ROLLING SADFACE 2009

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Marvel at Dese Commix!

Good news: JLI reprints in PAPERBACK, Showcase Prez Ambush Bug, Marvel Noir might be good?

Bad news: take yr pick

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

A noted rumor mongerer claims that DiDio is making Grant Morrison change the ending of Final Crisis! In addition to pissing off James Robinson to the point that he's bailing on DC! And TONY DANIEL is going to start writing Batman!!!! What the FUCK!

David R., Tuesday, 18 November 2008 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Also:

THE MIGHTY #1
Written by Peter J. Tomasi & Keith Champagne
Art by Peter Snejbjerg

R.E.B.E.L.S. #1
Written by Tony Bedard
Art and cover by Andy Clarke

If this is what's being greenlit at DC nowadays, then I'm definitely looking forward to...

ANIMA / DAMAGE #1
Written by Adam Beechen
Art by Chris Batista

David R., Tuesday, 18 November 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

also that LA Times Didio interview spells S-H-I-T-O-N-A-S-T-I-C-K with Superman leaving Action (going to space forever is ok, tho) and possibly doing a B'Wayne-less Batman WITHOUT Grant Morrison

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Alienating James Robinson - dumb
TV Writers are way to go on comics - pretty dumb (Lets be honest, if they were any good at writing TV, they would be writing TV. Meanwhile, hey comics are not TV.)
Re-writing Grant Morrison - stupid
Taking Superman out of Action Comics - really stupid
Completely changing your two main characters into some unrecognizable form, while alienating two of those titles writers - very stupid

Batman and Superman are pretty much what sells for DC. Letting Grant Morrison write a crazy Batman story that changes the 'status quo' is one thing, but doing it and then possibly alienating him half way through is insane.

Superbatshit crazy!

earlnash, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link

JLI reprints in PAPERBACK

I think it’s a whole 2 years since the last printing of this book, which was previously in print from about 1988-1998 – ease off on the caps there

numismatic factory (sic), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

this a newer reprint series--I think the third volume just came out in HC.

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 20 November 2008 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Dear DC, my comic shop friend assures me that Grant Morrison comics sell FUCKING SHITLOADS so leave him alone, k?

Niles Caulder, Thursday, 20 November 2008 05:51 (sixteen years ago) link

come on now, show me one example of anything DC's done in the last two years to show they're at all interested in selling FUCKING SHITLOADS of comics...

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 20 November 2008 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link

How odd it would be if I only bought Geoff Johns DC comics. But I can kind of see that happening next year. It doesn't even seem that interesting in a Countdown-clusterfuck kind of way.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

this a newer reprint series

it's really not, the exact same issues are in it as in 1988 and 2002.

numismatic factory (sic), Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone got any links to those DiDio stupidity rumours beyond the above?

James Morrison, Thursday, 20 November 2008 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link

it's really not, the exact same issues are in it as in 1988 and 2002.

Yes, but I think the gist is that DC is going to continue issuing trades of the new hardcovers, which is unprecedented. And before you point it out: yes, I know there was also a second (currently out of print) trade. But there will probably be a third and a fourth and a fifth trade, as well, which will probably include JLE and JLQ stuff. So I support this particular retread.

Deric W. Haircare, Friday, 21 November 2008 06:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not believing anything until they get to vol 15 or whatever!

numismatic factory (sic), Friday, 21 November 2008 07:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I could go for a new printing of 'The Great Darkness Saga' as I never see it in stores and it's like $30+ online.

Chelvis, Friday, 21 November 2008 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I hope Vol 15 is the G.Jones JLE

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Friday, 21 November 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Speaking of Giffen: proof that J.M. DeMatteis may have been the comic genius behind JLI? or just, y'know, as the "brainfarts" tag suggest, he's just not trying/edtiing here.

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Friday, 21 November 2008 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link

more Didiocy

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Friday, 21 November 2008 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"I could go for a new printing of 'The Great Darkness Saga' as I never see it in stores and it's like $30+ online."

I picked up a bunch of 80s Legion and found a big chunk of them at a buck or less. I was kind of happy that most of those were not worth that much money, but there are some that are kind of expensive once it gets into the baxter series (which to me is more than like $2 or $3 bucks an issue). The same is true of the DeMatteis/Giffen/Maguire Justice League issues, as they are pretty cheap as back issues and hold up pretty good.

I'm kind of liking that a bunch of the 80s back issues are not worth that much, as that is the stuff I really want to read again.

