DC's Showcase Presents OMG SO CHEAP MUST HAVE METAMORPHO!

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HOLY CRAPPERS!
note: it's not mentioned whether or not Showcase Presents: Metamorpho will continue with the CHEAP pricing, but wth.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

Fuck, that attempt at text-linking didn't work, here's the superlong URL:
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=fc0f9636e235813434f50982bd9342a2&threadid=40240

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

Sweet!

I say: I want my OMG SO CHEAP MUST HAVE SUGAR & SPIKE! book.

― Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

I want these things to be in colour but printed on bogroll.

― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

holy!! these are cheap. i saw them at my comix store for the first time today & got excited but i didn't pick any up.

huk should i get the green lantern one??

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

I say: yes. It is freaky-cool. The first 17 issues of Silver Age GL plus Showcase 22-24...

― Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

cool! i actually wanted an old-school GL trade but there did seem to be any on the market. so now i get 500 pages for super-cheap! do you know if the supes stuff is any good?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

Depends on your definition of "good." It's a selection of early Silver Age stories from the late '50s period when Mort Weisinger was on overdrive: extreme density of ideas, extreme wackiness and corniness. (Alan Moore's run on Supreme was a straight-up pastiche of this material.) I think "endearing" might be a better adjective. But, I mean, ten bucks, how wrong can you go?

― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 29 September 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

The later Weisinger stuff might have been better, but there's some good Wayne Boring art in the early stuff, and there are some stories reprinted in the book that I remember as being especially "endearing". The Lori Lemaris flashback, the issue long Imaginary Story about Krypton surviving that I still have as a reprint in an old annual, the first Brainiac story... I suspect that much of it is pretty pedestrian though, since this is the period when the writers were only starting to establish all the neat background material that they would milk dry later. When I was CBRing the run of Action reprinted in the book, I'd routinely skim through the Superman lead feature to get to the Supergirl back-ups, which I think are loads more fun. THAT stuff I'd recommend, if it ever gets a rerelease.

― Chris F. (servoret), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

the superman stuff is far more entertaining than those dreary early Green Lantern comics, where even the Gil Kane artwork is let down by Joe Giella's underpowered inking

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

I haven't even started to read them (I got both), but I was shocked at how thick they are. And I made the mistake of stopping at the comic shop on my way to an evening full of meetings and radio stuff, so I was carting around these giant kidstuff comics for everyone to see.
I'm going to colour in mine.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

(Alan Moore's run on Supreme was a straight-up pastiche of this material.)

ok this sells it for me! my friends got me supreme for my birthday last month & i totally loved it! so it'd be great to check this stuff out.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I just bought those first two (Ward is about right, but I like the dumb science stuff in the GL ones). The price is those two only, I am told, and afterwards they will be priced like the Marvel Essentials. The Metamorpho will be top wacky fun. I will probably skip Jonah Hex. The next two are JLA, which will be fantastic, and the Legion, which will be about the fifteenth time those issues have been reprinted, but well worth it if you don't already have them. I don't know what is after those.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

man you're really missing out if you skip jonah hex - even the early john albano ones are gd reading

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

SPOILER ALERT!!!
"Superman in the White House"

Clark: Of course, Jimmy, if you remembered the Constitution, you'd know that Superman can never be president, because a president must a native-born American, and Superman was...
Jimmy: ...Born on the far-off planet Krypton! Gosh, Mr. Kent, how could I be so stupid?
Clark: Of course, even though Superman can never be president doesn't mean Clark Kent can't! Not the he'd ever think of it, though.

GIANT WINK TO READERS!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 September 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm waiting for my Showcase GL to arrive, but I'm currently reading GL Archives 5, which should be included in Showcase GL 2. This is really cool stuff, I love the pseudo-science, even beyond its silliness, because just the fact that John Broome was aware of the existence of so many cool scientific concepts would enough for me to put him in my list of classics. Plus, the art by Gil Kane is really beautiful. I'm in love with this stuff!!!!

― iodine (iodine), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

I probably won't be getting to my Showcase GL for a while, since I'm so IN LOVE with the Superman one.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

The Fortress of Solitude story is also a clear reference for Alan Moore's "For the Man Who Has Everything".

