Wolf In The Fold (SPOILERS)

I hope it's Cap but it's probably not.

And yes, it's really top, innit?

I doubt it's Tony. Cap would work as he is acting more and more bastardly, but it'd have to be the serum warping his brane or something. Natasha we know almost nothing about, plus she's a trained killer etc. Although since she's Russian, does the Pym speech still work?

Maybe we need an OMNISPOILER thread to deal with the summer of revelations.

My feeling is that it's Black Widow - partially because she's the only logical option, her codename is kind of a giveaway, she's already shown herself to be sneaky and manipulative, she's obviously fucking with Tony's mind, and she probably killed Hawkeye cos she has been partners with him for a while before joining and he maybe knew too much.

I wish that it was Captain America though, and I think Millar is playing on that because he's made the character such a hateful asshole that every reader wants him to finally just be full-on evil. But they won't do that.

Or something.

My guess: It's Hawkeye. And everything at the end of ish 7 was a ruse.
(But maybe not.)

Doesn't this all just scream Red Herring? Besides, Natasha would hardly qualify as a traitor. A mole at best, and a big wet plop in place of a dramatic reveal.

Cap's a problem for the same reason. He's a dick, but unless it turns out there's some sort of tiresome Very Good Reason Why I Had To Etc Etc, there's no dramatic satisfaction to be had, just a Big Surprise.

For those who have seen the cover of the Big Reveal issue: I'll be disappointed if it's NOT a dodge.

Great issue, though I get a little annoyed with this kind of grand scale destruction of real places in superhero comics. But it worked, and it all makes sense, and the wait until the next issue will be annoying.

Can't believe he offed Jarvis, though!

And I didn't recognise who all those bad guys were Ultimate versions of - is that the Abomination?

How much of an effect has the Ultimates ever had on other Ultimate titles?

Personally I enjoy seeing the cities I live in get fictionally destroyed (Toronto getting nuked in Resident Evil 2 is a highlight) -- but I'm not sure what allegorical point MM's trying to making here -- unless (a) the point he's trying to make is completely garbled, or (b) the point is "Look! Exposions! Cool!", and being Millar, either or both are likely.

Also, the baddies knocking over the Statue of Liberty = the Iraqi liberators knocking over the statue of Saddam!!!!

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Re: the villains @ the end - I assumed a fair number of them are Ultimate versions of the Soviet Super Soldiers, or some non-US supervillain coalition. I know Crimson Dymano is there. I'm thinking one of the guys in the huge non-Dymano suit is Radioactive Man, maybe? (Unless I'm confusing Dynamo w/ non-Dynamo.)

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Yeah, I didn't think he was drawing any parallels, unless he's trying to illustrate what a super-powered comeuppance might look like.

The ending of the first volume is kinda "meh" and it has the Hulk in that awful version Millar likes to write, but the second volume is REALLY REALLY GOOD. More character development, more plot twists, more backstabbery, great.

Now I wanna know how they get out of this.

And I love that Thor is a real god. It makes him right and It's probably the character (along with Tony) that I like the most. I hope that Hank Pym is, like Matthew said, important in saving the day. His redemption is long overdue (and Millar seems to like him).