DC to readers: GIMME ALL YOUR MONEY

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― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 25 July 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

But if it's only $1 a week, then surely we can all spare such a paltry sum to keep this struggling publisher in the red (or black) (you know, the good color).

DC should promote this thing the way that Trapper-John-looking jerk pimps out that Christian Children's charity, combined w/ the moxie of those Pat Boone gold-pimping ads. "You're not doing anything right now, are you? What're you going to spend that money on, anyway? Condoms? Booze? A cup of coffee? Some fattening fast-food confection? For that same dollar, you could buy a book by the creators of such beloved series as _Stars & S.T.R.I.P.E._ and _Azrael_. In addition, this entertaining book will appreciate in value as you grow older. It's an investment in the now, and in the future."

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 25 July 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

As long as it all culminates in a brutally dull story about how Superman, Nightwing, Bishop Tutu, Deadman and some caveman were nearly selected to be Green Lantern of sector 2814, I'm fucking IN.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 25 July 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Hell, I'm in even if the story's exciting!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 25 July 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/3564/200/3564_2_642.jpg

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 25 July 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Huk, are you seriously telling me ... that the story you described ... actually HAPPENED?

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 25 July 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

I quit.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 25 July 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

God, Action Comics Weekly was a wild ride. It smelled really good. Maybe because in 1988 a new comic shop opened downtown and the dudes who ran it were always smoking dope, and it had an arcade. But the covers remain classic.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 25 July 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

If I was writing Green Lantern now, I'd totally make Bishop Tutu the backup Green Lantern.

"Hal, please, I'm an old man..."
"Shut it, Des! Get those longjohns on NOW and help me fight Goldface."

― Vic Fluro, Monday, 25 July 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

I liked ACW too.

I think this is a grebt idea. I wish however it wasn't some lame-o Infinite Crisis tie-in.

I hope the 24 rip-off extends to i) stonking cliffhangers every week ii) rubbish cougar menace plot.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 25 July 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Neil Gaiman wrote the REAL last issue of Action Comic Weekly, they just didn't publish it for 14 years or so.

52 will run in real time (or as close to real time as comics can approximate) – that is, when it’s winter outside your window, it will be winter in the United States of the DCU.

DiDio's going to have all planes to Australia grounded for six months? The power's really going to his head now.

(also when does Infinite Crisis end? has anyone at DC counted how many Wednesdays there actually are next year?)

― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 25 July 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Duh, there is no end to something infinite (I think that's seriously the plan, just to knock readers over the head EVERY! SINGLE! WEEK! with SHOCKING! REVELATIONS! and FIGHTS! YOU! THOUGHT! YOU! 'D! NEVER! SEE!) (see, it's exhausting).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

nah I meant does 52 start from the first week of 2006, cos I think it'll run one short if so...

― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

Well, it needn't necessarily follow our arbitrary terrestrial demarcation of the "new year", maybe it will start on the Thanagarian new year?
(I think the One Year Later begins with Infinite Crying Batman #5, and if #1 ships in Oct...that'll be like Feb?)

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

A retailing issue (that I'm sure some retailer wrote about on Newsarama): where the hell are they going to find THE SPACE for these books? There's gonna be a lot of crap to bag and board and box come Week 20.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

they can start selling fish and chips as well?

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 28 July 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

My crystal ball is showing me images of my thirty-something year old self with his son flipping through bargain bins filled with "sold-out" issues of 52 and Tangent specials.

BTW, is it me or Tangent is to comic book bins what those old Chicago LPs that nobody seem to want are to used vinyls bins?

― iodine (iodine), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Image comics = Boz Scaggs.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Superman's Wedding Album = Boney M

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

It's not a Crisis without GeoPerez!

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Oct05/GeorgePInfCrisis1.html

FUCKING SWEEEEEEEETTTTTT!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Waitaminit! Is that Dr. Polaris in his lamoid 90s armour back there? "FUCKING SWEEEEEEEETTTTTT!" revoked.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Got OMAC?

Is Dr. Polaris the villain all the way in the back?