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

I bet superman's showcase has to be great too...Can't wait for it!

― iodine (iodine), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Green Arrow in 2006!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1401207855/qid=1126953645/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_8/103-4896496-6619830?v=glance&s=books

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Some first thoughts on the Superman volume: http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2005_10_01_wedge_archive.html#112816744859775370.

I'm reading the GL one now, and cringe every time he calls his pal 'Pieface' (editor's note: Hal Jordan's friend, Eskimo mechanic Thomas Kalmaku).

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 2 October 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

The first story in the Superman one is so classic - great "Batman is a dick!" stuff, Huk this one's for you!

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 2 October 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

I cheered when, at some point in the '70s, he reappeared and frostily said "Mind calling me 'Tom'?" or something along those lines. He was never "Pieface" again after that.

― Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 2 October 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

argh!! my friend went to the store and he got the last green lantern one and there are NONE OF THE OTHERS LEFT!!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 2 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

There is only Superman, otherwise. Amazon are selling it, and shops will be restocking, I would think. Metamorpho is due in...a couple of weeks? Then it's monthly thereafter.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 2 October 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

i meant no more copies! and admittedly i did not express that well!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 2 October 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

These are so great!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

I love the way that everytime GL travels to the Anti-Matter Universe of Qward he assumes the exact same pose and says the same "it feels like I'm being torn apart at the seams!"

And all the science weirdness and the business with the GL Corps and the Guardians remaining mysterious is really quite brilliant. Never mind the whole twist on the Lois/Superman dynamic between Carol/Hal.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

So I'm reading the GL now, and I realize that I've read a bunch of these stories before (just a few). Were they reprinted in the 70s/80s? Maybe in digests or something? Cuz I know I scored some great finds in the quarter bins of my youth, but I seriously doubt I would have found early GLs. The earliest issues I remember having were from #90 on (the post-Neal Adams GL/GA stuff)--which I actually prefered, and probably still would, to the Adams-era stuff. Because it had better adventures. Like when they followed Sinestro to Medieval times (or was it a Medieval planet?) or the thrilling crimes of Prof. Ojo, and the SHOCKING revelation behind his name!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'd read a lot of them before and I'm a little vague as to where. There have been all sorts of reprints in 80-Page Giants and 100-Page Specials, and that period when all DC titles were like 52 pages and I think Action kept reprinting early GL stories.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

The Brainiac debut is AWESOME.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it weird that the Braniac inside bears so little resemblance to the one on the cover of that issue? Obviously it's the cover version that survived.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

That's possibly the most revelatory things about these "documents": Just how fluid all of these ideas and concepts were at their genesis! Like Green Lantern's MYSTIC Lamp! And Braniac's headgear/no headgear!
While it's clear that Broome & Schwartz had some sort of a game plan with GL & the Guardians and the Corps, they were surely making most of it up as they went along.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

GOT METAMORPHO! IT'S EVEN BETTER (though more expensive) THAN I EVER DREAMED (not more expensive than I ever dreamed, it was like $23 Cdn, which isn't $15 Cdn, but still pretty okay). Ramona Fradon-A-GO-GO! BEST SHOWCASE PRESENTS EVER.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Until DC Showcase Presents ... ANIMA!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

huk why was it $23?!?!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

The first two, Superman & Green Lantern, were offered at a special introductory price. Metamorpho's price will probably be the regular price for all future editions.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Yes, that's right. I didn't think this one was out until next week, so hadn't been to my comic shop, dammit.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

OMG COMING IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY!!!!

SHOWCASE PRESENTS: GREEN ARROW VOL. 1 TP
Writers: Jack Miller, France Herron, Gardner Fox, Bob Haney, Dave Wood, Dick Wood, Robert Bernstein, and John Broome
Artists: Jack Kirby, George Papp, Mike Sekowsky, Neal Adams, Lee Elias, Bernard Sachs, George Roussos and Jerry Ordway
Collects stories from ADVENTURE COMICS #250-269, WORLD'S FINEST COMICS #95-134, 136, 138 and 140, JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #4 and THE BRAVE & THE BOLD #50, 71 and 85
528 pages, $16.99 US, black & white

