Po-Faced Absurdity of DC Comics, Part 2: Son of Po-Face

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― Huk-L, Friday, 25 February 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

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― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

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― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

BURN

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Show me a Green Arrow scene where he doesn't end up taking it to a super-hero like s/he is being housebroken, and I'll show you a Green Arrow scene where the writer don't know JACK SQUAT.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

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― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

It's all about THE FINGER!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

And, you know, since he's an archer, pointing is a totally natural trait!

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha!

Nero: CHEAP PUNK

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, I fucking hate cheap punks! Right on, Green Arrow!

Doesn't it ever seem that Green Arrow is in total denial about how much of a macho loudmouth he is?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

You don't read Green Arrow, do you?
That's his bete noir, basically, that he himself struggles to live up to his own ideals.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

& then gives everyone a rash of shit about their own supposed shortcomings. With THE FINGER! He's basically Wolverine w/ Professor X's sense of propriety & Spidey's motor mouth. Basically. Even if he predates those characters by 30 years. Basically.

FINGER!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

No, I admit that I'm a casual reader of non-Legion, non-Giffen, non-Vertigo DC comics at best. I'm familiar with everything, but I haven't regularly read any DCU stuff since the late 80s/early 90s.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

He's basically Wolverine w/ Professor X's sense of propriety & Spidey's motor mouth. Basically.

!!!

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

God, if Green Arrow had been available for the Giffen/DeMatteis JL, that would have been awesome.
Hell, I would even love to see Giffen drawing GA.

Even if he predates those characters by 30 years. Basically.

Well, basically is the key word here. Green Arrow was revamped (lost the sleeves, gained the beard and the mouth) in the late 60s by Neal Adams (and Denny O'Neil) in direct response to what was going on at Marvel.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Well, yeah, I sorta neglected / forgot that "reinvention" part - he's just been so cranky for so long, though, I figured he was a crank even when he was heavily working the Robin Hood / Peter Pan look & pushing war bonds.

"DON'T BE A PUNK - SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!" *cover of GA giving a knocked-out Hitler & Hirohito THE FINGER*

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

It suddenly seems necessary for Giffen and DeMatteis to do a Green Arrow/Guy Gardner miniseries.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

But he gets as good as he gives:
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xpost, HELL YEAH!

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Just assume I'm saying !!! a lot.

(Esp. to GA/GG and THE FINGER AT WAR.)

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

http://www.greenarrowfansite.com/reviews/images/GLno87.JPG

the above issue also features a totally rad page where GA calls up a bunch of his superbuds for advice on entering politics. It's totally sweet. I love/miss the way you could sometimes see superheroes hanging out.

http://www.greenarrowfansite.com/reviews/images/BBno100b.JPG

okay, that's it.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh damn Black Canary did not just say that (30+ years ago)!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

"Big Daddy's a real generation-gap veteran" would be a great T-shirt.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Don't look at this, Huk

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― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

HOLY HANNAH!

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

"No no, I said 'can I borrow some eyebrow dye,' not 'can I play with your bondage guy'!"

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Don't lecture ME, on the drug problem, LANTERN! I've been into it with SPEEDY, my -- oooh, an appletini!

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

Green Arrow's adventures as a travelling martini salesman ended tragically the day he knocked on the door of the nefarious Leatherduck.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

Don't lecture ME, on the drug problem, LANTERN! I've been into it with SPEEDY, my -- oooh, an appletini!

LOCK THREAD OMG

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

geez, with a name like "speedy"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

He should get a new sidekick called "Cracky."

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 March 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

Speedy only got into opiates to rebel against the name Big Daddy forced upon him

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 10 March 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

Leave Black Canary alone! She can't help it if she's a hep-talkin' groovy mama

― Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 10 March 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure a writer's done a story where Green Arrow goes off all a pointin' and the characters roll their eyes and say, "Oh, there goes Ollie AGAIN..." and walk out of the room. Can someone point me at that story?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

I think Speedy's done that a few times. Probably while high.

"You don't KNOW ME, man! I got PROBLEMS that you can't even ... um ... aw, $!@#! Just BACK OFF, Gramps, before I BREAK your WALKER! stupidssumminaflaghradkslFIVE DOLLARS? gedoddaherre..."

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Oh wow - Cheech & Chong (circa now) as Green Arrow & Speedy!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

During Kevin Smith's run, when GA was fresh from the grave, his first run-ins with Aquaman (where he lectured him about democracy and how the King of the Ocean needed to get hip to the power of the people) and Hawkman (his right-wing counter-part during the classic JLA era) both ended with hugs. "Oh it's so good to have you back, you blustery windbag!"