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, he was a classic GL villain with Magneto's powers and the BEST headgear in Coast City:
http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/dc/bitmaps/drpolaris.jpg

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Oh, yeah - his old headgear is a LOT better than his fancy new armor. *annoying eye-rolling icon*

BTW, Dr. P was featured in the initial issues of Gail Simone's Action Comics run.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Hey, if Dr. Light can go back to his pre-Kyle Rayner duds...

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

DC to readers: WE GOT ALL YOUR MONEY, NOW STEAL SOME FROM YOUR MOM

Shipping in November:
Writer: Bill Willingham, Judd Winick
Artists: Justiniano, Walden Wong, Ian Churchill and Norm Rapmund
Cover artist: Walter Simonson
Collects DAY OF VENGEANCE #1-6, ACTION COMICS #826, ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN #639 and SUPERMAN #216
$12.99, 224 pages

THE OMAC PROJECT
Writers: Greg Rucka, Geoff Johns and Judd Winick
Artists: Jesus Saiz, Rags Morales, Ed Benes, Phil Jimenez, Ivan Reis, Marc Campos, Andy Lanning and Michael Bair
Cover artist: Ladrönn
Collects THE OMAC PROJECT #1-6, COUNTDOWN TO INFINITE CRISIS and WONDER WOMAN #219
$14.99, 256 pages

And in December:

RANN-THANAGAR WAR
Writer: Dave Gibbons
Artists: Ivan Reis, Joe Prado and Marc Campos
Collects RANN-THANAGAR WAR #1-6
$12.99, 144 pages

VILLAINS UNITED
Writer: Gail Simone
Artists: Dale Eaglesham, Val Semeiks, Wade von Grawbadger and Prentis Rollins
Cover artist: J.G. Jones
Collects VILLAINS UNITED #1-6
$12.99, 160 pages

Which is to say, if you've been buying these by the issue, you're a sap.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Not if I'm SELLING THEM BWAH HAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Well, you're a sap regardless. But who are you selling them to? What if I made you an offer?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

For the record, I was a sap long before this.

Start the bidding @: ONE BILLION PAZOOZAS

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Why does The OMAC Project cost more money than Day Of Vengeance even if they appear to have roughly the same page count?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Because people might actually want to read OMAC!
Or DC is trying to recoup on their 99¢ Countdown FIASCO!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

80-PAGE CRISIS!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

"The book. It's too big for a regular Mylar. And it's flimsy. Flimsier than most books. CGC wouldn't touch this if it were a boob. If only I were as resourceful as Batman, I'd be able to recoup my investment..." *BANG*

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Are those Superman books with DoV the OMAC issues, or did Superman have a MAGICKAL ADVENTURE as well?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC OMAC

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

The 3 Superbooks are the prequel showing how the Eclipso gem got to the Atom's wife. It tagged some woman, who fought Supes in some Lex armor, then tagged Supes, and then went to Arkham. Ian Churchill was the artiste. Kryptomeh.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

OH NOES INFINITE CRISIS #2 SNEAkS PEEK
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=1c30762c9702565372f7509649636351&threadid=40492

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Oh hey while we're at it, can someone explain to me the basic plot of Day Of Vengeance? I think I have a decent handle on OMAC and Villains United, and Rann/Thanagar seems somewhat self-explanatory, but Day Of Vengeance just seems like it's a bunch of random extremely powerful characters fighting for no discernable reason.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Ummm, the Spectre is lonely and confused because it hasn't got a human host for the first time ever, so new mrs Atom Eclipso goes and keeps it company and says that if the spectre destroys all magic she will love it long time (I'm not sure why eclipso wants to destroy all magic - because she is a bitch, apparently). So the Spectre goes and nukes dr Fate and the Phantom Stranger etc. captain Marvel tries to stop them and a load of obscure Z List characters (The Enchantress! Ragman! nightshade! Detective Chimp! blue devil!) try and help

― Mark C (Markco), Sunday, 14 August 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

In a good way?