SHOWCASE PRESENTS: HOUSE OF MYSTERY VOL. 1 TP
Writers: Joe Orlando, Sergio Aragones, Howie Post, E. Nelson Bridwell, Otto Binder, Robert Kanigher, Jack Oleck, Marv Wolfman, Len Wein, John Albano and Jack Miller
Artists: Joe Orlando, George Roussos, Lee Elias, Doug Wildey, Bernard Baily, Carmine Infantino, Mort Meskin, Neal Adams, Sid Greene, Jack Sparling, Sergio Aragones, Howie Post, Bill Draut, Jim Mooney, Win Mortimer, Jerry Grandanetti, Gil Kane, Wallace Wood, Bernie Wrightson, Alex Toth, Wayne Howard, Al Williamson, John Celardo, Mike Peppe, Tony deZuniga, Leonard Starr, Tom Sutton, Ric Estrada, Ralph Reese, Frank Giacoia, Jim Aparo, Gray Morrow, Don Heck, Russ Heath, Jack Kirby, John Costanza and Nester Redondo
Collects HOUSE OF MYSTERY #174-194
552 pages, $16.99, black & white

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

those old green arrow strips are seriously boring, even w/ (pedestrian by his standards) Kirby artwork, but fuck yeah House of Mystery

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

Jerry Grandanetti! The man who, when my wife transcribed an interview for me (with Eisner, I expect, unless it was Archie Goodwin), became "Jerry Grant and Eddie" and I had to stop and think. Ward is right about even the Kirby art being pretty uninteresting, but I shall have both of these. Are they going to get to ten before they get to Batman?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Well, Batman's got his own line of "Chronicles" or whatever that seems stalled at Vol. 1, but promised to reprint every Batman feature in chronological order IN COLOUR. I can see DC holding off on a Showcase Presents: Batman until they can pimp Silver Age Batman in colour.

I've got the Kirby Green Arrow collection. It's so-so. Seems sorta odd that they're including JLA #4 in the GA collection, since it'll be in the JLA collection due in December (I think). But I'll probably get it because a) I love this shit, and b) it ends with Brave & Bold #85 which is the first appearance of THE BEARD! So, Showcase Presents: Green Arrow Vol. 2 should be pretty wicked.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, they'll be in a real hurry to get that one out...

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Which one?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

I was being sarky about Showcase Presents: Green Arrow Vol. 2, which I was speculating might be a low priority. Then again, my list of guesses would have got pretty fucking long before it included Metamorpho, Jonah Hex or House of Mystery, so what do I know?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Okay, that's what I thought, but I just wanted to make sure my sarcasm-O-sensors were functioning properly.
You are correct of course, since a Green Arrow Vol. 2 would be most 70s material and of quite a different tone than the stuff they're reprinting in Showcase.

I'm not sure which has surprised me more: That they've reprinted all of Metamorpho's Silver Age adventures, that I bought it, or that it's as good as it is! IT IS REALLY GOOD.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

It's like Dan Slott Good.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

hey huk, i'm leaning towards getting one of these things; can you sell me on why metamorpho should be the one??

― dave k, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

My view is that the Superman one takes a lot of beating, but I have read less than a tenth of the Metamorpho so far. Also, the Supes and GL volumes are much cheaper than the Metamorpho.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

takes a lot of beating? can you tell me what you mean by that (as i am probably going to buy it tomorrow?)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:30 (twenty years ago)

Skipping 197 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

haha the funny thing is i prob LOVE comics now more than at any time in the last twenty years (me= jaded old fuck) but lotsa the things i like best don't get much play on ILC (ie Euro comics) or hardly ever get published (schizo, eightball!)

i def. heart the ultimates, which i notice you've changed yr tune abt, slocki

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

dude i have REALLY changed my tune on that... er, song?

i like your take-no-bullshit approach!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still making me way through Showcase Superman, but that amnesia story is aces!

― c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

ooh yes, we should get Superman Family in our shops tomorrow!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

today i realized that showcase presents superman is the best bathroom book EVER.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

has anyone read Superman Family yet? what's it like?