Freaking Amazing Spider-man is an exception, criminy some of that stuff is crazy expensive and Marvel is too dense to reprint the Roger Stern/JR JR stuff, which is of course is the run I want to re-read.

earlnash, Saturday, 22 November 2008 03:11 (sixteen years ago) link

gd stuff abt why DC sucked in the 90s here:

http://whenwillthehurtingstop.blogspot.com/2008/11/qed-yes-that-is-perhaps-most-obscure.html

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 22 November 2008 09:32 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/120801-Rucka-Action.html

After reading this interview with Greg Rucka, who is going to be writing the Superman-less Action title, I'm beginning to think the story lines for both Batman and Superman are kind of being setup with a benefit to maybe get them out of the way for The Darkest Night story being the big series for next summer.

This way the center DC Universe story for 2009 will be based around Green Lantern and bringing back The Flash, who I bet will both be center to whatever Johns has cooked up for his DC zombie and kaleidoscope ring krew epic. It's DC, if Batman and Superman were around, Batman would be telling people what to do and Superman would just fly the bad guy into the sun. With both of them gone, it's all about Snapper Carr.

earlnash, Friday, 5 December 2008 07:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh well, maybe there'll be something good happening in Marvel?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 5 December 2008 08:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahaha Andrew, let's ponder that thought for a second (and I say that as a total Marvel/X-Men whore)

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Friday, 5 December 2008 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

BMB: Absolutely. From page one of Dark Reign Special. Because we know what Doom wants, we know what Namor wants, we know what Loki wants, we know what everybody else wants. But Emma has wants as well. And is she willing to go this far to make them happen, in this climate?

And I'd like to publicly speak to Joss Whedon, whom I haven't spoken to about this. I'd like to tell Joss, I'm not going to undo all the work you did to make her awesome.

:(

I believe there was a certain writer before Whedon who made her fabulous...

Amadeo, Friday, 5 December 2008 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Daredevil: Noir, really?

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

lol I Love Redundancy

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

also, Superman, now starring Mon-El???

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

way to boost sales!

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I think DC is smoking some strong stuff by publishing pretty much Superman and Batman all year pretty much without Superman or Batman, only in comics that would be thought about as some kind of a good idea.

earlnash, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Copped from the Brubaker's Captain America-less Captain America. Which I love, btw.

Barack History Month (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 01:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Tony Daniel /= Ed Brubaker, not even as an artist

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 01:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Plus, (sticking with Batman) Cap Am's supporting cast didn't all already have their own low-selling solo mags before usurping Our Hero's starring role.

That said, Rucka's Action might be good. Wasn't he supposed to have done a similar (Nightwing & Flamebird) story in Supergirl a couple of years back but then didn't?

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Yah, those are both good points.

I dunno nuttin' bout no nightwing and flamebird (I don't even know who flamebird is.)

Barack History Month (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 01:59 (fifteen years ago) link

what happened to superman?

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

he died

my prefab arse just falls apart (sic), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Tony Daniel /= Ed Brubaker, not even as an artist

o man I would have bought Morrison's Batman if Brubaker was drawing it!

my prefab arse just falls apart (sic), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Captain America has never been as big a seller as Batman, so it is a bit different. My theory is that Ed Brubaker had to kill Cap to cover up for his worse sin of bringing back Bucky. I guess Morrison maybe was screwing with that same thing with his Vader like appearance of Batman's dad in R.I.P.

At least going by what I have read in the Batman books and with The Question, Greg Rucka is a pretty decent comic writer. I don't doubt that either book might be 'readible', but it seems mighty peculiar to have the two main Superman titles without Superman and seemingly planned for a year. I was around when they tried Action weekly back in the 80s and that thing was a big flop, even though a couple of the stories were really OK from what I can recall. I just don't think there are enough guys over 35 to want to buy a Guardian and Mon-El Superman book.

Either way, it is all about getting the big 3 out of the way so that supposedly DC can star Green Lantern and Flash.

I guess I am just grouchy as I liked both the Batman and Superman books and this whole thing doesn't really interest me and like Johns setup in Green Lantern and JSA, it is just way too much overkill.

Eh it doesn't really matter I suppose, I'll just read something else. I've been getting the bug to go and read some old 80s First comics like Starslayer and Grim Jack anyway. I'd also like to read the latter half of the original Grendel run again.

earlnash, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Eh it doesn't really matter I suppose, I'll just read something else.

That's pretty much the 2009 prognosis on DC for me too. Until Moz comes back to Batman, at least.

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 03:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Ditto.

James Morrison, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 05:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Also: Andrew Kreisberg leaving New Krypton after ONE issue? Yikes.