― Huk-L, Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Just curious, but how on earth did they resurrect Oliver Queen and have it make sense?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Well, lucky for Oliver, when he died his best was all-powerful and full of regret. Hal Jordan was in his Parallax phase then, and just before he sacrificed himself to reignite the sun in Final Night, he stopped at Ollie's gravesite and using his crazy Parallax powers pulled traces of Ollie's DNA off Superman's costume. (When Hal, by then the Spectre, explained it to Ollie, he joked about how it would have been impossible to do if Ollie had blown up all over Batman, because that guy actually does his laundry, or rather, has a butler who does his laundry.) From those, he fashioned Ollie a new body.
Then he went to Heaven (I'm not sure how Parallax got into Heaven, even on a day pass, so don't ask) to get Ollie's soul back into the body. Ollie-Soul was like, "nuh-uh, hombre. I like it here. Ever hear of the phrase ETERNAL REWARD???"
But Ollie-Soul didn't want to hurt Hal's feelings (and risk having him go all psycho and unravel the timestream AGAIN) so he let Hal recreate a soulless Ollie, but only with memories and physical aging up to the end of when Hal & Ollie had travelled across America looking for meaning.
Ollie's soulless body was found by an old Satanist who wanted a new body and access to the JLA technology to find a particular demon he had the hots for and blah-blah-blah, Ollie-Body and Ollie-Soul were reunited to save the life of Connor Hawke, Ollie's recently revealed son, who had busted in mid-Satanic ritual to save pop-pop but fucked it up because he grew up without a father.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Ollie-Body and Ollie-Soul were reunited to save the life of Connor Hawke, Ollie's recently revealed son, who had busted in mid-Satanic ritual to save pop-pop but fucked it up because he grew up without a father.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

Wow, that's way more convoluted and ridiculous than I'd have guessed. Didn't he die in an explosion or something? Couldn't they just say he escaped or was captured or something?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

How would they explain THE BLOOD, though? And the BURNT HAT? And, oh my God, what is that over there in the rubble ... it's ... it's ... THE FINGER! (And it's pointing at me? WTF, Ollie? You're dead! Give it a rest! Libertarian douche.)

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

The death scene was written to make it very clear that couldn't happen -- when half the issue is "Superman can't save you without amputating your arm," it's hard to sell "but you managed to walk away afterwards" -- as written, though, the resurrection isn't really any more ridiculous than most comics (although it stands out for a Green Arrow story, especially given the last ten, fifteen years of the character).

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

This is exactly why Marvel and DC should never kill off any iconic characters whatsoever. It's just messy and stupid.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

What's more realistic: characters that exist in a permanent status quo, or characters that come back from the dead in improbable, convoluted ways?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

What's chocolatier?

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Wait a sec - how DID Green Arrow die?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

His arm was trapped in a bomb that was going to explode over ... Metropolis? Superman offered to amputate his arm to save him -- he couldn't be removed from the bomb without the bomb going off, but the bomb could be disarmed (ha) if the arm stayed in it; Ollie elected to die rather than be a one-armed archer. (It's possible Superman wasn't positive he could amputate without the bomb going off, I don't remember.) Huck probably remembers details I'm leaving out.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Ha - if only the bomb was over Antartica or North Dakota. "DAMN IT, Clark - I don't CARE about @#!&ing BISMARCK and a bunch of COWS! Just get my ARM of this STUPID BOMB NOW!"

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Clearly, from my last post, you can tell that they set GA up the bomb of his arm.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't reading comics from 91 through 03, so I don't remember. It was sort of an homage to DKR where Ollie appears with an arm missing.

In Brad Meltzer's brief run on Green Arrow, he opened with "I was dead. I came back." And I read that and went ZOWEE, that's good enough for me. Because it's a freakin' comic book.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

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Okay, how did Black Canary manage to take out Superman??????

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

I thought we talked about this on the Science V. Ugliness thread. Blondes (especially leggy blondes) are unassailable.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

So basically you are saying that Black Canary has a Kryptonite punani?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Once you go green...

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

... your girlbits get mean?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

haha - i like that she kicked the atom's ass too.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

did she peg ollie?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

From the man-thing that brought you Basic Instinct and Showgirls comes an exploration into the seedier side of superheroes...

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When the caged bird sings ... LOOK OUT!

Black Canary is ... PLUCKED! (A Joe Eszterhaus Production)

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

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THEY FELL FROM HER QUIM: A JLA special event!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Batman kinda looks like he's ready to go again.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 March 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

I like that Superman's costume is still intact (though I guess he didn't get on the tear-away shirts until post-Byrne) and his hair isn't even tussled.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

Return of the FINGER!!!
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― Huk-L, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I like the fact that even the dog doesn't have a face!

