who do reproductions of Monet's or something. Or, sory, better analogy/point/etc,why not just get all the individual frames and do that old fashioned flick book thing! While reading the dialogue in a hard-boiled voice! [haha, hard-boiled voice]

In short: if I have the books, why do I need a moving picture facsimilie? Is the answer just: "Because it is a moving picture?" Maybe they should have gotten some new stories or something. You know, for the fans. [Disclaimer: my ambivalence to FM is colouring my words here, sorry if I sound grumpy]

― steviespitfire (steviespitfire), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

I though the Mickey Rourke segment was awesome (espesh the electrocution scene: "Is that the best you got, ya pansies..."). The rest I could give or take.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

The acting's terrible, though! Except for Mick and Eli.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

I liked the gratuities nudity. Really, I did.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

my boyfriend is insisting that we rent this on DVD - I am not so keen on the idea.

― Mark C (Markco), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

It's gorey- Keep a barf bucket handy if you have a weak constitution.

― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Worth watching if you're at all a cinephile though, cos there's never been another film that looks quite like it.

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

I agree with both of those statements with the caveat that the gore is very, very cartoony and didn't bother me (a full-fledged goreaphobe) in the slightest.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

I met my boyfriend at this movie.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

I think the dialogue sounds much more forced being spoken than it reads on the page. The opening "She smells like angels ought to smell" illicited a lot of snickers in the theatre.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

I absolutely fucking loved it. Morally it's worthless, but that is an inevitable consequence of making even a reasonably faithful adaptation. Visually I thought it was breathtaking and thrilling. It is straight from the comic, but it isn't a series of stills - it has actors and movement and sound, and I thought it was a brilliant and daring and original transliteration from comics to cinema. I guess Ghost World remains my favourite comicbook adaptation, but this is a close second for me, and third place is a LONGGGGGGGGGGG way behind (Men In Black, I guess).

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Whatever, Martin. You don't have to hide your love for Hasselhoff's Nick Fury here.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

Martin and I are totally on the same page re: "Sin City".

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

haha, I have seen the Hasselhoff Fury! It was even worse than I could have imagined. It looked like a desperate and obviously doomed pilot for a bad TV series, and Hasselhoff was hilariously bad.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Just dug out some quick comments I made elsewhere about it:

me: The Nick Fury movie was, you'll be amazed to hear, not terribly good. Hasselhoff looks right enough, but is even worse as an actor than I had ever realised, and the whole thing looks like a TV movie pilot for a new series in every way. Thankfully not a successful one.

a friend: did they have the shield helicarrier?
dum-dum dugan?
jasper sitwell?
the contessa valentina allegra de fontaine...?

me: No Sitwell, but otherwise yes - at least, I think the tubby old pal was Dugan. Never quite caught his name. The Helicarrier looked a bit rubbish, but it is hard to make it look plausible. The alleged Contessa was just a random American actress who was called that. We also had Gabe, and the young SHIELD agent who was posh and British and rather naive, whose name I've forgotten. Also Baron Strucker, more or less, and someone by the name of Arnim Zola who might as well have been any old Nazi scientist. The elements were mostly there, but just kind of bolted together to no great purpose, directed by someone whose peak will be 4th-rate TV pilots (like this one), and starring someone who acts about as well as Joey from Friends. There was this "I AM ACTING NICK FURY NOW" feel to Hasselhoff all the time. They seemed to feel compelled towards the hoariest cliches - the opening scene was of Nick being re-recruited, after having left SHIELD because he was just too exciting and radical and daring for the suits, man, or some such.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

The problem with actors and movement and sound is that there's a lot more variables to mess up than with a series of stills.

― Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

"I AM ACTING NICK FURY NOW"

Who needs scripts or trained actors anymore! We could just get them to wear a card with info like that written on it. Wear it like a leper's bell. Millar! Rodriguez! Take note, dudes!

Brittany Murphy might just save this for me if I watched it again. But then I think of Bruce Willis and Thee Ultimate Sacrifice and I want to cry.

― steviespitfire (steviespitfire), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

I guess Ghost World remains my favourite comicbook adaptation, but this is a close second for me, and third place is a LONGGGGGGGGGGG way behind (Men In Black, I guess).

Does American Splendor count?

― M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 6 October 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)

the first Men In Black is a better movie than American Splendour!

It's not as good as Danger: Diabolik though

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm afraid I haven't yet seen American Splendor. Is it adapted from any of the comics? If it's just a film about HP, I'm not sure that it counts. But I'm not sure that it doesn't, either, given the nature of the AS comics.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 6 October 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

Brittany Murphy is so, so, SO classic in "Sin City". She definitely had a better handle on how to work the source material than Clive Owen.

I'm still trying to figure out who pwned their part more; Brittany Murphy, Mickey Roarke, Benicio Del Toro or Devon Aoki.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Brittany Murphy, dude. Brittany Murphy. Props to Benecio for acting as a severed head though.

― steviespitfire (steviespitfire), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Brittany Murphy is so, so, SO classic in "Sin City". She definitely had a better handle on how to work the source material than Clive Owen.

so otm

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

Honestly, if Owen hadn't had to worry so much about his o'so shakie American accent, he probably would have been able to pull off that role much better. As it was...

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

pretty underwritten role, too!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

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