House Of M (Bendis! X-Men! Avengers! MARVEL CRISIS!)

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Or: what Marvel EIC Joe Quesada does when he's not bad-mouthing comic fans on the internet.

Would you like some promo teasing to go w/ your cover sneak-peek?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe you used the C-word!

I'm interested, though. I suspect that -- like with Avengers Disassembled -- it's something I'll read after the fact, or catch up towards the end.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

This kind of thing is what the cbr format was invented for as far as I'm concerned.

I like the title.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Except they should actually have called it House of Mmmmmmm and have everyone grow goatees. And stroke them.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Woah! Wanda's trippin her nutsack in a frenzy of dikplay

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I think she's trying to play Q-Bert.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

CBR is another strong possibility, yeah, which reminds me: Tom, what's your source?! I never see recent stuff anymore, with suprnova and demonoid gone, and zcult being weird.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I use DC++, I forget the name of the hub but if you search by description it's called "Comics and more....", you need to be sharing 5 Gb though, which I get round by my extensive New Universe collection.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Also if you've got privileges the comics room on slsk is fine though less instant-gratification.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

which I get round by my extensive New Universe collection.

*BOGGLE*

If you have the complete set of Psi-Force and DP-7, OH MY GOD!!!!!!!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I have the complete DP7, the Pitt and Draft, Star Brand post-Pitt, a small run of Justice - no Psi-Force, though I'll get round to them.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG OMG OMG! (Justice & Star Brand ahoyhoy!) (GET ONE MERC!!!!)

I've tried connecting to the ILX DC++ hub, but I don't think I can because of network firewallery, which b'lowz.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm usually on ILX at the weekends, username Groke, I haven't worked out how 'away' switches work on DC++ so if you talk to me don't be surprised to get no reply. (but grab away)

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Demonoid's not gone.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it back a second time? It was gone, then it came back, then it was gone again. (Hmm, web page says "server too busy" now, which is a good sign, then.)

Never used slsk, but I'll have to get the ILX DC++ thing going this weekend -- I'll put some stuff on hard drive first so I've got decent stuff to share. (I have complete runs of Avengers, Hulk, and Defenders if anyone would like me to put one or more of those on. Other stuff too, those are just the biggies.)

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh, Avengers & Hulk. I still haven't been through most of the CBRs I've already D/Led, tho (& will probably hold off on that until I have the scratch to buy a new monitor that won't distend my eyes w/ its random twerking).

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I haven't either -- don't have a particularly big hard drive, so stuff that I figure I want around, I tend to put on disc (currently languishing on the hard drive while I decide if I really need to put it on permanent media: Ghost Rider vol 1 and porn version of Alice in Wonderland with the chick from Meatballs).

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I know which one I'd pick!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

(HINT: It involves something HOTT!)

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I am so bad at archiving. I do it with comics and vids (cos theyre such huge files) but my MP3s are an ever-respawning nightmare.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

My mp3 discs are almost all labelled things like "mp3s June 2003," so I have to try to remember when I was listening to something. Thirty discs in or so I realized how terrible this was as a labelling system.

That's the thing about Torrents, downloading things by the album instead of the song means I can at least make a disc of all Neil Young or whatever.

I still haven't listened to that ginormous Depeche Mode singles collection.

The ILC ratings system:

Grant Morrison's The Bunnymen of Lidsville: "Oh man, I can already smell this is gonna be on the best-of poll, has anyone seen any preview pages? I'm putting the money aside now for the Seaguy/Bunnymen crossover annual."

Brian Michael Bendis's House of M: "That reminds me, what's the best way to read this for free, possibly a few months after the fact?"

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

My two main uses of CBR are to re-read stuff I had when I was smaller and to keep up with what people on ILC are talking about.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

And hey, where is the best-of poll anyway?

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, mostly I use it to get stuff like those Avengers runs -- back issues I have no hope of assembling myself (and often stuff I owned once but have lost to moves and siblings). Or stuff from periods when I wasn't reading much or wasn't reading one company or another -- finally read the Invisibles, a bunch of X-Men miniseries, that kind of thing.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You mean the best-of 2K4 poll I've inadvertently been sleeping on?

That's a good question!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, lemme take this opportunity to say that you folks CBRing big ticket items & supporting the small-press-like stuff that no one else likes are killing the Direct Market, and you should be given keys to the city. And or shot on sight. I'm still working that out.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

We have a better perspective now on 2004! We're not fresh from our breakup with December. We can look back on the relationship with a keen, clear eye, and fairly evaluate Seaguy against She-Hulk.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, that was my MASTER PLAN all along! And I would've gotten away w/ it, too!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I have the complete DP7, the Pitt and Draft

*SCRABBLE*

I must get on this when I get home.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm gonna grab those too -- I'm really curious/nervous about whether DP7 is still as good as I remember it.

