TS: Grant Morrison (the comic book character) vs. Warren Ellis (the comic book character)

I remember buying this comic off the spinner rack, I guess I would have been 7. It pretty much killed my interest in Superman for a few years.

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Personally, I can't decide between Grant M. admitting that he often doesn't know how to end stories and Warren E. admitting that he would be a useless mess at gunpoint.

hmmm. Not bad.

ps I think Byrne's a repeat offender on this, 'cos I think I recall an edition of Uncanny X-Men when he did something similar.

Sim took the cheque.

Heck, didn't Stan Lee and Jack Kirby do this back in like FF#6?

Hey, that's the first Morrison comic I ever read!

Was the bald dude in in the British issue of Planetary (you know, the one where they visit the graveyard of 80s comics characters) supposed to be Morrison? The whole issue felt like a Morrison tribute to me, with all the critique of "dark and edgy" superheroes.

What's up with Morrison being bald in RL and fully haired in Animal Man? Is that like a wink-wink to the reader? "I say this is me, but it's clearly not physically me, but my deceleration of so it becomes me." or something like that?

Animal Man was ages ago, maybe he had hair back then?

Maybe? I don't know! That's why I'm asking.

No, Tuomas, that was a combination Hellblazer/Transmetropolitan pastiche. If you haven't read Transmetropolitan, check it out, I think you'd like it (the second or third volume, the one with the story of the "revival" brought back to like after cryosleep, is where it really takes off).

I don't really associate him with "dark and edgy" superheroes to be honest! Who where you thinking of?

I don't really associate him with "dark and edgy" superheroes to be honest! Who where you thinking of?

No, what I meant that the issue was supposed a sort of parable for mainstream American comic books moving away from the dark and edgy superheroes of the late 80s/early 90s. And I thought it was Morrison tribute because Morrison was one of the main critics of the dark and edgy type of superheroes, and one of the first writers to move beyond them.

I mean, I know that the character was supposed to be John Constantine, but I thought making him look more like Morrison was also a tribute to him.

Animal Man was ages ago, maybe he had hair back then?

The issue of Animal Man where Morrison appears has photo of him on the cover, and his actual clothes are exactly like on the comic version of him, but the top of his head is conveniently cut off the photo.

Btw, am I the only one who was wondering whether or not he was actually sending those light signals to his fox friend in real life?

He had hair then, I believe.

I thought Constantine was supposed to be Sting?

RIP old ILC

(where i used to start threads!)

Tuomas, read the words that I am writing. The bald tattooed character that he becomes at the end is based on Spider Jerusalem, the protagonist of Transmetropolitan.

RIP reading comprehension

Oh yeah, I forgot that in the end the character has the same tattoos as Spider Jerusalem. But I always thought Spider Jeruasalem was partly influenced by Morrison as well.

I mean, Jerusalem is kinda similar to King Mob, isn't he?

i think they're separate instances of bald comics dudes trying to make people think bald is cool.

hahaha so true. I am seriously pretty tired of it.

Morrison definitely had not gone bald yet when he wrote Animal Man. (This makes the new cover for the 3rd TPB very stupid.)

TIME TRAVEL!

John Ostrander's Morrison is pretty funny! Since Ostrander states that by putting himself in Animal Man Morrison became a character in the official DC continuity, it's a pity no other writers have used him since. (Or has someone?) I think it would've been very Morrisonesque if he had become proper hero or villain in the DC universe.

Morrison was also one (or all) of the Seven Unknown Men in Seven Soldiers, right?

Morrison was Darywn Cooke's inspiration for Captain Cold in NEW FRONTIER. He even tried to get Morrison to voice the character on the video.

Oh, and Steve Gerber wins this one. But really Stan and Jack probably do, now that I think about it.