Bill Willingham: S & D

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Brought over from the Robin thread.

No one seems willing to defend his run on Robin. No one so far has said anything good about his other DC work-for-hire.

Merv Pumpkinhead was perfectly fine. Not brilliant, but nothing wrong with it. I don't remember offhand what else he's done at Vertigo -- the Furies? or was that Carey?

Has he done anything good with other peoples' characters, outside of Sandman spin-offs?

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

His website is pretty interesting. It contains a ton of info on Fables, but almost nothing on his previous work. I must therefore assume that he's trying to cover up a career of SUCKERY!

Oh wait, he did that Thessaly mini-series last year that I really liked, even though I didn't read enough of Sandman to encounter the character there.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

I liked Elementals, his series for Comico. But I was reading and mostly enjoying everything back then, indiscriminately.

― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

Elementals was good for the time, probably fairly superseded by now. He finally did finish it off a couple of years ago in a roman a clef stylee, possibly for Lone Star Press. His first Vertigo (I think?) thing, Proposition Player read like a good set-up for future miniseries that never happened. Read the first five issues and imagine your own conclusion, I reckon (the first ish might be the last thing he drew, bar a few pages in some The Dreaming special).

― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

I'll still read his comix, but seriously, fuck this guy's politics. He's indistinguishable from Jonah Goldberg on Big Hollywood.

― Mordy, Monday, 23 February 2009 13:53 (seventeen years ago)

It really is a shame, because Fables is some fun stuff. (I find that editorial he wrote condemning the darkness of superheroes to be err, bizarrely hypocritical...) Enjoyed Day of Vengeance as well. I've heard Proposition Player was good, too, though I haven't read it.

His Batman/Detective Comics stuff, though, stay away. Stay far away.

― Nhex, Monday, 23 February 2009 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

Torrenting the complete Fables so far at the moment, having bought the first three trades, and conveniently (not to mention illogically) his politics make me feel not in the least bit guilty about it.

― chap, Monday, 23 February 2009 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

Thankfully he's no Frank Miller, so the politics in Fables don't usually get explicit enough to ruin the story. I think the first Arabian fables story and the Israel analogy made by Bigby are the only bits where I've been like, fuck you. I haven't yet read anything past volume 10 though, hope it doesn't get more dodgy...

― Tuomas, Monday, 23 February 2009 15:59 (seventeen years ago)

ELEMENTALS is pretty darn good. At least I remember it being so at the time that it came out. The storyline wasn't ever finished (Comico went under), but elements of the line that ELEMENTALS was following were apparently used in his book PANTHEON, which came out from Lone Star Press, I'm thinking. I haven't actually read it, so not sure how it holds up (and to be honest, haven't read ELEMENTALS since the late eighties.)

I really wanted to like SHADOWPACT, but it ended up doing not so much for me.

― Matt M., Monday, 23 February 2009 17:25 (seventeen years ago)

His politics are weird--dark superheroes are bad, but rampant elf pornography is OK?

― James Morrison, Monday, 23 February 2009 22:23 (seventeen years ago)

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