The Shipping Hits the Fans: Sep. 21, 2005

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SEVEN SOLDIERS MISTER MIRACLE #1 (OF 4) $2.99 - despite the artist being replaced after the first issue, I can't wait...
SLEEPER VOL 4 THE LONG WAY HOME TP (MR) $14.99 - really enjoying this series, this is the final volume & I've actually been waiting to read it as a collection for reasons I don't quite understand
NEW AVENGERS #10 $2.50 - is it me, or is this series shipping, like, every other week? Not that I'm complaining
ULTIMATES 2 #8 $2.99 - gimme gimme widescreen action!
ACME NOVELTY LIBRARY HC $27.50 - actually already read & reviewed this, and as much as Ware frustrates me, he really is in a class of his own

― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

ESSENTIAL GHOST RIDER OH YEAH

― Vic Fluro, Monday, 19 September 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Wow, a big week for me:

Lucifer
Sleeper vol. 4 (FINALLY!)
SS: Mr. Miracle
Top Ten: BtFP #2
Runaways
Wolverine #32 (Millar + the Holocaust = I've got a bad feeling about this...)

And don't forget TRUE INDIE PR0N!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

CAPPIN AMERIKA!!!

― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

DAY OF VENGEANCE #6 (OF 6) - Shazam vs Spectre! ONLY THE SPECTRE CAN WIN, BECAUSE HE'S ON THE COVER OF COMICS COMING OUT IN DECEMBER
GREEN LANTERN CORPS RECHARGE #1 (OF 6) - This is gonna be way better than the ongoing GL title. Gleason's preview art looks sweet.
JSA CLASSIFIED #3 - There is no reason for me to be ashamed of buying this book.
SUPERGIRL #2 - There are so many reasons for me to be ashamed of buying this book.
CAPTAIN AMERICA #10 - GUEST STARRING BLACK LIGHTNING! (this is a House of M x-over, isn't it?)

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

people tell me more about the top ten thing, will it do me for soapy type developments with the characters + wit?

basically is it any good.

― tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Who's on Mister Miracle now, then?

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

The guy who drew those tiny "Advent Rising" inserts that came with DC's mainstream comics a couple of months ago. He's pretty lame.

I really want those Kamandi archives...

― iodine (iodine), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

When are those goddamned Showcase Presents cheapo reprints coming?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Next week, Huck!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Tom, I thought the first issue of the new Top 10 was surprisingly good. The tone was right, it was pretty funny (I think?) and I'm a sucker for those characters. It was definitely good enough for me to keep buying it, anyway.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

(I mean, it's not Alan Moore but that's a given)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

the first six pages or whatever was in that preview were totally dire

― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

I was probably expecting it to be much worse.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

My bike died and city transit is on strike, so NO COMICS FOR ME today! BOO!

But I did take my bike to a used book store in a bad part of town yesterday and scored a fucking heap of goofy World's Finests from 75/76, the final Challengers of the Unknown issue from the 70s with art by a virtually unrecognizable Keith Giffen (and guest-starring Deadman and Swamp Thing...in the year 12 Million A.D.!!!), #s 3-7 of the 80s The Question series, all three Sword of the Atom specials, and a couple of DC Comics Presents! All for $10 (CDN).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

expect scans of comical panels by the weekend!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

JUL050227 GREEN LANTERN CORPS RECHARGE #1 (OF 6) $3.50
JUL050239 JSA CLASSIFIED #3 $2.50
JUL050251 SEVEN SOLDIERS MISTER MIRACLE #1 (OF 4) $2.99
JUL051858 ULTIMATES 2 #8 $2.99

AM I BORING?

― J (Jay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

There's a nice cheeky x-over joke at the back of Firestorm, this week. (Although don't actually buy it, obv, for God's sake.) Recharge looked fun in the store.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

cappin america was good, for being part of house of m madness.
supergirl was.. interesting, but i barely could remember what happened in the last issue.
new avengers was okay. kinda verbose. but not whacky verbose, just boring verbose.

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

Is that chris ware hc collected from other stuff or is this all new material?

― kenchen, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

it's stuff from the two towel-sized issues of Acme.

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

Stray Bullets # whatever: Amusing, but only because I've seen all those Kurosawa movies he was paying homage to. I think the next in-continuity issue will determine whether I keep reading this series or not since it's gotten so slight lately, sort of like the high school issues of Zot! minus their charm and realism.

Mister Miracle #1: OK, I feel a little bit better about this Seven Soldiers thing now. Reworked material from "Rock of Ages", Seaguy, and The Filth, and it's not insufferably elliptical-- not bad.

Plus I got the last Sleeper trade.

― Chris F. (servoret), Thursday, 22 September 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

Lucifer was pretty good, they slipped in a silly one-off issue right when the whole main arc seemed to be at its peak.

