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What's his current deal?

What happened to space policeman Hawkman from the Hawkworld series I used to like?

Is he a good character? When is he best used? etc etc yes it's one of those threads.

Perhaps most importantly does he have any really stupid Silver Age covers? And is his lack of same his undoing??

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/1623/400/1623_4_16.jpg

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course he had stupid Silver Age covers!

I saw some awful 8-minute Hawkman short (on Cartoon Network's Boomerang!) where Hawkman fought some Brit-sounding pygmy alien duo that transported him (and his hawk!) to some other planet full of ELECTRICITY. Hawkman & two other alien folk were trapped in a cage of ELECTRICITY. The hawk went to fetch a lightning rod to take care of the ELECTRICITY. And then they went back to Earth & zapped the aliens away. Lame lame lame.

I think Hawkman's deal (thanks to Geoff Johns) is that he's predestined to fall for Hawkwoman and die @ the hands of some villain or other every single dingdongin' time. I think Johns brought him back to life in JSA - Huk, help!

The newest series (created by Johns & James Robinson, featuring art by the Identity Crisis art team before they were HOTT STARZ) was OK @ times - odd divergences into super-violence, forced soap operatics, and some decent adventuring tossed in every once in a while. I've no idea what the current creative team (Jimmy Palmiotti & Justin Gray) is doing nowadays, though I luv the current artist (Joe Bennett), & the former artist that began w/ this new writing team (Ryan Sook) is the dude sexxxing up Zatanna for Grant Morrison.

Why the hell was he teamed up w/ the Atom?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I really don't understand Hawkman at all.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I just figured out why he was teamed up w/ the Atom: GIL KANE!

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/1489/400/1489_4_31.jpg

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The current Hawkman is the original-and-best who was resurrected out of a pool of glowing light with all the memories of space cop hawkman in JSA. They had both been trapped in a special "plot device" dimension when everyone thought they were dead and had mind melded or something. There was an evil space-dictator on Thangar, so the priests magically summoned Hawkgirl (who is the reincarnation of the original haewkgirl and also her niece) and she could suck him out of the other dimension with the strength of her lurve. I think they just thought "sod all this continuity - it's by magic and he's back".

I like it when he flies down and smacks someone with his mace but am v bored of all his "oh ,I am a reincarnated pharaoh" shenanigans. Also he is kind of a tool and totally deserves the Green Arrow Finger Treatment.

I always wonder why Atom spends his time standing on Hawkman's shoulder even when there is no cause for him to be shrunk. Perhaps he loves the feel of a burly, semi naked man beneath his tiny evil feet.

― Mark C (Markco), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/1098/400/1098_4_070.jpg
http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/142/400/142_4_091.jpg

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Xpost,
The Atom is usually shrunk even when he doesn't need to be because his costume is INVISIBLE when it's normal sized. He never takes it off!

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

One neat aspect of the new Hawkman series (defintion of "neat" may vary) (& I'm not sure if this is being continued by the current creative team) are the one-off stories concerning tales of Hawkmen & Hawkwomen from the past. It's a similar thing to those one-offs in James Robinson's Starman series - JR actually wrote one about the Hawks in the wild west, and the Sleeper team (Ed Brubaker / Sean Phillips) did a noir-pulp detective story. There might've been one or two others. Regardless, it's a neat way to switch gears between main-story machinations and also keep the title from falling victim to the Missed Deadline bug - I wish more series did this, actually (even if it's just one stepped removed from Jim Shooter's sketchy "fill-in issue" MO when he was Marvel's EIC).

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds similar to the Rogues Profiles Johns does in the Flash (though they usually have some bearing on something going on).

How's this for faint praise?
http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/116/400/116_4_252.jpg

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember a comic with some other Hawkpeople being jerks and trying to destroy the world, or something. I think Grant's JLA, or possibly Animal Man???

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think it was Animal Man - I think the Hawkpeople were some of the aliens who tried to invade earth in the Invasion x-over event thing

― Mark C (Markco), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the Thanagarians are dicks.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

They're just hard-up & misunderstood. (cf. the Thangarian fem-warrior trying to mack Adam Strange in a recent issue of his mini) (phwoar)

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

This is really bothering me, can anyone pin down the Morrison (I think) ass-hawk story?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

As part of Invasion, there was an Animal Man crossover (#6), wherein AM vaguely grappled w/ a suicide-bombing Thangarian that treated his mission (to plant bomb and have parts of world go boom) as performance art. I think the Thangarian killed himself (via a slow-acting poison), & AM was left to deal w/ the bomb, which he didn't exactly do - while he phreaked out about the situation, Hawkman flew by & turned the bomb off.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

YES THAT IS TEH ONE

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha he was the fey artsy son of some big-shot Thagarian.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

And it's not like the Rannians aren't dicks, too.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

All alien races are dicks because they're imperialistic.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Pre-Emerald Dawn, Bolovax Vik (or something) (Kilowog's homeworld) was socialist. That's why the big K joined the Soviets and helped them create the Rocket Reds.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but Kilowog's people seems so snuggle-cuddly (in their cow-faced barrel-chested way). All the races whose physiology closely matches Earthling pysiology (Kryptonians, Thangarians, Rannians, the French) (tee-hee) seem to all be exaggerations of Earth's need to blow crap up and plant flags.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, yeah, Humanoid Aliens are all dicks. And Khunds, who are pretty humanoid. The Dominators (the yellow, toothy aliens that masterminded the Invasion!) are pretty nasty, but that's just because they're gross ethnic cararicatures.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

This is my main problem with titling a miniseries The Rann-Thanagar War - SO WHAT??

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

IT'S A CRISIS, THAT'S WHAT!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

But, yeah, my thoughts exactly - were it not Dave Gibbons (or someone I liked) writing it, I'd totally be pffffft about the whole thing.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it's slighty more intriguing than...
http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/792/400/792_4_050.jpg

But nowhere near as rad as...
http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/792/400/792_4_100.jpg

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

SPOILERS!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Hopefully, Gibbons is just using the R-T-W to reintroduce:
http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/792/400/792_4_103.jpg

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/792/400/792_4_050.jpg

http://www.tvtome.com/images/shows/23/7/4-9215.jpg

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you people willfully avoiding the Veitch thread I perved up just to post Hawkman covers? For shame!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Hawkman a furry?

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh boy.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

joe kubert's drawing on the early silver age hawkman strips = some of the most GRACEFUL superhero art ever

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve Lieber has talked about how his Hawkman original art pages were typically bought by bears (not furries)

― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha!
Hawkman, for all your dirty gross jack-off needs!

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, great - now this thread's pervy!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I eagerly await the return of the butt plumbbobbin' Robin pic.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

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