V For Vendetta Trailer

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What do we think? I think it looks promising!

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Friday, 22 July 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

I can't actually follow the link, but I checked on the quciktime trailers site to see if it was up there and found that the trailer to Mirrormask has just been put up, which looks stunning:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/mirrormask.html

chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Saturday, 23 July 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

Found it. Doesn't look too bad, but I'm still hugely sceptical as to whether it will mark the end of the Curse Of The Alan Moore Adaptation. I know it's hard to tell from a trailer, but the mood doesn't seem entirely right, and the bullet time daggers... Also I remain entirely unconvinced of Natalie Portman's ability to do an English accent.

Uncharitable? Me? Never!

chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Saturday, 23 July 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

bullet time daggers

There's no way to make that look right.

I really hope it turns out OK. I read the DC edition of V for Vendetta when I was, like, ten or eleven, and I loved it, probably my favorite thing by Moore. If they manage to make good adaptations of things like "Valerie" this might turn out to be a wonderful thing. Nevertheless, "bullet time daggers" is something that doesn't go well with the atmosphere of the V for Vendetta I remember.

iodine (iodine), Saturday, 23 July 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

have none of you read the script reviews, excerpts, Moore's comments, set reports or seen photos? this will be a grotesque abortion and there's no point expending the slightest bit of hope on it. go and smell a flower and pat a puppy instead.

kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 23 July 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

however, it may bring the W. Sibloids's "Empire" crashing to the ground!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 23 July 2005 06:07 (twenty years ago)

I want someone to keep sponsoring Geof Darrow to do comics though...

kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 23 July 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

bullet time daggers aside, how can anyone watch that trailer and not be just a little bit impressed, a little bit excited? visually it looks wonderful, just right. if they've mauled the plot or tampered with the heart of the story, so be it, however good it looks it will be an abomination, but it's a bit early to assume that from script excerpts and *shock horror* Alan Moore complaining about things. LoXG, the only truely dreadful Moore adaptation, stank like sewers from the outset in a way VFV hasn't, and in my opinion, the new film has passed the first trailer test.

Lee F# (fsharp), Saturday, 23 July 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

> LoXG, the only truely dreadful Moore adaptation

I presume you're saying this because "From Hell" omitted so much of the interesting stuff that you don't count it as an adaptation.

I dunno about this one. I have absolutely no faith in the Ws ability to get the important stuff right, but this isn't by them, it's by their henchman. And he did seem to get the unimportant stuff right, totally-wicked-awesome-dude spinning knives aside.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

I have to say, that looked terrible, but I speak as somebody with an English accent, and those were the worst English accents I've heard.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

It's like, it may be a comic, but it's not a blockbuster story. It needs to filmed in Edge of Darkness murkovision or something.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Absolutely. There was bright red in the trailer. V For Vendetta shouldn't have any bright red in it.

chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

Big telly John Hurt was cool, tho'.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

John Hurt was in 1984 as well, right?

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

V For Vendetta shouldn't have any bright red in it.

i thought the bright red looked striking, in a Schindler's List way.

From Hell wasn't really an adaptation, i don't think. it took the book as a starting point but did its own thing (you couldn't ever hope to faithfully film the book).

on something of a tangent, it also occurs to me that if Constantine had been called something else entirely, with different character names, i would never have thought to link it with anything Hellblazer, and i probably would've enjoyed it.

Lee F# (fsharp), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

From Hell wasn't really an adaptation, i don't think. it took the book as a starting point but did its own thing (you couldn't ever hope to faithfully film the book).

not unlike Batman Begins/Year One.

Lee F# (fsharp), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Constantine was fine. And despite the fact that Alan Moore created the character, it was Delano and Ennis (or Ellis, I honestly have no illusions about ever being able to tell them apart) who did the work that the movie was based on.
Moore's Constantine in Swamp Thing was just a plot device. (not that there's anything wrong with that)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 23 July 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

top of my head:
everyone becomes V - lame, stupid, and versus the point.
Prothero famous not anonymous - lame, stupid, and versus the point.
Prothero "The Voice Of London" - lame, stupid, and versus the point.
loads of Fawkes exposition - lame, stupid, and versus the point.
actual Fawkes citations as hero and precedent - lame, stupid, and versus the point.
Evey just out for a stroll instead of on the game - lame, stupid, and versus the point.
cops trying to rape Evey when she's j.o.f.a.s.etc. - lame, stupid, and versus the point.
Evey BROUGHT UP AS A RADICAL OPPOSED TO THE GOVERNMENT - so far from the point that it can barely be seen with the naked eye

and lest we forget:


He indicates his mask

V: "This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vangquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.

"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V."

