Thanos vs. Darkseid

Starlin has admitted the character is influenced by Jack Kirby's Darkseid:

“ Kirby had done the New Gods, which I thought was terrific. He was over at DC at the time. I came up with some things that were inspired by that. You'd think that Thanos was inspired by Darkseid, but that was not the case when I showed up. In my first Thanos drawings, if he looked like anybody, it was Metron. I had all these different gods and things I wanted to do, which became Thanos and the Titans. Roy Thomas took one look at the guy in the Metron-like chair and said : "Beef him up! If you're going to steal one of the New Gods, at least rip off Darkseid, the really good one!"[3] ”

Darkseid wears a mini skirt and stripper boots so he wins obv.

visually darkseid's a lot cooler/scarier/weirder... though thanos was pretty creepy looking in his first appearance

Darkseid pioneered the barcalounger villain. So him.

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um yeah this was supposed to go here, not the forest swords thread

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i'm just going to go sit over in the corner now

Darkseid is better as an "ultimate bad guy" type of villain, but Thanos is more interesting as a character. I mean, Darkseid is pretty one-dimensional, he basically just wants to rule everything, because... he's evil? Or has he ever been given some characterization beyond that?

whereas Thanos is simply misunderstood?

I agree with Tuomas - Darkseid is more fun (DIE FOR DARKSEID!) but Thanos is a little more fleshed out in terms of character motivations... tough choice for me

This would probably be a lot harder if Grant Morrison had written any Thanos.

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thanos' codpiece looks uncomfortable as fuck in that panel

i'm guessing h4a's pic is from thanos' very first appearance, before starlin had got the codpiece dimension fully worked out

also, mongul:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/dc/Mongulgibbson2.png/250px-Mongulgibbson2.png

Thanos is a pale imitation/ripoff of Darkseid imho, who is probably the greatest comic villain ever bar maybe Galactus

also, darth vader is a pale imitation/ripoff of Darkseid, not Thanos

I looked at the 1st issue of that recent Thanos miniseries and it turns out he's a tough guy because...he was picked on as a child....? omfgwtfnooooo

Unless they added some more personality to him as that went on, I dunno...

Best that we believe that THANOS mini series never happened.

And normally I care about *why* a character does stuff (specially if I'm writing it), but it's more interesting when they *do* stuff. Darkseid does a lot of stuff. Sure, Thanos does too. But Anti-Life is more horrifying than mere death.

I was searching for 'Anti-Life Equation' on google after reading this thread and this stuff came up. Does ilx have a thread for unlikable internet marketing campaigns that re-tweet David Icke?

http://www.theantilife.com/

https://twitter.com/theantilifeuk

wtf is this

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bugger

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literally

"This would probably be a lot harder if Grant Morrison had written any Thanos."

― Andrew Farrell

I think you can say though that Jim Starlin's big Warlock/Captain Marvel/Thanos storyline is a pretty big influence on Grant Morrison's super hero comic writing. Morrison himself has said he was a big fan of those comics.

In some ways, Starlin's take on these kind of "cosmic" super hero tales is really the next generation on Kirby's mad scientist originator of kind of comic tale. Starlin also was one of the few creators that got to go back and do a second chapter on it when he went back and did The Infinity Gauntlet tied Thanos comics.

I wish I liked starlins art more, I do love his acid-soaked vibe. Something about his and gulacy's art in the seventies just puts me right the hell off.

so many lovingly detailed renditions of feathered hair

Thanos had a better smile, right?

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i'm a Marvel Zombie and still had to vote for Darkseid, love Thanos but yeah, straight rip and here the original is best

I really don't get what Darkseid's point is in the last panel. I think the cosmic joke escapes me too.

Darkseid is the face of evil that lurks within us all, but the poor human can't abide it

Oh ok. That is funny.

Darkseid is evil grandpa

Cosmically formed joeks

Life is a cosmic joke; ANTI-LIFE IS THE SOLUTION.

thank you for my next t-shirt slogan

Does Darkseid spend a lot of time hanging around theme parks unnerving children and the elderly? Pretty evil.

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Too close.

who the hell is #teamthanos

I voted for Thanos. I've only read a few newer stories with both, but the fact that Geoff Johnns wrote the latest Darkseid-saga sealed the deal for me.

Darkseid is an imposing presence in all his comics, but he really doesn't do as much as say Kronos, who is way more of a 'go-getter' in the actual plot of the comics. Darkseid is often always just sending out his lackeys to do the work then berating them because they are totally incompetent, that's way more of a middle management style for me.

xp i dunno that seems like saying the punisher is a better character than spider man because of dan slott

btw, i've been reading the superior spider man from last year and hooboy dan slott is horrible

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cPz6vivH-Nc/UZjCxpGsVtI/AAAAAAAAAJI/YK8oPQ2hnuY/s1600/Picture+1.png

I like Slott's She-Hulk series and his Avengers: The Initiative work, but yeah, I don't get the love for his Spidey run.

i do appreciate the fact that he made the cola competitor logo to mirror the marvel logo from the 90's

highlight of the run right there.

xp i dunno that seems like saying the punisher is a better character than spider man because of dan slott

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Well, my situation would be like only having read the slott spiderman and the rucka punisher, and yeah, i would vote for punisher. even though i know about leeditko and all that.

I'm reading through the Avengers vs. Thanos 70s trade right now. It is interesting to read this story compiled this way, as I don't think I had ever read the Steve Gerber (w/Starlin) Daredevil issues that introduced Moon Dragon. This stuff had been compiled a couple of different ways over the years. I read it in the 80s with the Starlin Captain Marvel and Warlock baxter reprints and had the Marvel Two-In-One and the Avengers annual issue. This new trade puts the whole thing into a reading order. Really there is only 2 Avengers comic's in the collection Avengers 125 and Annual 7. The Avengers is guest stars in the Captain Marvel comics and show up in the Marvel Two-In-One issues.

Infinity is getting a bit snoozy.

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lol

My God, I never realized that Thanos is nicked from Thanatos, which stories tell of Starlin getting way into his psychological concepts in the 70s, like Starfox is apparently Eros or some such.

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I am disappointed by how short and one-sided this thread is!

Thanos needs to get hauled off by the NYPD and have his copter confiscated at the end of Infinity War.

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i don't think anyone can deny that having your name emblazoned on your personal helicopter is baller as fuck but damn thanos looks super-uncomfortable crammed into that cockpit

Do you find something comical about his appearance when he is piloting his helicopter? Every super-villain needs to fly an aircraft, even the very large. That was the largest copter he could afford.

I'd like (not) to see the gritty variation where Thanos grabs some airport mechanic by the throat and forces him to paint the name on the helicopter he decides to steal, then throws him to Hoboken.