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 14 August 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

I am listening to audio of the Crisis panel from Comic-Con. I IS A DORK.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)

This is a room I never want to find myself in.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)

I can't take it anymore. Giving up!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:09 (twenty years ago)

did you learn any exciting facts before your brain melted?

― Mark C (Markco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

Wow, Day Of Vengeance sounds completely awful!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

It's still better than Rann/Thanagar War!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

So what's going on in that comic? I just got the sense that it was just some cheesy space war thing. Isn't Dave Gibbons a little better than that?

Also, where can I get that audio of the Crisis panel? I've got some morbid curiosity.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

It's in the Crisis Counselling section at DCcomics.com.
I got about a third of the way through before I just couldn't take anymore of D@n D!d!o's gushing about "We want to make you excited to go to the comic shop this Wednesday and every Wednesday!" and his stupid Shazam jokes.

I'm starting to get serious Crisis fatigue. I have no problem with DC's whole idea of trying to make sure that every Wednesday is A MAJOR EVENT, but I need more payoffs.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

MORE BRAIN FOOTPRINTS PLZ

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

WHY DIDN'T ANY OF YOU TELL ME BLUE DEVIL WAS IN DAY OF VENGEANCE?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Because tiny footprints in our branez wouldn't let us!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Because the CYNICAL IMPATIENCE WITH MEDIOCRE COMIC EVENTS drowned out the YAY BLUE DEVIL cheers.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

If the Internet was around circa Secret Wars II, I don't know that the comic industry would've survived.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Fucked if I'm buying it though, what are the best comics trackers at the moment?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Z¢ult

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

All convention reports I ever read

R/T War is the most boring space war 'epic' I have ever read, Gibbons is totally phoning it in, it reads and indeed looks like the old badly-coloured US reprints of fourth-string 2000AD strips. At least Day of Vengeance has the odd bit of Good Chimp Art and some kind of potential conclusion (either they beat the Spectre or they don't).

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Sorry.

All convention reports I ever read make them sound like the absolute worst kind of sleeves-up 'let's have fun now guys' office sales team meetings. Jeph Loeb and Joe Q playin' pranks on one another before announcing the latest Q3 figures. Clip art by Michael Turner.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh god yes (re: the convention reports): fnar fnar let's be funny while pimping our warez! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS etc.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

what crisis-y thing is actually going to arise from R/T war? Will lots of Thanagarian refugees move to earth and throw the social security system into an INFINITE CRISIS???!!!

― Mark C (Markco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Having heard Greg Rucka's voice, I might be inclined to no longer be a fan of his.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh also DoV has gone to a bit of effort to introduce some - not all, but some - of its characters. Rann/Thanagar War expects you to know all about not one, but two Hawkwomen. And Captain Comet! And CARE about Captain Comet!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Well, at first it looked like Rann/Thanagar was going to tie in to The Return of Donna Troy and develop into some kind of cosmic OH NOES!
But now it just looks like it's doing its own thing, though Onimar Synn could develop into a an Anti-Monitor figure.
I'm kind of enjoying it, despite its distinct lack of a clear narrative. Kyle Rayner seems contractually obliged to utter "Great Guardians" at least once per episode (no doubt a concession his agent offered to Geoff Johns in exchange for not being killed off in GL: Rebirth), and Captain Comet is always fun.
I didn't read the Adam Strange mini, so I'm not sure who the good guys are in this war (other than, y'know, THE GOOD GUYS), since Thanagar is kind of a dick planet, and Rann more or less SUCKS THE BIG ONE, too.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Note: the last issue of TRODT revealed that the Titans of Myth have been operating a Sun-Eater (see classic Legion OSH and so-so mid-90s EVENT Final Night), and YOU KNOW that's gonna be a sore spot for Hal Jordan.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

A Sun-Eater FACTORY, that is.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

Rann/Thanagar sucks because

1) the Adam Strange series was so much better
2) it doesn't really use the Omega Men much

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Aren't the Omega Men pretty much all dead?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

If the Internet was around circa Secret Wars II, I don't know that the comic industry would've survived.