My comics dream job is to bring back Justice.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

BUMP!

So, I guess, according to the June solicits, there's going to be a bevy of regular-title crossovers AND some House of M-related minis, too (including a Spidey one co-written by Mark Waid & Tom Peyer). Boondoggle! And, just to really whet your whistle, IT BEGINS .... in Excalibur!!!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Also - I guess there was some convention talk (I forget if it's House of M-related) that there might be a meeting of the regular MU and the Ultimate MU. Wheeeeeeeeeee!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll pick up the Waid/Peyer one -- Hourman is my favorite cancelled DC series, and I don't remember having seen much from Peyer since.

This isn't the previously mentioned Waid Spidey series, though, right?

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Vic Fluro was always an hourman booster too but I never 'got' it (though I like the character).

Apologies to anyone who went on DC++ seeking DP7 goodness - a pet health crisis (sorry CRISIS) (recovering nicely thankyou) kept me away from the computer during my normal comics leeching hours.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Awww. Glad to hear your pet's OK, Tom - my sister lost one of her dogs a few weeks ago. Her kids (my nephews, duh) were inconsolable.

The Waid / Wieringo Spidey is still set for Amazing, as far as I know / wish. This mini's being drawn, BTW, by Salvador Larocca.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

(Well she's not 100% OK yet - getting better but still very fussy about food and a bit lethargic. More vet bills may be in the offing but the major worry seems to be over.)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, I wasn't on either -- I got a "oh this is good, but oh my God do I have a lot of work to do right now now now" call while we were on vacation, and had to come home early and chain myself to the laptop. I'm not sure "having to be on the computer" necessarily explains not opening a particular program, but I didn't want to deal with remembering how to set it up and everything.

When I'm a little more organized, I'll post a list or something of what I have so I can shift any requests to the hard drive.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

DAMN YOU, FIREWALL! There will be ... A CRISIS! IF I cannot BREAK through your INFERNAL FORTRESS of HATE! *SKRA-KA-POW!*

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm on DC++ now, and will be tomorrow too I'd think (since I'm getting a cold and have nothing better to do but sniffle and read old comics.)

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 27 March 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

On topic post alert!

A rundown of all the House of M shenanigans, including the 3 (3!) minis connected to the main mini, and all the xover issues. Six parts to be (seemingly) written by Chris Claremont! Wheeee!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 28 March 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

This might be almost as good as Secret Wars.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

Meaning not very good at all.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Yes. Am I right in thinking that there was a hiatus in the sort of giant-mega-crossovers that require (but never receive) lock-step precision to work? I didn't see them much over the last ten years or so, and now we're tripping over them (this, Avengers Disassembled, Infinite Crisis). Is Age of Apocaplypse smaller and more self-contained this time around? Though I think over the last ten years X-Men continuity has become so screwed that the goal is that no book contradicts stuff that happened in that book.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

DC stuck with the 'summer crossover' thing longer than Marvel did but you're right, there haven't been any for several years. House of M seems to be a full-blooded return to the format (with the overdue twist of having the bullshit crossovers for some key players in separate miniseries), DC seem to be showing a bit more thought about how to do it - I didn't fully read Identity Crisis beyond #2 but the few crossovers I've seen have dealt with the implications of the story rather than being missing pieces or baroque retellings, and even better have tied in with the ongoing titles concerned. Similarly I suspect a couple of salient facts about Countdown will be all any non-reader needs to make sense of ongoing-title fallout.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Identity Crisis was more a big self-contained story than a crossover. It tried to influence other comics rather than invade them, a mix of providing tools for other writers to use (good, in theory) and taking away other tools by killing characters (bad). Though the second half seems mercifully ignored, as Sue Dibny was not-very-dead in another comic by the time the last issue of Identity Crisis came out.

But basically, yeah, Marvel in returning to the kind of rubbish that lead to their penury shocker.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

(I don't really mean that it's always a bad idea to kill a character, but I think you'd need a bloody good reason to put them permanently beyond use/subject to a resurrection, and it was missing in IC)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if it's hypocritical of me to actually like that IC killed characters in a semi-haphazard "life is not a sequential plot-based continuum" fashion that was entirely plot-based. Not that I like characters getting killed, but there seemed to be more consequence behind these deaths than the usual "HI DERE" resurrection-in-waiting shenanigans.