Douglas, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link

If his other comics are like that Batman Confidential storyline he just finished, they might be better off. The guy had the Joker drop some lame TV show line in the last issue of the current storyline. It was like the Joker saying something to Batman like 'don't have a cow man since you missed Grey's Anatomy' or something similarly lame. Criminy I'd rather read Superboy Prime knocking on the doors of reality with Batmite and a marching band doing a walk through on a comic than read some dumb cloying line like that one. I don't know, it seems like to me that DC has this thing all plotted out and they just want someone to make it happen, which unless you are Roy Thomas or Len Wein and this is 1972, it isn't going to work out that hot.

earlnash, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 06:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey, give Tony Daniel some credit. After all, he did write this acclaimed classic from the late nineties:

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n6/n33353.jpg

Wally West, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Something awesome is in the works--perhaps a SOLO-type book?
Allred + Gaiman on Metamorpho

Kyle Baker on Hawkman!

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

KB's badassery never fails to leave my big dumb mouth hanging open.

Dear Tacos, how are you? I am fine. The weather is nice. I miss yo (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"I try not to spend more than four hours on a page."

JESUS FUCK!

Magdalen Goobers (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Can I get a "Fappo!"?

Matt M., Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.comicon.com/resources/pulse/images_07a/1kylehawk3.jpg

"I try not to spend more than four hours on a page."
JESUS FUCK!

Indeed

James Morrison, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

that looks like one of the "more than four hours" ones

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link

There's more panels in that than there is in an average issue of the DARK REIGN crossover book of your choice..

Matt M., Thursday, 19 February 2009 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link

JESUS FUCK!

Baker put himself through school by inking Marvel books on a Mon-Fri turnaround.

I Was A Taoist Intellectual (sic), Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link

grinning, thumbs up hawkman looks like grinning, thumbs up osama from the rightwing cartoonists thread!

go back to ur game of Croquette ye posho's (stevie), Thursday, 19 February 2009 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link

God bless Kyle Baker!

In other news I have been catching up via the, ahem, electronic library on some stuff that I neglected to buy when it came out. One of these is the DC Universe Holiday Special, which contains an Aquaman story actually written by Dan DiDio! Holy shit, is it bad. DD seems to be Sadface Patient Zero, which is a surprise to no-one. Has he actually written anything else?

(cue someone telling me that he's been writing for years under the pseudonym "Kyle Baker", and me crying all the way home)

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link

He wrote some crap in the Halloween SPecial about Charlie Brown and Linus all grown up to become Satanists, with Blue Devil in it.

James Morrison, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2009/0309/51w-aGE65cL._SS500_.jpg

Something of a "long queue for the indie club toilets" vibe on this one

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 04:01 (fifteen years ago) link

http://comics.ign.com/articles/961/961044p1.html

Morriquitely Batrobin! The crew I picked this up from are bitching about Frank's faces, but I really like the batmobiles look on these pages.

Thrills as Cheap as Gas (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I think those same people would bitch about the sky being blue.

Man, that stuff looks great in black and white.

Matt M., Wednesday, 11 March 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

So does DC have this yearlong weekly title stuff out of their system after Trinity?

WmC, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Also does anyone know what's happening in Trinity? I felt kind of bad about not even reading the CBRs, as it seemed to be semi-crucial to the big story, but dear god it was terrible.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 22 March 2009 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Last I checked, they had all turned into super-gods of a parallel earth populated by a race that's a cross between Cookie Monster and Jar Jar Binks.

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 22 March 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Has there EVER been a convincing alien race in a DC/Marvel comic? They're all just one-dimensional or humans in fancy dress (or both).

James Morrison, Monday, 23 March 2009 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link

THE LAST DAYS OF ANIMAL MAN #2
Written by Gerry Conway
Buddy Baker’s powers have picked the wrong time to desert him – a thousand feet above the San Diego skyline! He’ll have to rely on the help of a most unlikely ally if he wants to survive his rematch with Bloodrage. But there’s more than one homicidal maniac out there with designs on his life, and the Mirror Master’s daughter won’t settle for the scraps Bloodrage plans on leaving behind!

Bloodrage? Really?

IRL Consequences by Godley & Creme (sic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link

It's what the kids like these days!

With their rap music and their internets and their Clockmen.

Amadeo, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Can't believe you dinguses are hung up on L&O hacks & aren't plotzing over WEDNESDAY COMICS -- bastards made me delurk & everything

David R., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey, that does look interesting: and the big, floppy size is a good way to frustrate (not stop, I'd guess) scanners.

