artists who piss away their talent only doing covers - classic or dud

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alternatively, Brian Bolland, classic or dud

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

haha that was the only name to spring to mind when I read the title. I'm not entirely convinced that Mr Bolland does as well with images that are supposed to be sequential (see also: Kelly Jones).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 17 March 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Bolland's real actual art could be a bit stiff (though to be fair not as stiff as the various Bolland wannabes - Cliff Robinson aaargh)

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Bolland's self-written stuff gets around that, either by making the stiffness a feature (Actress And The Bishop, with the long poetry captions) or by drawing completely differently (Mr Mamoulian, with the sketchy notebook-style art)

Adam Hughes is the only other truly classic cover-pisser I can think of, though I'd still prefer him drawing comics I will buy than covers that I won't.

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Tim Sale--though he also does those Jeph Loeb minis. But his Detective covers of a few years ago were rad.

I mentioned this somewhere else, but the guy who did the She-Hulk covers was great, but great in the context of covers. His Rockwellian whimsy set a great tone, but didn't lend itself to the dialogue-heavy insides.

Dave Gibbons has done a few JSA covers lately, and some of them have been wastes of his talents, esp. the Mr. Terrifics cover. The Atom/Atom Smasher cover on the current issue is pretty rad though.

Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Glenn Fabry? I know he's done some interior art, but surely the amount is miniscule when compared to his covers?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I've often wondered how much scratch an artist makes for doing a cover.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

FWIW, I think folks like James Jean would take offense if someone equated their gorgeous cover artwork w/ "pissing away talent".

I think covers usually go for 3x-5x the price of a regular page of art (on average) (I'm just guessing), so, yeah, that's some scratch.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I took the question to mean artists who should be doing interiors as well. Because, like, Alex Ross should stick to covers. And the She-Hulk covers are great, but only as covers.
James Jean is probably the best thing about the Green Arrow title lately.

Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just thinking of Jean's work on Fables, and how I would really like to see him do an entire issue. The cover for Fables 38 is great! The last one was kinda over the top, and the issue disappointing, so I'm glad to see it back on form.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh the Fables covers are fantastic! If a little at odds with the interior art/content (too modern??).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex Ross should stick (himself in)to electrical outlets.

James Jean's goths illustration was the best thing about the last issue of Spin.

But Dave McKean takes this cake walking backwards and forwards towards the trees for the forest.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Best thing about JJ is his use of colour.

Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.jamesjean.com/illustrations/goth.jpg

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

First time I saw this illustration, I actually thought it was drawn by Yoshitaka Amano because of the color palette. One way or another, it is SHWEET.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

One of my favourite Tim Sale 'Tecs:
ihttp://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/87/400/87_4_0784.jpg

Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

'nother:
ihttp://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/87/400/87_4_0791.jpg

Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

BTW, you guys should check out JJ's sketchbooks. Wowowowowowowow.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Those aren't sketchbooks, those are like, I dunno, SWANK ART PICTURES.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/10112/200/10112_2_001.jpg

For a while, Sale's cover was my favorite one for Q&C.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Despite being sorta duddish in general, Action Comics Weekly had consistently great covers.

Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Mignola does Green Lantern!
ihttp://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/3564/400/3564_4_614.jpg
Dean Motter does Supes!
ihttp://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/3564/400/3564_4_617.jpg
Paul Chadwick does Green Lantern!
ihttp://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/3564/400/3564_4_626.jpg

Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Do covers sell comics?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

if only!

Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

a thing I really hate is when the cover to a comic is in a completely different style to the interior art. I feel like I am being sold a pup (except that I would quite like a pup).

Back to Bolland - he did some great Judge Dredd stuff, surely on this we can agree. But then the lure of yankee dollar means he sticks to covers.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 18 March 2005 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't Bolland's main problem that he's so slow? I read that the Killing Joke took him a year. A year. JRJR must laugh at stuff like that.

David N (David N.), Saturday, 19 March 2005 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Two years, I think.

And Leee, McKean's comics destroy his covers in terms of quality (and he gave up both at around the same time. except for the childrens' books with Gaiman, where he does both...)

kit, Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:14 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

Has Tim Bradshaw done much illustration? His covers for the Punisher Max series are really wicked. I get the idea that he has not done much, as I couldn't find much about him on the net.