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

That man has no nose!

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

Clearly, Ollie's beard acts not just as carbon-dating-like heptitude signifier, but also as face-vanishing-preventor.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe this hasn't made it yet:
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― Huk-L, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

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The rest of Nightwing's sentence: "...your clone!"

― BARMS, Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

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― Huk-L, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Brad Meltzer was right! The DCU will never be the same post-Identity Crisis! To wit, no THE FINGER:
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― Huk-L, Monday, 2 May 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

I really hope they make out after that last panel.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

They don't. :( Green Arrow does get sorta emotional, tho.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

No hot Mahnke love?

― Huk-L, Monday, 2 May 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

sorry.

― Huk-L, Monday, 2 May 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

I saw Auto Focus this weekend. It puts the Bat / GA exchange in a WHOLE new light.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Dear Green Arrow,

Buy some conditioner.

yr pal,
Huk-L

― Huk-L, Monday, 2 May 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

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― Huk-L, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

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― Huk-L, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

Even if I had Kryptonian stomach organisms, I wouldn't eat seafood at a place called "Nemo's Revenge."

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

That waitress is a man in drag, yes?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

I am trying to construct a joke about Metrosexualopolis. It's not happening.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...

http://www.tgfa.org/comics/superman/images/Superboy_78_03.jpg

The full story is here.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, the whole site is pretty interesting:

http://www.tgfa.org/comics/

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/hukl/superboypanel2.jpg

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, that site Tuomas links to is the most Tuomasesque site imaginable.

― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Friday, 5 May 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

My best friend who mainly lurks was telling me that Tuomas was the poster she liked best and who can blame her.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 5 May 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Question for Tuomas when he's next online: How do you pronounce your name? In my head it's Too-omas, but that's probably wrong.

― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Friday, 5 May 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it's basically to-omas, the omas part is mostly like in "Thomas" (which my name is a Finnish version of), expect the "uo" is pronounced as a diphtong, but I don't think English has that.

My best friend who mainly lurks was telling me that Tuomas was the poster she liked best and who can blame her.

Can you give me her number, hur hur.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 6 May 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

This is Marvel and not DC, but...

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Only in comics can you have someone say, "Miss America! Did you see any signs yet of that NAZI VAMPIRE?".

― Tuomas, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 20:30 (sixteen years ago)

This is probably my all-time favourite example of comic book absurdity:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tales-of-the-unexpected-85.jpg

Can you imagine... red turning green?! The horror!!!

― Tuomas, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

I have to be honest with you and say if that were to really happen, I would be pretty freaked out.

I'm cool with nazi vampires though, and with Miss America being charged with the responsibility for dealing with them.

― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

Well yeah, if red turned green, I'm sure people would be freaked out for a while, but they'd probably get used to it pretty soon. It's not like the change would destroy the fabric of our society or anything.

― Tuomas, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 20:56 (sixteen years ago)

replacing those traffic lights will be a bitch. would fuck up traffic good & proper. actually now you got me curious what other horrifying consequences are in the inside of that comic.

― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

Would it really mess up traffic? If the colours are switched over, it wouldn't make any difference- the sequence would just change from top to bottom to vice versa. (that's in the UK, I don't know how it would work in the US)

― Richard Jones, Thursday, 28 May 2009 11:22 (sixteen years ago)

Red turns green but green doesn't turn red. So we're down a colour.

― CosMc (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 28 May 2009 11:26 (sixteen years ago)

Is that Tales of the Unexpected available in a B&W reprint, I wonder. "The Day White Turned to White!"

― chap, Thursday, 28 May 2009 12:24 (sixteen years ago)

Red turns green but green doesn't turn red. So we're down a colour.

There's so many of those buggers anyway, so who cares? We could just replace red with, say, indigo. It's not like it had much use before.

― Tuomas, Thursday, 28 May 2009 12:36 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dcE1D7cyBDQ/SoYZ02AviVI/AAAAAAAAAFY/Nzn3KGjvxp8/s400/super.bmp

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

I kinda want to know the context to this, but on the other hand it's perfect as it is.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

Oh yes.

― The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

Context, according to Livejournal, is "It's from a series of 'imaginary stories' in which Kal-El's rocket was found by Thomas and Martha Wayne. They adopted him, named him Bruce and he grew up to be a mild-mannered librarian who works with and romances Barbara Gordon."
http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/16278.html

― buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:22 (fourteen years ago)

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