James Morrison, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 07:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I was down just for the Kyle Baker Hawkman pages, the rest of the lineup is dece enough to get a semillon for (though filled with bonekillers too obv - ie yay Gibbons if drawing, boo if writing, yay Pope, yay Simonson, yay Amanda Connor drawing Supergirl, boo Palmiotti writing Supergirl, yay Gaiman on Metamorpho, yay Allred on Metamorpho, boo Gaiman and Allred on Metamorpho etc etc...)

IRL Consequences by Godley & Creme (sic), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

ALSO:

In yesterday’s episode, host Blair Butler announced that writer Kathryn Immonen (Patsy Walker: Helcat) and artist Sara Pichelli (NYX) will pick up Runaways after Terry Moore and Humberto Ramos’ run ends in April. David Lafuente (Ultimate Spider-Man) will provide the covers.

David R., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

as of this week, the only superhero book on my pull list is Captain America. WTF is up with that???

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

also, I am lonely on Saturdays.

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Jesus Creeping Christ!

Dwayne McDuffie: I wrote a scene set at their gravesite that I recently had to quickly rewrite into something not very good.

Matthew Murray: Do you actually enjoy writing JLA? It just seems to be constant editorial rewrites and bad art.

McDuffie: No, I don’t.

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha, those posts kinda transformed themselves into the most recent issue. "You know what, this is fuckin' bullshit! I'm breaking up the band!"

WmC, Saturday, 28 March 2009 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

DC is pretty much a train wreck.

Funny thing is that I guess McDuffie is actually making his living as a TV writer, so JLA is the only comic work he is doing at this time. I don't know his comics, but that is one bad situation to try and make good comics.

When I started back into reading some monthly super hero books was around the time ONE YEAR LATER happened. The Marvel comic stuff seemed really impenetrable to me (and it was the Civil War so everything was sold out anyway), so I started on a bunch of the new starting up DC books. I really liked the Batman and Superman titles, but the others just never caught with me. Getting caught up I read Infinite Crisis and Identity Crisis and man those are some hard to read titles. I was kind of hoping it was a good starting point like when I got really into DC comics in the wake of the first Crisis, but other than the books I mentioned, I was wrong.

I've come to the conclusion like the other 12,000 angry fan boys that their EIC Dan Didio is pretty much an idiot. I get the idea from interviews he is pretty much a failed comic writer who is somehow trying to sculp this whole line. I don't know what he did in TV, but I bet it was shit. I can definitely see why so many talented writers and artists have said fuck it and quit dealing with them. Marvel seems to have more of a total line storyline going on, but yet at the same time they seem to let their creators have some freedom to tell some stories and yet give the fanbase what they want.

It's kind of sad to see DC comics overall kind of suck (even though there are a couple of exceptions).

earlnash, Sunday, 29 March 2009 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm glad you posted that McDuffie interview snippet, Doc Supes. It explains why that last JLA issue was such a magnificently shitty waste of time.

Manuel Doritos (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 29 March 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

:(

If Snotboogie always stole the money, why'd you let him play? (Dr. Superman), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

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(The title on the listings page will be removed in just a few minutes.)

????

James Morrison, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link

:(

Bostin' Legal (sic), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link

:?

Matt M., Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I sure hope his kid is ok.

Vincent and Julio Gallo (Oilyrags), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

n'rama:
"On the 'Legion', I have a lot of homework to do before I'm ready to hit the keyboard the first time," Levitz said, adding that he's going to have to do a lot of research.

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 10 September 2009 00:20 (fifteen years ago) link

shockingly low expectations of Noozarama reader's comprehension levels aside, I wonder if Levitz's return to Legion will be awesomely awesome as his return to JSA was?

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 13 September 2009 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Your 2010 JLA:

CONGORILLA
DONNA TROY
MON-EL
BATMAN
DR. LIGHT
GREEN ARROW
GREEN LANTERN
THE ATOM
CYBORG
STARFIRE
THE GUARDIAN

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 19 September 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Who will wield the shield? I'm not sure if that's supposed to be a throwback to Stan the Man era hucksterism or if it's some kind of American Idol reference.

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

That quote is interesting, but I'm not sure things haven't been this way in general. Marvel's always been more practical, financially, in its publishing. They've been their own company until just recently - compared to DC's corporate child status, though now they're in a similar boat. Despite the lesser films Marvel definitely has been doing a better job in terms of overall throughput of their films/tv series/video products.

Nhex, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
one month passes...

Does Johns not seem to have thought through his five-years-in-the-making epic or is he just awful at talking about it?
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091229-geoff-johns-blackest-night.html

Johns: Well, the blackness isn't death. The blackness just is. It's existence. It's emptiness. Death isn't really a force.

there's a better way to browse (Dr. Superman), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link


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