Art Adams is another guy that has done a bunch of cool covers and only a handful of actual issues of comics. I saw a couple of illustrations of Adams in a couple of the Hellboy and Sin City trade paperbacks, but I don't think he does that much anymore but he did a bunch of covers in the 80s for Marvel.

earlnash, Thursday, 22 November 2007 02:57 (eighteen years ago)

Have you ever seen Tim Bradshaw do anything that wasn't a traced photo of a mate standing in front of a wall?

Art Adams is definitely known as a cartoonist rather than a cover artist.

energy flash gordon, Thursday, 22 November 2007 03:17 (eighteen years ago)

I dream of the day that they give Tara McPherson her own comic book, instead of her doing covers once in awhile (see Thessaly and The Witching).

Mordechai Shinefield, Thursday, 22 November 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Does Arthur Suydam do anything but zombie covers anymore?

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 22 November 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

if McPherson wanted to be a cartoonist, "she" could give "herself" her own comic book. that she hasn't suggests she doesn't.

energy flash gordon, Thursday, 22 November 2007 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

If you think Art Adams is known for covers only, you probably haven't read much of 80s Marvel. He was my favourite artist back then (check the X-Men/New Mutants Asgard crossover or the original Longshot miniseries for proof).

Tuomas, Friday, 23 November 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

How would McPherson gives herself her own book?

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 23 November 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I think he's saying that she's a he.

Leee, Friday, 23 November 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Well, then he's wrong. Cause she's a she.

Mordechai Shinefield, Saturday, 24 November 2007 03:10 (eighteen years ago)

At least in the 80s, That one X-men annual and the Longshot mini-series was about the only stuff I thought Art Adams ever did other than bunches of covers.

earlnash, Saturday, 24 November 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

How would McPherson gives herself her own book?

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/k/katz-jack/katz_jack2.jpg http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/2424/200/2424_2_0001.jpg http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/20003/200/20003_2_011.jpg

energy flash gordon, Saturday, 24 November 2007 05:31 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.comicsreporter.com/images/uploads/kingcat67_thumb.gifhttp://www.srbissette.com/images/taboo1.jpg

energy flash gordon, Saturday, 24 November 2007 05:34 (eighteen years ago)

wow, fuck a nu-bbcode

energy flash gordon, Saturday, 24 November 2007 05:39 (eighteen years ago)

I suppose I should feel PWN'd. But I don't really get it... are you saying that there are enough independent comics that if she really wanted to, she could make her own comic? Cause the commercial work she's done (Sandman properties and Fables properties) suggests she likes working with an established ethos. Whateva.

Mordechai Shinefield, Saturday, 24 November 2007 08:59 (eighteen years ago)

Those are all self published, not merely independent. And hey, who wouldn't want to duplicate the raging success of Big Numbers or Tyrant?

Oilyrags, Saturday, 24 November 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

That's kind of a moot point anyway -- she does have a short comic in her portfolio.

Leee, Saturday, 24 November 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

Cause the commercial work she's done (Sandman properties and Fables properties) suggests she likes working with an established ethos. Whateva.

Does any of it suggest that she really wants to be a struggling cartoonist, not a well-paid commercial illustrator and it's only THE MAN that's holding her back? (If so, then surely self-publishing an issue or two of comics would serve to demonstrate to THE MAN how she is in fact capable of doing comics?)

And hey, who wouldn't want to duplicate the raging success of Big Numbers or Tyrant?

Tyrant #1 moved about 40k, Big Numbers something like 80,000 IIRC. I can't think of any self-publisher bar Smith who wouldn't, and he'd still be pretty impressed to pull those on RASL.

energy flash gordon, Monday, 26 November 2007 05:38 (eighteen years ago)

I was referring to their long, celebrated runs.

Oilyrags, Monday, 26 November 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I know obv. Just pointing out that the cheapshot doesn't work so well in retrospect cos plenty of people would be happy to take their money and run for two or four issues these days (HEY FOUR ISSUES JUST LIKE RASL)

energy flash gordon, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)


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