Shipping This Week! -- 05.02.02

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I've never started one of thse threads before, but here you go.

Seaguy trade is out, with promise (according to Ninth Art) of a sequel, sometime, possibly somewhere.

Also, the new Adam Strange (can anyone gmail me that?), Seven Soldiers and Rogue Trooper reprints, a price-cut on the still-disappointing New Avengers, all-censored Shanna and still no new Astonishing X-Men.

Okay, and there's this, I'll-leave-you-to-guess-what: http://toychest.diamondcomics.com/toys/11_04/ConstantineShotgun.solicit.jpg

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Ah, I know this one without looking. It's a gun from the Constantine film...

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

I know this one from the file name. I am smoooooth!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

Constantine has a giant gun made of gold?

Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

No, a GIANT CROSSBOW/TOMMY GUN made of gold. With a SCOPE.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I can go this week and get We3, Seven Soldiers, and Seaguy and wallow in Morrisonianness.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

PLEASE NOTE: the Seven Soldiers in the list is actually Golden Age (or Silver Age) reprints! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! The Morrison Seven Soldiers isn't due for another couple of weeks.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

I've got a good balance of grittiness and goofiness (with a little, why am I bothering, for good measure).


GRIT:
Deadshot
Detective (yes, I'm so eager for this!)
The Question (likewise!)

Goofiness:
Superman/Batman (the goofiness of this title alone counters the combined grittiness of the three above)

Why Do We Always Come Here?:
Justice League Elite (Mahnke and Nguyen, that's why!)

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

ADAM STRANGE #5
FIRESTORM #10
JOHN CONSTANTINE HELLBLAZER SPECIAL PAPA MIDNITE #1
QUESTION #4
SWAMP THING #12
NEW AVENGERS #3
SHANNA THE SHE DEVIL #1
ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #72
ALAN MOORES HYPOTHETICAL LIZARD #1

Hooray for more Adam Strange/Omega Men goodness!

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if my comic shop has all 5 issues of Adam Strange in stock. You make me want to buy it.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

If I Was a Rich Girl (Na Na Na etc.):

CONCRETE HUMAN DILEMMA #2 (OF 6)

ADAM STRANGE #5 (OF 8)
BIZARRO WORLD HC
DETECTIVE COMICS #803
INTIMATES #4
QUESTION #4 (OF 6)
SUPERMAN #213
SUPERMAN BATMAN #17

BLACK PANTHER #1
DAREDEVIL REDEMPTION #1 (OF 6)
MARVEL TEAM-UP #5
NEW AVENGERS #3
SHANNA THE SHE DEVIL #1 (OF 7)
SUPREME POWER #15 (MR)
ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #72
X-MEN PHOENIX ENDSONG #2 (OF 5)

(some small press stuff I'll have to research)

2004 RED SOX WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS COIN (not really, but WOOOOO!)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

You're getting the Bizarro World in hardcover? Is your secret identity Booster Gold or something?

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Oh, hang on, is that the new Bizarro book? Me too, in that case.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

So you're the two.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

If I Was a Rich Girl (Na Na Na etc.)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Me am not.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

I don't even entertain idle thoughts of buying stuff in hardcover. I just don't have that kind of imagination.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Me only not buy Bizarro hardcovers, me buy everything else in hardcover.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I still think one of you might be Booster Gold.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Any thoughts on the latest S/B storyline, anyone? Should i buy/not buy?

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

I fear it's going to end badly, but if you're a fan of Earth 2/3/N shenanigans involving "what if?" versions of the DC superheroes kicking the crap out of each other (said crapkicking drawn beautifully by Carlos Pacheco) (sic?), then you should hop on board.