Google's Newsgroup Archives from 1986 talking about Secret Wars II

― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

GOSH.

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&num=10&q=%22infinite+earths%22&safe=off&qt_s=Search&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=17&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=1987

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Jan 26 1985, 7:30 am
From: CS-Mordred!Pucc-H:Pucc-I:Pucc- K:afo (Laurie Sefton)

> Well, since we're in for the duration on the crisis....
> Let's Make Some Predictions!!
> Hero most likely not to be there when we're done: Blue Beetle, most
> definitely. This guy is marked for slaughter.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Reading Golden Age posts is spooky.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

OH MY GOD

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/net.comics/browse_thread/thread/8f3e619b9ebf5593/8c6dda9d0fa697af?lnk=st&q=%22alan+moore%22&rnum=73&hl=en#8c6dda9d0fa697af

Pretty sound!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I AM SO OLD. (I don't remember any of that, but I do remember most of those posters in a few years time).

Haha nice to see the guy dismissing The Anatomy Lesson talking about the Fourth World reprints at the end:

Now all those people who read that "The Pact" was the
greatest comics story ever printed (as some polls show)

Polls are going to change soon, buster.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

uucp ! addresses. Argh.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

If these people were discussing comic books, who was playing ThermoNuclearWar?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh my God! I love those old newsgroups. Thank you so much!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Ha, I like that guy's snarky remark about Moore's shaky grasp on scientific knowledge. It turned out that those famous experiments on the planarian worms that he used for source material for that story were compromised from the get go. The mazes were never properly cleaned between uses by the researchers, which allowed their later worms to follow the right paths out of the maze by sensing chemical markers left over by previously successful mazerunners. They don't acquire memory from each other via cannibalism; that was total bullshit. Led to some good comic books, though.

― Chris F. (servoret), Thursday, 18 August 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

As a long-time Marvel fan, I have to admit that I don't like some of the
changes that have occurred over the last decade. But then, there are others
I do like (would Power Pack have been attempted 10 years ago?). Marvel is
working to stay on top in the market in which they have been dominant for
many years, a market made up of mostly teenage boys. There are a lot of
titles which I used to enjoy which I no longer read, but then, I don't
read Hardy Boys or Freddy the Pig books anymore either. I am trying to
learn to limit my purchases to those I read and enjoy.

Right on, dude.

― Chris F. (servoret), Thursday, 18 August 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Writers, colorist and cover artist announced for 52.

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1111136#post1111136

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Giffen talks 52
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=a6e1a20e639ba26d501d56c1decd4a34&threadid=43492

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

OH FUCK OFF.

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=1202124f88ee7286991f3f6f16be557f&threadid=44553

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

WAIT WAIT - how about a REGULAR SERIES that explains why the one-shot was necessary?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

And then an ORIGINAL GRAPHIC NOVEL that tells the UNTOLD STORY.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

FOr all the talk about how this has been in the works for 2/3 years, I think they don't have a fucking clue what they're doing.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

What - you doubt that they actually planned to use 15 fill-in artists?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Prelude to a Countdown of a Premonition of a Vague Remembrance for the Anniversary of a Post-Dated Cheque.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

This is actually DC's plot to save the comic industry - they employ every Tom, Dick, and Alfonse available to drawr & writer these minis and maxis and spin-offs, thereby creating product that dedicated consumer will buy w/out question, thereby giving DC more money to hire more drawers and writerers to make more books that more people will buy to make them more money etc etc etc.

It's like, um, Trickle Down Economic CRISIS!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

The end result: Ed Benes turns his back on spandex & becomes Alan Moore's new collaborator on Big Numbers.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh, so that's what they mean by Infinite!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Also, Geoff Johns is revealed to be Mark Millar.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Mark Waid is the Anti-Monitor! The eyes don't lie!
http://www.captaincomics.us/readingroom/cganalysis/images/waid.jpg http://www.a-arca.com/v2/images/gibi_artigo_crisis_02_01pq.gif

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Giffen speaks!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=5968

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

That stuff about DeMatteis is really nice.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

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