Evey: "Are you like, a crazy-person?"

kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 24 July 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)

The only way this script would be good is if V was played by Adam West and Evey was played by Eartha Kitt. VVVVVVVRRROWR!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 24 July 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

man, i haven't been slapped down so hard since i had one too many daquiris and told Hulk Hogan that 'Santa In Muscles' was a pretty shitty movie.

Lee F# (fsharp), Sunday, 24 July 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

i meant 'Santa With Muscles', but y'all knew that 'cos everyone's a fan.

Lee F# (fsharp), Sunday, 24 July 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

BOLUCKS

Lee F# (fsharp), Sunday, 24 July 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

I'd pay to see the Adam West version of V, yeah!

kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 24 July 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

I've watched the trailer now and it looks terrible, a jaw-clenching macho grunty-action festival of cliches. ZZZZZZZZZ.

kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 24 July 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

Trying to piss on the movie because it's not going to be exactly like the book: lame, stupid, and versus the point.

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 24 July 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

That speech with all the v-alliteration pisses on the film without any help. You'd have to be some kind of superactor to deliver that even slightly well.

Vic Fluro, Sunday, 24 July 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

On the plus side, Hugo Weaving's voice sounds about right.

chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Sunday, 24 July 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

It's not a matter of whether the movie clings to the original comic or pisses all over it -- it's whether, if I can be brash, the cinema is an appropriate medium for telling this story. In this case, the answer has to be (probably) no. The important thing abotu the comic is it never descends into kitsch. An actor in a Guy Fawkes mask will always be look kitsch and doofus-y. There's just nothing you can do about it. Some comic things only work in comics.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 24 July 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

(Memo to self: copy edit post before sending.)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/paulisaacs/oc.jpg

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

Jeeze, I'm just glad I live in a world where a Vendetta movie gets made and is exposed to a massive audience. Moore should stop throwing fits and all the haters should take the walnuts from their asses - where they are cracked, what with all the excessive buttclenching.

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Monday, 25 July 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

An actor in a Guy Fawkes mask will always be look kitsch and doofus-y.

As opposed to, say, an actor in a William Shatner mask?

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 25 July 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

Jeeze, I'm just glad I live in a world where a Vendetta movie gets made and is exposed to a massive audience.

Did you feel the same about L! X! G! ?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 25 July 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

yeah, what's yer opinion of the Daredevil/Elektra flicks?

how 'bout the Dolph Lundgren Punisher one?

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 25 July 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

tho i think half the fun of this flick will be the conservative blowhard backlash against it

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 25 July 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

I will reiterate my stance re: DD and Elektra: they are quite entertaining. Of course, I had low standards, but I maintain that the fight scenes in DD were quite well executed (better than, say, SM1), and as for Elektra, well, let's just say that the person with whom I accompanied to this film made it worthwhile. Also, J. G@rner in the lezban kiss.

Leeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 25 July 2005 06:05 (twenty years ago)

how low can you go?

Lee F# (fsharp), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Hasselhoff played Patch!?!?!?!?!?!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

As opposed to, say, an actor in a William Shatner mask?

But masks are just boring to look at as a cinemagoer. (See Green Goblin, say.) You can at least anthropomorphosise them in the comics.

It's probably just my problem, but I just can't get over the queasy campiness of comics movies. It's not a quease I feel when I'm reading comics, no matter how dorky they are.

On the other hand, I'm dying to see this and I hope it's good.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

and that hoff picture is awesome oh my

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

two-dimensional spandex on ridiculously articulated specimens vs. three-dimensional on specimens who might be retaining water

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

hmm, i have a possibly unique ability to completely overlook how terrible a comicbook character looks when portrayed on screen, possible developed as a defence mechanism when young while watching the Captain America film, and watching a man in Spidey PJs fight ninjas on rooftops.

note that this tolerance does not extend to the Hoff playing Nick Fury.

Lee F# (fsharp), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's who that it is.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

The Red Skull is the bomb in that movie. (Everyone knows Captain America is JD Salinger's son, right?)

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 25 July 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

we do now. that's a quality Fact (that i intend to ruin by telling everyone i know, probably several times.)

Lee F# (fsharp), Monday, 25 July 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I don't even know what that means.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 25 July 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

He means the actor.

Moore should stop throwing fits

Why?

My 'stupid and lame' criticisms aren't because the movie isn't going to be a direct and faithful adaptation of the comic as drawn, it's because those changes described go against or undermine the actual themes and intent of the text.

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

V for Vendetta would make a smashing BBC Drama. Boiling it down into a ninety-minute film and focussing on only one or two characters is what is essentially a large ensemble cast is going to take away from the story, and I'm not 100% sure the Wachowskis are going to be able to put enough back in to compensate. I hope I'm wrong.