According to Previews (& my spotty memory), the next S/B artist is Ian Churchill. Coincidentally enough, it's also a SUPERGIRL arc. (Or maybe it's a one-issue thing.) That's 2 nu-Supergirl stories, drawn by two artistes I'm not so fond of. I phear the concave midriff. (Ed McGuinness is coming back, though!)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

It's wicked fun.
It all started when a bunch of Legion Of Super-Heroes villains travelled back, waaaay back in time and kidnapped young Kal-El and Bruce Wayne and raised them to be brutal dictators of Earth. Then Wonder Woman and Uncle Sam led a reisistance, which flung S & B into the time stream, where they keep jumping from alternate timeline to alternate time, meeting people like Kamandi the Last Boy and Jonah Hex, the last issue (the one before the one that shipped today) featured some awesome explanation, reaching all the way back to the Future Superman appearance in S/B #2. It's big goofy adventure, and Carlos Pacheco is doing a great job. It sometimes feels like Loeb writes up or down according to his artist (his stuff with Sale, Lee & McGuinness has been great, but his stuff with Turner was blecccchh!) or maybe he's just that kind of a writer who's actually completely dependent on his artist? I don't know, but I'm really enjoying S/B, and I didn't think I'd ever be able to after the Supergirl fiasco.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

xpost, yeah, the Churchill/Supergirl is a one-off, leading into her own series.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

"a bunch of Legion Of Super-Heroes villains"

Or, you know, THE FOUNDING MEMBERS! (It was the founding 3, right?)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

No, it's actually their evil counterparts. Lightning LORD, Cosmic KING and Saturn Queen.
Lightning Lord is the only one I know anything about (at least in the "traditional" LSH versions), he's Lightning Lad & Lass's non-twin brother Mekt Ranzz, who was with them when they got their zappy powers, but because he had no twin, he was crazy (every one else on their home planet has a twin), and went EVIL.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

No, it's actually their evil counterparts. Lightning LORD, Cosmic KING and Saturn QUEEN.

You are kidding me. That is the greatest, silliest thing ever. Why the hell are their evil counterparts royalty? & is there a Matter-Eater PRINCE running about?

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

Lo, the portal to an unsettling amount of info re: LSH
http://www.mactyre.net/scm/deejay/champs/teams/legion_villains.html

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

Actually, that link is something of a letdown. But it does have a listing of all the awesome Legion of Supervillains members, whose names are even better than the LSH themselves...Chameleon Chief, anyone?

Huk-L, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of Legion, I picked up #2 of the new series, and it was pretty great. I know very little about previous Legion stories, continuity, etc. -- most of what I know about the characters I know from having read Who's Who in the 80s, and the occasional guest appearance.

So I have no idea how well it's serving LOSH fans, or whether it's just rehashing stuff that was already cool, or what -- but other folks in my boat might like it as much as I do. (Although I may very well be the only DC fan on the board who's a LOSH newbie.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 February 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

Solidarity in LOSH ign'ance, Tep! I like teh orange guy what the antlers.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 February 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

The whole thing with Dream Girl's world is ... wild. It reminds me of a lot of Silver Age stories (presumably because Waid is being faithful to Silver Age material here). And Brainiac 5 rocks. Actually, the chemistry between the characters -- just going by #2 here, mind you -- reminds me of Astonishing X-Men, at least moreso than of any other comic I've read lately.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 February 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm ig'nant, too -- is this new LOSH a complete contintuity re-hash a la John Byrne's new Doom Patrol, or do those Giffen ishes from the early 90s still exist?

And why does the green guy look like the green guy from L.E.G.I.O.N '90?

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 3 February 2005 04:54 (twenty years ago)

The Giffen period from the early '90s was actually 86ed years ago, with Zero Hour. But: The new LSH is set up to be a fresh start/totally accessible to new readers, but there's also nothing that says any story you like from any previous Legion continuity didn't happen. Really kind of brilliant, the way they've arranged it.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 3 February 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

Complete re-hash. But pretending it hasn't been re-hashed a few times over, then the green guy from L.E.G.I.O.N. is an ancestor of the green guy from the Legion.

x-post!