And I really don't have any problem w/ this x-over thing, per se, as I'll only be buying the bits that interest me (and/or come into titles I'm already reading), and am not worried that I'll miss much of anything by skipping related issues of Excalibur and Uncanny X-Men. I mind it in terms of the self-absorbed MEMBERS ONLY atmosphere the Marvel Universe gleefully prides itself on, but I'm a card-carrying member of that club, so nyah nyah nyah.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh don't get me wrong - my first Marvel comic was Secret Wars, my first (enjoyed) DC comic was Legends, whopping great x-over events are in my bloodstream and I'm excited. But it's always, always been the main titles that have got me excited, the tie-ins have been a minefield of trying to work out which might actually be important or not.

(It's interesting to me that two of the main titles to spin out of that first post-Crisis crossover were JLI and Suicide Squad, both of which brought a different strain of 'realism' to shared-universe superheroics. Superheroes as dicking-about workmates; super-characters as all-too-mortal players in a dangerous game. It's a shame that the last post-Crisis crossover seems to be establishing the latter at the expense of the former.)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost - But the thing of consequence, the thing that's actually making echoes, has nothing to do with the dead people. Or so I guess. I haven't actually seen any effects, but I imagine they're about Will Batman's Brain Uncover The Team's Terrible Secret? The actual murder mystery was crumpled up and tossed away as quickly as in Avengers Disassembled - "Who is it? What is the motive behind - Oh it's the crazy lady. Next!"

I just realised that I forgot a few "light" DC crossovers in recent years: that one where the kids grew up and the adults turned into babies, and DC one million. I quite enjoyed the first, and will continue to think the second was brilliant until I pick up the TPB and realise that all the non-Chase tie-ins were pants.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

haha Marvel actually try to do right by this, as they keep the Scarlet Witch in currency and send her off for reintegration to society at the hands of, er, Chris Claremont.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

I'd rather she stay loopy if the other option is some unearned redemption and reinvigoration at the heavy subliterate hand of CC.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

(me calling CC subliterate = me throwing stones at my own pot-black noggin.)

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

I didn't realize that they'd killed Hawkeye until issue #2 of Runaways Vol. 2.

― The Ghost of Tangents (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

They offed Hawkeye, Vision, Antman, AND Jack of Hearts TWICE! Rude!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

but isn't Hawkeye that sword dude in Thunderbolts?

I don't understand comics anymore :(

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

The only place I saw that Hawkeye / Swordsman thing addressed was in GLA, which has me thinking A) it's probably true and B) Marvel is LOVING Dan Slott if they're letting him get away w/ tricks like that.

BTW - see what the House of M is doing to Marvel.com!!!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

There are 8 issues, right?

It'll probabaly be a year 'til I get to read it!

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 4 June 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

Maybe it's related, maybe not, but fudge it, let's see how long it takes before Huk realizes I'm posting this here:

ED BRUBAKER DOES DOCTOR DOOM!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

NOTHING ESCAPES THE WATCHER

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

GAH

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Ed Brubaker and Dan Slott are making me hate myself for liking Marvel!

― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Wow! I'm looking forward to that Brubaker Doom thing!

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

brubaker's doing a good job with Captain America, a character I never really cared about in the past. And Doom is perhaps my favorite Marvel villain--high hopes.

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...

Does anyone still care?

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

I never cared in the first place!

So, can someone give a rundown on what's happened? I flipped through an issue that had Meggan sacrificing herself to a glowy thing to save the universe or something stupid like that; is Marvel really going to take the "Everything's changed because a peripheral third-tier character who hasn't been in regular print since 1999 IS DEAD OH NOES" line?

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Basically it's an alternate world job, and every issue is Bendis putting off doing the plot so he can write more kewl dialogue scenes, never has a writer been so totally unsuited to doing a big crossover.

That said I've been quite enjoying it.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I've ever read a Bendis story that made me want to pick up the next issue.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

In terms of the actual plot, this week's issue is the BIG WHODUNNIT REVEAL, which I think quite a lot of people have already guessed, but when I read it I can give you a better summary.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

So I'm wondering how long it will be before they retcon the big thing in this series. Six months? Eight months? It only took them five months to undo Planet X, and people actually LIKED that story.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Has the Big Thing happened yet?

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

The Big Thing has happened, although it hasn't quite been explained yet (I assume the explanation's happening next issue). In three words: "No more mutants."

― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Well, wasn't the thing that they were drastically lowering the number of mutants in the Marvel Universe, thus SEVERELY FUCKING UP THE PREMISE OF THEIR BEST SELLING SERIES?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Is Vision okay?

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

...

So, um, are they cancelling a whole bunch of books or something? Or are all of the mutants getting shunted into an alternate universe?

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

so much better than the infinite stuff. which isn't, granted, saying much.