Saying 'give all my money to David Lloyd' is an awfully nice fit to be pitching. I'd like my workmates to pitch fits like that.

Vic Fluro, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

That wasn't part of the fit, tho - I thought it had to do w/ Moore's name being used in press materials in such a way that he didn't approve of, and subsequently cutting all ties with DC Comics as a result (including moving the next LXG series to Top Shelf).

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Isn't Top Shelf in bed with DC anyway? Or is that Top Cow? Is there a difference?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

(I wish I was in bed with DC, except Aquaman always has the cold feet!)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Top Cow's part of Wildstorm, which is the ex-Image part of DC. Top Shelf published Blankets.

And now you know the rest of the story.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Whichever one does Cyberforce, I guess.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

That would be Drawn & Quarterly.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Ah, so it's Canadian. Like me.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

I forgot there'd been another fit since the old fit... oh well, he only had ties with DC 'cos they amorphously absorbed Wildstorm.

Frankly I quite like Moore's regular fits - it makes a change from all the other stories I read about creators who are so very EXCITED!!!! to be doing a series that will blow up the ENTIRE DCU/MARVEL/IMAGE!!!! over an eight-year period. It's quite refreshing to come away from that to Moore chatting amiably to Stewart Lee or someone about how he wouldn't piss on such-and-such-a-company if they were on fire.

Vic Fluro, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
OH NOES, THIS MOVIE SUCKS! IF WE DELAY IT, MAYBE IT WILL SUCK LESS!
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=721d54f5f401d710292b174633cebd34&threadid=41030

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
Halfway down the page, AICN previews V for V.
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=21999

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

I vonder if viewers' vicious pre-release evisceration of the vlick vorced the vilm's devenders to remove and/or revise how the vlick unvolds.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 December 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

[x-post] gosh, that's er, raising expectations there. blimey

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that AICN thinks the movie is TOTALLY AWESOME!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Then came the last film. V FOR VENDETTA - preceeded by a 35mm print of Donald Duck's Academy Award winning turn in DER FUHRER'S FACE. While everyone was going through security - we were passing out about 240 Duck Billed Duck Calls. I led everyone into a duck version of HAPPY BIRTHDAY - and then everyone duck called to DER FUHRER'S FACE - making the greatest film experience ever.

Till... V FOR VENDETTA. I was not prepared for V FOR VENDETTA. This is the most intense cinematic cry for Anarchy since A CLOCKWORK ORANGE. They made the comic. Alan Moore is a bitch for even thinking of bitching about this. It is fucking PERFECT! When you see them promoting it as UNCOMPROMISED VISION. That's absolutely right. This thing doesn't give two shakes of a pecker what the modern world is going to think. THEY NAILED IT! You never see V's face. The voice - PERFECT. Natalie Portman - BRILLIANT. Everybody PERFECT. Adrian Biddle's last film as DP is a revelation and a revolution! This was my favorite film of the festival. They finally fucking nailed ALAN MOORE! Wachowski's - do WATCHMEN! PLEASE! When this film opens - this will be a political molotov cocktail. Absolutely fucking great! It isn't the action film that the first MATRIX was - but it is easily a vastly more important and brilliant film.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh, AICN, don't ever change. That way I can continue not reading you.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

MORE CAPS PLEASE!

I would love to see AICN's take on Catwoman. But I ain't gonna browse their site for it. So I'll make it up:

CATWOMAN is fucking FANTASTIC! Halle Berry is SO HAWT in that leather suit - folks that want to see the traditional cat suit need to GO GET LAID or STOP WITH THE GAYNESS! Sharon Stone in the PERFORMANCE OF HER LIFE! Benjamin Bratt - THE NEW HOLLYWOOD STUD! LOOK OUT Brad Pitt! The script - BRILLIANT with a nice side of WITTY ONE-LINERS! Pitof - THE NEW MICHAEL BAY! Get him to direct the Transformers flick - IT WILL ROCK! This movie was so good, it makes Tim Burton's Batflicks look like the Roger Corman FF crap! MAKE A SEQUEL RIGHT NOW! FUCK YEAH!

(I am so bored right now.)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Close:
But this is not quite as good as SUPERGIRL, which in and of itself was a pretty bad film. Although, for me, I own SUPERGIRL on DVD for that one perfect moment in the film, where Helen Slater flies over that pool of water dancing and teasing her fingers along the surface. It was and remains magic. The score was fantastic on that film, and Faye Dunaway was grotesquely awful as the villain, while Sharon Stone was merely forgettable and worthless. Though not classically awful.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Is English his second language, by any chance?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Damn it I said MORE CAPS!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

fuck you for making me scan through his review archives looking for reviews full of caps (of which there are depressingly few)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)


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