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 3 February 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

The Green Guy from LOSH is Braniac 5, Superman's modern day enemy being Braniac (the 1 is implied), and the guy from L.E.G.I.O.N. is technically Braniac 2, though I think he mostly went by Vril Dox II.

I really enjoyed LOSH #2, as well. I like that they're making them teens again, but not so much like Teens of Today (like the last one seemed to be), OR ARE THEY???

Huk-L, Thursday, 3 February 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Hm. How did Zero Hour do that? (x-x-x-post)
I'm not actually sure I need to know, but...

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Oy vey. Be careful what you ask for.

Huk-L, Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Zero Hour reset all DC continuity just like Crisis.

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:37 (twenty years ago)

Well, Crisis nominally reset all DC continuity, but with a couple of major exceptions (Superman, Wonder Woman) it didn't reboot, it just adjusted itself. Legion had to adjust some (Valor, the "pocket universe" business), but the sense was that most of what we'd seen from Adventure 258 onwards was more or less history, even if Superboy wasn't involved.

Zero Hour left virtually all DC continuity intact, but wiped Legion continuity altogether; the subsequent Legion series was totally rebooted from the formation of the group, with no active history.

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 4 February 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

The new Adam Strange has L.E.G.I.O.N. in it.

No wonder we're beginning to talk about this book leading into Crisis II.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 4 February 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

THIS WEEK: (in order that I read)

Nightwing #102 (actually last week's) - a big fat wind-up to satisfy all the pre-Crisis mouth-breathers who slaver over the fact that Nightwing got his name from the costumed vigilante Supes sometimes became when he visited the Bottled City of Kandor. The real awesomeness was in the last few pages, which set up that Nightwing's original high-collar was inspired by...(wait for it)...DEADMAN (who I love)!

Deadshot #3 - The best issue of the series so far, as Deadshot and Green Arrow go toe-to-toe, and then go for a beer. Steven Cummings does a great GA.

Justice Leage Elite #8 - Love the art, couldn't give a rat's ass about the story.

Superman/Batman #17 - the least flashy issue of this arc so far (and considering there's a a guest appearance by the Haunted Tank AND a two-page spread showing half the JLA emerging from Lazarus Pit, that's saying something!), really asks readers not to question too much, but it's enough fun that you don't. SPOILER: More Legion of Super-Villains!

The Question #4 - Oooooooooh yeeeeeeeeaaaaaah. Though did they need to remind us why the badguys do their business in the bathroom, after talking it to death last issue? Still, there were enough fan-fucking-tastic scenes here to make up for it (and compared to JL Elite, it was nice to have a little tiny recap).

Detective Comics #803 - I have a feeling that from here on in, until the resolution, that is, Lapham's arc is just going to leave me frustrated. Which is a good thing. The first page is beautiful, and so's the rest.

Huk-L, Friday, 4 February 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

The one thing I actually got this week is New Avengers #3, the "putting the team together" issue. Best bit: Captain America convincing Spider-Man to join. "So, can I ask you something? That 'not being part of any team' thing: how's that working out for you?" Entertaining, but sloooow. Interesting twist at the end, though.

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

A pocket history of the pocket universe! http://members.aol.com/aviafree/main.htm

This could be the most confusing thing I've ever read.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

The first twelve or so issues (including the Annual) of the Giffen LoSH are very rad. Actually, the first five really are the best, as they destroy and rebuild the universe a few times trying to account for all the pre/post-Crisis hugaballoo.

Huk-L, Friday, 4 February 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

THE FINAL STRAW: We3 is on my pull-list. It came out a few weeks ago (as you might know). I never got a copy. I asked the chap @ my local store how that happened. "It's Bill's fault", he says; "Bill does the pulls." Damn it, Bill.

We're breaking up next week.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 February 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

They should re-order you a new one, STAT (i don't know how long it takes the orders to go through/be delivered, but COME ON!) and give it to you onnahouse.

