The Punisher

Probably not, though I'm gearing up for Wondercon. (I'm almost hoping that you don't find it there so I can have the pleasure of hunting it down at WC.)

Is there a Trade that sums up the story? I thought that the main character in The Punisher was killed (by the same people that killed his family) but then came back to life, hot and a biscuit for revenge... Which just makes me think of The Crow...

The End books are stand-alone mini-series that supposedly take care of the last stories/deaths of the characters, since most of those books will never be allowed to actually end. I think it's a reasonably good idea in theory, but most of them suck.

An origin story for The Punisher may involve reprinting a bit of Spiderman, as that's where he started. The trailer for the film more or less covers it: his family's dead, er, that's about it.

"...his family's dead, er, that's about it."

Anything worth a damn re: the Punisher the past 5 years has been written by Garth Ennis - this The End one-shot sounds swank, and Punisher: Born (a 4-issue Mature Readers mini-series dealing with Frank Castle in 'Nam, w/ excellent art by Transmetropolitan's Darick Robertson) is excellent, & has been collected. The last Marvel Knights regular series (as written by Ennis) dealt more with how the silliness of the Punisher sharing space with primary-colored spandex freaks, and how stupid the Punisher conceit can be (and has been). I have no idea how the current series (now a Mature Readers title; the Punisher's 10th or 11th series) is, but it looks/ed intriguing.

My favourite Punisher moment ever (apart from some of Garth Ennis' pisstakes where he uses a semi-conscious Spiderman as a punch-bag/shield in a fistfight) is in an issue of Peter David & Dale Keown's run on Hulk where he makes his entrance in a splash page, holding an Uzi and with bandoliers of ammo over his shoulder only to say, deadpan : "Snake Eyes. You lose." Hilarious. You used to be able to get a t-shirt of it...

I read this, and I thought it was just okay. Why all the fuss, Chuck?

Maybe I am getting jaded or something.

To complicate matters, there is also a Batman/Hellboy crossover.

FROM WHAT IVE GATHERED THE PUNISHER MOVIE IS THE BASIC STORY OF HOW FRANK CASTLE LOOSES HIS FAMILY AND GOES ON A REVENGE SPREE, GOT TRAVOLTA IN IT BUT NOT SURE WHO PLAYS THE PUNISHER, I THINK AN UNKNOWN

CANT WAIT FOR THE WOLVERINE THE END SERIES

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Is the Essential Punisher collection worth picking up? I keep thinking it must be, most of the Essentials are for the price, but there are a couple of Avengers and X-Men ones I'm not crazy about. (Except for a few stories here and there, I'm not a big fan of Stan Lee Avengers or X-Men.)

Written by Gerry Conway, Archie Goodwin, Len Wein, Marv Wolfman
Art by Ross Andru, Tony DeZuniga, Keith Pollard, Frank Miller

When the mob killed his family, Frank Castle went to war. But before he became the scourge of the underworld, the Punisher set his sights on a certain world-famous wall-crawler. In time for next summer’s THE PUNISHER big-screen adventure, Marvel presents the vengeance-seeking vigilante’s earliest appearances in the pages of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, CAPTAIN AMERICA, DAREDEVIL and more. Collects in black & white format AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #129, #134-135, #161-162, #174-175, #201-202 & ANNUAL #15, GIANT-SIZE SPIDER-MAN #4, MARVEL PREVIEW PRESENTS #2, MARVEL SUPER ACTION #1, CAPTAIN AMERICA #241, DAREDEVIL #182-184, SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN #81-83 & PUNISHER #1-5! 568 PGS./B&W/MARVEL PSR…$14.99

So yeah, that's a hell of a grab bag, there (and more issues than I thought Essentials volumes collected, so a number of them must be less-than-full-issue stories...)

THE ESSENTIAL SCOURGE OF THE UNDERWORLD! With mostly all the build-up issues when he just appears for one panel and says "Justice is served."

THE ESSENTIAL FROG-MAN!