― Mark C (Markco), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Like Superman, with not as good art and more Jimmy (i'm only about 3 issues in).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

i still think it's weird that it's called superman FAMILY when it's all jimmy olsens! wouldn't his "family" be like... supergirl? and possibly krypto?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Don't saddle your socio-cultural hang-ups on the Man of Steel, man!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://world.std.com/~Infinity/rightloop/weirdart/superman_vision.jpg

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

"... I'll short circuit my vision powers permanently!"

Yeah, but possible brain damage to Jimmy? Priceless!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

b-b-but isn't heat vision essentially no different from a laser beam?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Don't saddle your scientific hang-ups on the Man of Steel, man!!

― dave k, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

No wonder he was aware and non-judgmental to Zatanna's IC mindwiping. J'accuse!

― scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

The Jimmy stories are mostly idiotic, but I'm astounded that Huk thinks that the all-Swan art is less good than in Superman.

There are a whole bunch of swamis (these are never a good thing), and every fourth story or so reveals that Superman is Clark Kent but then there is some reason why that isn't conclusive after all - but you do find yourself wondering how many dozen times this has to be revealed before Jimmy spots a pattern.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

the superman's new power story i re-read last night really is the weirdest comic ever.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Is that the one where he shoots a little tiny Superman out of his finger?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

yeah! and then he gets all bitter and depressed about it

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

The angst is my favourite thing about Showcase Supes. The one where he turns into a lion, and Lois tries to take his mind of it by taking him to a matinee--BUT IT'S BEAUTY & THE BEAST!!!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

that is the best. then he lets kids put their heads in his mouth and it's WICKEDLY PERVERSE.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

I also love (and this is in nearly ALL of the 50s/60s DC stuff) the smug disdain for the supernatural. Like, oh, the sorceress who turned Superman into a lion isn't REALLY the Circe of Myth, that would be asking too much of our sophisticated readers. She's really an ageless space-gypsy who picked up a bit of K-dust in her interstellar travels. ANOTHER VICTORY FOR RATIONAL THOUGHT, KIDS!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

i personally love the insane lengths bad guys go to get paid. like the bad guys who construct and publicize a krypton-theme island housing community so they can eventually trick supie into making some diamonds for them.

and supes recognizes the guy BY HIS FINGERPRINT! HAHA!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

THE CLOCK OF SHANDU.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Ha - seeing folks discover the joy of Showcase Superman for the 1st time is like watching the first snowfall of the year.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think I shall buy it after work!

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

You must be quite regular.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

er, xxpost

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

With who?!?!?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Slocki must be very regular. He says Showcase Supes is great bathroom reading and posts about a new story about twice a day .

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Ah. I guess you can tell where my head is.

It's up my ass.

Yeah.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

technically i am RE-discovering it!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

and yes i am.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Ward - you should start a euro comics post. I've bought some based on Tuomas's suggestions, but I think I either need to talk about them or need more suggestions.

Showcase - I got this. It's strange, because the surrealism seems insulated within a semi-boring formula narrative. I mean, I love it, but it never seems as weird as it should be. Like the mini-superman story sounded a lot stranger when I heard about it from gmo than when I actually read it. (That's another thing--these are sort of textureless, so you don't get that much more than the paraphrase). Also, I totally agree on the "everything supernatural is a scam explainable by science" thing!

Another thing that I thought was interesting--these things are incredibly dense. In some issues, almost every line of dialogue is just exposition, to the extent where it sounds like a parody of bad sci-fi or sort self-consciously quirky like Ultimate Future Shock or Arrested Development.

― kenchen, Friday, 31 March 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, further into Showcase Jimmy - perhaps "not as good art" is a little unfair. "Not as boilerplate-y" art is more accurate. Which, mostly, means "better" art, but there's something quite AWESOME about the clockwork style-qua-stylelessness art in the Supes vol. Like, sometimes, it really must be boilerplate, like the Supes flying w/ leg tucked and arm up, it's exact and everywhere. It's, I don't know, EDIFYING. It gives the impression that NO HUMANS WERE INVOLVED IN THE CREATION OF THIS COMIC, IT MERELY SPRUNG FORTH WHOLE AND PERFECT FROM THE PRINTING PRESS. Mechanically divine.
Mind you, Curt Swan's faces, especially in these early Jimmy comics (his later stuff was TOO SWAN-ISH), are amazing and, sort of, I don't know, anti-Kirby. Like, Kirby's all about anger and motion, and Swan, even when he's drawing angry people, there's that roundness to everything that softens it.
I don't know what I'm talking about.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

No, I think y're really getting at interesting stuff there and that I think I should become Bizarro Frank Kogan and say "Think it through more! It's good! Don't stop!"