Huk-L, Friday, 4 February 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I don't expect that! And, really, the store's system is totally shoddy - they track the incoming stuff through some DOS-based database, they'll "go in the back" or go through someone else's pullbox if you are looking for a new release that's sold out (which I've benefitted from many times), and if there's something they can't get ahold of, they'll make a note in a small scrap of paper that'll hopefully not get lost between their writing & their ordering. Compare this to the store I went to before this, which was totally state-of-the-art (they had a UPC scanner!) and a thing of beauty (excepting the shitty location, which lead to them shutting doors, which led me to this place).

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

Really, I've been itching to go online for a while - it'd be easier for me to track & keep on top of stuff (esp. given the, um, size of my want list) & budget (shocker!), and I wouldn't have to drive out of my way to get my fix. It really is the romance & nostalgia of the New Release Day that kept me from doing the switch, but w/ a pull list & all that, it's about as romantic as a glory hole. (I MIGHT BE EXAGGERATING, THOUGH.)

I don't mind a little occasional "oops" from a mom-&-pop (or dude-&-friend) operation, but this is chronic, & the way the guy said it - "It's Bill's fault" - inferred that this is the way things are & the way they will be forever & ever, & the door's right over there if you can't roll w/ dat, son. Especially if Bill is who I think it is - the middle-aged guy that looks (& sorta acts) like a scruffier & friendlier version of the J. Peterman blurb-writing Vietnam vet from Seinfeld, w/ a dog and a loud, off-kilter voice. And an odd earthy aroma, too. He's really nice, but there's a "please wait, operators are standing by" vibe to his conversations and how he handles himself.

Anyway, what I'm saying is I'm either switching to an online retailer, or I'm searching for a nice comic joint run by asexual Eurotrash yuppies doing lines on an enclosed CGC 9.6 copy of Superman / Darkness #1 while listening to Miss Kittin & LCD Soundsystem, and I can't afford to drive to NYC every week, so online I will go.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Douglas - "just like" = neither Crisis nor Zero Hour actually reset everything = simplest possible explanation for Chuck!

Crisis did make LSH reboot a few times over, really, apart from the Pocket Universe fiasco (didn't it only account for Superboy? what about every other time they went back in time? I've never read the whole thing because that Death of Superboy issue costs 25x what everything else does thanks to the Sienkiewicz cover) (and Millennium fucked shit too, with Laurel Kent turning out to be thousands of years old and made of metal when her most recent story had been all about her getting SHOT and BLEEDING and being under MEDICAL EXAMINATION) (plus the whole Crisis takes them by surprise but afterwards Brainiac 5 had always known Supergirl would die in the Crisis boo hoo made no sense) when the Super-office that had insisted on the Pocket Universe now insisted it couldn't exist, so they reboot to the Glorith universe then reboot again to the Valor/Laurel Gand/Kid Quantum universe, in which the whole Adventure 247-onwards history COULDN'T REALLY FIT...

Imagine how great those first 20 issues of v4 would have been if they hadn't had to spend half of them rebooting and then doing flashback issues to explain the new history. (And hadn't done that lame space war story with Giffen AWOL.)

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I didn't buy anything new this week, but did go looking for the first issue of that Dan Slott/Ty Templeton Spidey/Human Torch miniseries (it's great fun! though I may enjoy the future issues less because they won't be set in the early '60s and I won't appreciate how they fit into the continuity/style of the time)(also/although Templeton cartooning always reads much better with his own lettering, and the computer typesetting here is extra-jarring) and picked up a bunch of 80s and 90s things from the dollar bins in a shop I only go into once a year.

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 4 February 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Wow. That's the second criticism I've seen of the lettering in Spidey/Torchy. I don't see it, myself. What bugs me is the colouring, which, I suspect has more to do with the paper. They're trying to use some old fashioned colouring techniques, but because it's on nice, glossy paper, it doesn't bleed the same way good old newsprint does.

I'm a little hesitant about future issues too. The 60s style is mega-fun.

Huk-L, Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)


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