― bucky wunderlick (bucky), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Does any of this relate to the upcoming Robt. Kirkman MARVEL ZOMBIES, which will be awesome?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

DUDE I CARE SO MUCH I BOUGHT THE ISSUE TODAY!!

The whole 'no more mutants' thing I have to take with a pinch of salt. I'm thinking what it really means is 'no more mutants who aren't accredited X-Men', because that would be slightly more interesting than 'Wolverine now got his powers through a cosmic ray space flight'. Although slightly less interesting than 'mutant = the new gay/black/female/tribe from over the hill with the odd way of grunting'.

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Judging by the recent Newsarama interview, this is all because Joe Quesada thinks that people won't be able to identify with mutants as a 'minority' (read: group who is feared because the are different and the Other, although not Spiderman's Other or The Others from Lost) unless they are also a numerical minority that is rilly rilly small.

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

Which is mental.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

SHUT UP TOM You do not understand that the reason there is racism is because only 247 people are not white in the world!!!

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Admittedly there are only 3 gays in the Marvel Universe so there is a precedent.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Northstar (RIP)
Karma
That bartender who was hitting on Karma in New Mutants
Iceman (heh)

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Two of teh Young Avengers.

PH34R THE PROLIFERATION!

I'd forgotten Karma was.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Ha - some folks on various comic boards were pheeling the ph34r re: Young Avengers, along the lines of, "Why do you ghey up my superheroes?"

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

or...

"I don't mind them being gay as long as they never kiss or express any affection or mention it ever."

― Mark C (Markco), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Mark C wins the fleshlight.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Does any of this relate to the upcoming Robt. Kirkman MARVEL ZOMBIES, which will be awesome?
-- Huk-L (handsomishbo...), October 13th, 2005. (later)

Nah, I think that's got something to do with the present UFF story that has the U Universe Reed Richards tricked into building some sort of transdimensional transporter by what the reader thinks is 616 Reed Richards but turns out to be his counterpart in a universe where eeryone's been zombified.

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

So are they seriously trying to turn all of the mutants into cosmic ray recipiants?? How can this possibly work?

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

...as long as they never kiss or express any affection or mention it ever.

http://www.televisioni.altervista.org/melroseplace/image012.jpg

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Some reasons why NO MORE MUTANTS from Joey Q (& click here for preview pages from Deadly Genesis, an X-mini written by ED BRUBAKER):

There was a point where every new Marvel book I cracked open had a new mutant or mutant team lurking just around the corner, although for the times they were what the fans were enjoying, ultimately it was going to get out of hand. It's understandable from a creative standpoint, because these characters were selling, but in the long run, the metaphor, the idea of X-Men, was being slowly broken.
What the world of mutants also does is that it gives writers an easy out. Now I'm not calling anybody lazy, I'm just saying that the ability to create mutants does give creators one easy out when it comes to creating a new character.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, now writers have to fill a page with a laboratory accident. YOU'RE A HARD MAN JOEY Q

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Friday, 14 October 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

It's understandable from a creative standpoint, because these characters were selling

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 15 October 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

He really doesn't grasp the concept of the X-Men at all, does he? He also doesn't seem to get that he's totally fucking over lots of writers by theoretically eliminating SO MANY STORY POSSIBILITIES in which new characters are created to use the mutant concept in different ways, to try different metaphors. Peter Milligan must be pretty annoyed!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 15 October 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

I've been looking for this solution to the mutant problem for some time now.

Is Quesada actually from the Marvel Universe and he's escaped into ours?

― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

i noticed that quote! it sounds like something an evil senator would say

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

I found a t0rr3nt with all the crossed-over titles, but it's 600 MB. SHOULD I TAKE THEE PLUNGE AND RUIN MY D/U RATIO?

― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 20 October 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

man, pass it up. I acquired all that stuff a while ago. The main series was poorly paced and often non-sensical. I started reading the Spider-Man tie-in, but it blew even more. At that point I just deleted everything. Preserve the ratio.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Friday, 20 October 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like House of M is something that can be gleaned quite nicely from a Wikipedia entry or two, and a quick look-through of the trade of the main series in a book store.

If nothing, the House of M miniseries had nice art by Olivier Coipel. I like that guy; I wish they'd put him on the X-Men or something.

― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Friday, 20 October 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

The HoM Wiki entries are actually what piqued my interest -- they made the whole thing sound like fun trashy twisty spandex hijinx. But now that it stinx0r : (, I will content myself with the synopses.

― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Chapters (canadian B&N) has select Marvel trades (including HofM) at 20% off or something (which probably just adjusts for the vas deferens between Can & US pricing).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 22 October 2006 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

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