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Wouldn't Bizarro FK say, "Stop! It's bad! Don't think about it anymore!", or is Normal FK a rude boy?

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha ha, i was up all night reading Kogan's book, I'm obv. contaminated.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://homepage.mac.com/mperpetua/.Public/supermanlion.jpg

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, this is brilliant!

mostly, means "better" art, but there's something quite AWESOME about the clockwork style-qua-stylelessness art in the Supes vol. Like, sometimes, it really must be boilerplate, like the Supes flying w/ leg tucked and arm up, it's exact and everywhere. It's, I don't know, EDIFYING. It gives the impression that NO HUMANS WERE INVOLVED IN THE CREATION OF THIS COMIC, IT MERELY SPRUNG FORTH WHOLE AND PERFECT FROM THE PRINTING PRESS

― kenchen, Monday, 3 April 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Wouldn't Bizarro FK say, "Stop! It's bad! Don't think about it anymore!", or is Normal FK a rude boy?

Technically yes, but I was eating a curry whilst posting so couldn't think as well as typing and eating.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 3 April 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Kogan book not in the Uk 'til the 15th at least! I'm sick of waiting for it!

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 3 April 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

It's strange, because the surrealism seems insulated within a semi-boring formula narrative. I mean, I love it, but it never seems as weird as it should be. Like the mini-superman story sounded a lot stranger when I heard about it from gmo than when I actually read it. (That's another thing--these are sort of textureless, so you don't get that much more than the paraphrase).

I think that part of this is that Silver Age comic books are quite obviously aimed at, you know, *kids*, who have a much higher weirdness treshold than most of us. Much (though by no means all) of the stuff in "Showcase Superman" is only REALLY bizarre if your reference point for it is modern superhero comics; if you place it in the same context as, say, Disney comics or even "Spirou", it ceases being all that unbelievable.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2917/964/400/dick%20hunter%201.jpg

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

And yet, modern superhero books are less believable, or to me at least; so much so that I cannot read them.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

less believable or less convincing?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I mean convincing. I find it easier to accept that Superman can have tiny Supermen flying out of his fingers in the small, constrained set up of the 50s comic--where there are clear parameters even if fantastical, ridiculous things happen--than all that Identity Crisis stuff w/Dr Light raping someone and mindwipes and gritty grimness that is supposed to represent the workings of the real world. Too many questions end up being raised in the Identity Crisis set-up that are never followed through (like where are all the other super-rapists and paedophiles and stuff.) I think continuity also plays a big part in this--that repercussions are meant to last forever, etc.

I'm not thinking this through well as I'm sleepy. Also, I might mean something other than Identity Crisis but there have been so many of those large x-over events that'll change the universe forever recently. What percentage of DC comics of the past few years has been devoted to sorting out 'problems' of continuity. A hell of a lot, and they all seem designed to set up further problems as well, in order to keep the treadmill rolling forever.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

What percentage of DC comics of the past few years has been devoted to sorting out 'problems' of continuity. A hell of a lot, and they all seem designed to set up further problems as well, in order to keep the treadmill rolling forever.

OTMFM

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Do they have a hat with several words in and every year they pull out a couple and then shout "Hey guys, this years it's 'Cosmic Infinity' - who's down to write this one?"

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'd by a comic called Cosmic Infinity if it was plotted by Brendan McCarthy and Shaky Kane, locked in a room with some sort of gas, passing out the plots under the door to Morrison and Milligan to script up. Then back under the door to be turned into ART with help from Boo Cook and Frazer Irving.

― Vic F (Vic Fluro), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

THE MANY POWERS OF SILVER AGE SUPERMAN, PART 2: "SUPER MARBLE-SHOOTING SKILL!"

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 April 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

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