THE ESSENTIAL BLACK CAT! (This could actually be cool, but only because Black Cat appearances were often good Spider-Man issues.)

THE ESSENTIAL GREER GARSON! Beginning with her appearances as "The Cat" and then as Tigra (this would include some Marvel Team-Ups before her eventual Avengers appearances, I think. And all that Marvel Premiere/Marvel Presents/whatever it was stuff.)

(Can you see the free association chain above? :))

THE ESSENTIAL PASTE-POT PETE!

I'd rather see THE ESSENTIAL BEN URICH, or THE ESSENTIAL KAREN PAGE, or (of course) THE ESSENTIAL H.E.R.B.I.E.

Not available, but should be: THE ESSENTIAL RICK JONES

Would THE ESSENTIAL RICK JONES be anything other than THE ESSENTIAL HULK (at least for vol 1) or would we by default only collect non-Hulk appearances? I guess the latter, yeah, cause that's what they did for THE ESSENTIAL HUMAN TORCH. (There is an essential Torch, right, and I didn't imagine it?)

And, yes re: the ESSENTIAL HUMAN TORCH (which is just a collection of all his Strange Tales short stories).

ESSENTIAL NEW UNIVERSE is urgent & key.

ESSENTIAL NEW UNIVERSE, geez. With Merc and Kickers Inc and all? Or just Psi-Force/Nightmask/DP 7/Justice/Starbrand? (Heh, "just." That's still five titles... all of them had at least good moments. Justice ended up brilliant eventually, DP 7 was good from the gitgo.)

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(Okay, so it's DC.)

I wouldn't mind a cheap reprinting of The Pitt, The Draft, and The War, I guess, even if that whole event was pretty lackluster compared to what came before it (except for hoverboard dude).

Anyway, I'm watching the movie right now -- specifically, I am watching a scene with uber-Italian singing on the soundtrack ("la la spaghettio, meatball and figaro," something like that) while Mr Punisher hits what looks like a large bottle-blonde Bluto. Weird.

The biggest problem with the movie, though, I think, is that the Punisher needs to be in a superhero universe. Not as a superhero, and not even necessarily pitted against supervillains -- but as a contrast to guys like Spider-Man and Daredevil. You take him out of that, and so what, you've got Rambo with better hair. Big whoop.

That makes a good Punisher movie with any real connection to the comic pretty much impossible. No one who goes to the trouble of buying the rights to the Punisher is going to be satisfied using him as a supporting character in a Spidey movie, and I'm not sure they'd listen to me when I tell them that in order for their non-superpowered hero to work the way he's supposed to, they have to populate their setting with other superpowered folks who aren't the focus of the movie or even necessarily a major part of the supporting cast.

Doing it like this, though, it's like doing a Kingpin movie (no Randy Quaid photos, please) without superheroes in it. Sure, he's not a superhero, but he's a superhero-genre/setting character.

Or as an example from another genre: it's like telling a Han Solo story in a setting that isn't science fiction. Sure, you can bring the character over, and unlike Skywalker or Threepio there's nothing inherent to him that requires science fiction. But you're still taking away everything that's the point of the character.

The people I was watching it with asked if all comics were this racist so I told them about Captain America's Motto For Japs.

Actor Thomas Jane told fans on his message board that the film is delayed, and shooting won't start this summer. "'P2' is still looking for a good story at this point," Jane said. "We're working on it, and hope to have a script by the fall."

P1 is still looking for a good story at this point.

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I'm not sure if it works, but I like playfulness of the layout.

I hate the 90s so much.

The 90-Calibers?

So idiotic, it crosses over into the sublime.

His hand, even taking perspective into account, is bigger than his head! How's he gonna fit those fingers over the trigger of any gun?

I'm not sure if it works, but I like playfulness of the layout.

― like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Sunday, September 4, 2011 2:39 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

i was thinking the same thing! the split faces thing is cool

is that from the 2099 line?

yup

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/04/in-iraq-anti-isis-fighters-make-the-punishers-symbol-their-own/

hey, was Punisher 2099 basically Marshal Law?