Top 10 = okay. I still think that the writer has nailed the tone, even if the jokes aren't as good as AM's.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

I really liked Supergirl #1, but I didn't like #2.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and Runaways was fun as usual, although their eyes really do get bigger every issue.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

GLC: Recharge was a lot of fun.
JSA:C also fun. Mostly because of the art.
Teen Titans/Outsiders Secret Files, fuck am I stupid.
Day of Vengeance had some good moments, but was overall...I don't know. Would it have killed them to stick in TO BE CONTINUED IN GOTHAM CENTRAL at the end?
Captain America I haven't finished yet. I found it really boring, since I haven't followed any other House of M bizz. Also, I was tired.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

they probably didn't have space to list all the books that Day of Vengeance will be continued in - after all, the entire DCU will never be the same again blah blah

― Mark C (Markco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but that's clearly what they were building toward and Gotham Central could use the extra ink.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

SS:MM 1: Dissapointing...
Ultimates: They stole Bucky! This continues to be great, it's the rare sort of story I've never really read in a superhero book before. I sense the Captain American "traitor" thing's gonna be a red herring, though... it'll be a let-down if this turns out to be all down to Thor's brother, whathisname.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Apparently the proper new ish of Acme Novelty will be coming out in November.

― Chriddof (Chriddof), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

I kind of hated Mr. Mircale.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

fuck Acme, Essential Ghost Rider Vol One looks the biz

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

having now read DoV - I did quite enjoy it but the ending was a bit rubbish. should have ended with the big rock thing blowing up and everyone looking appalled and then said "continued in INFINITIE CRISIS!!11!!" or something. Assume the wizazd isn't actually dead or else Captain Marvel is unusable forever!

Birds of Prey was OK, justa transition issue between two big arcs - I liked the Bruce Timm part with Black Canary

JSA Classified was quite good too - I am now waiting for the Guaranteed Disappointing Geoff Johns final issue.

― Mark C (Markco), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

Essential Ghost Rider not quite as good as it looks. His best friend (apart from CRASH SIMPSON) is Jesus, but Jesus is referred to constantly as "my special 'friend' who I'm not quite ready to admit I know the truth about", which just sounds like Jesus is gay. There's a real lo-fi Dungeons And Dragons 70's Satanism vibe to the whole thing, as Johnny Blaze teams up with all the other satanic superheroes (ie Son of Satan and Daredevil) to really maximise the 'not suitable for children' value. And the SPOILERRIFIC final fate of Jesus definitely makes it look like God is for chumps!

― Vic Fluro, Friday, 23 September 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

I think Day of Vengeance is actually going TO BE CONTINUED in GOTHAM CENTRAL! No lie!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Maybe they'll do a spin-off - CSI: GOTHAM. W/ Detective Chimp & Nightshade.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Oh, Batman will be so mad. If his crusade on crime has achieved nothing else, it has at least rid Gotham of talking monkeys.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

You know how that Morrison/Waid Flash run had all the speedy guys hanging out together? I want a hero or villain team that brings together all of the talking monkeys.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Morrison would be the one to make that happen. With art by... I was going to suggest Ed McGuinness, but his talking apes all look the same...

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Chris Weston does a good monkey.

― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

I can only think of Detective Chimp and Beppo the Supermonkey (aka the primate batman and superman) to be goodies.

― Mark C (Markco), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.grovel.org.uk/reviews/filth01/filth03.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

The Red Ghost's Superapes weren't evil as such, they were only misled by their cruel master... JUST LIKE THE COMMUNIST MASSES!

― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

There's also Congorilla!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Gorilla Grodd should totally go good.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

He could pretend to be good, but only so he can betray the Monkeys of Righteousness from within! that plot has never ever been done before!

― Mark C (Markco), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

That's the brightest idea I've ever heard.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

That Solivar guy. Does he even still exist post-Crisis?

― The Yellow Kid, Friday, 23 September 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

He died in the Crisis, but I think he was referenced the last time Flash went to Gorilla City, circa #195.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

Gorilla Your Dreams!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

MISTER MIRACLE 1: I don't see how this is "Invisibles II" or anything but it did feel like a big jump into a new and unrelated story after the last couple of 7S issues. Nice art, shame he's been fired (why couldnt they have fired Jeph bloody Loeb when HE went exclusive hmm).

GLC: RECHARGE 1: Pleasant surprise of the week, I always like 'recruitment' stories. Nothing spectacular but the cast fit together pretty good, nice art, a solid read.

DAY OF VENGEANCE 6: Well, that's that, it got better as it went along, I have no desire to read about the further adventures of this lot tho.

ULTIMATES 8: A good story which would have been a lot better if I hadn't read any comics news sites for the last few months, as it was this felt like an entertaining placeholder before the (hopefully) big surprises next month.

NEW AVENGERS 10: This arc started nicely and then got astoundingly boring, this is the third issue in a row of characters sitting around explaining the Sentry to each other - I remember this was originally planned as a 3-issue arc and it strongly suggests to me that whoever is 'editing' Bendis has zero editorial mandate. Also where are the actual Avengers here?? As in, not Emma Frost and Reed Richards?

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 25 September 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

is the 'woe i am out of place in this modern america' something that gets played up alot with captain america? this (ultimates) is the first comix i've read with him in a prominent role (in the past he's just popped up - runaways, alias - everybody goes 'woah - that's captain america' and that's about it). it seemed the main point of this issue was (finally) eliminating him as the possible villain, 'blowing our minds' with omg can you believes that happened to captain america holy moly shit is going down. which didn't mean much to me cuz still the most exposure/meaning i've had from the guy is in the marvel vs. capcom games where he's not a bad pick cuz he's got that shield he can throw. also - does he normally spend this little time in uniform? also is his personality here a result of 'how do we make him interesting? i know - what is we made him an asshole?'?

― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

Well in the "real" comics, it's been decades since he was brought back. Though by the usual comics-to-realtime fuckery, it's probably only officially six months.

I think to an extent your last question is the approach that Millar tries first with everyone. Ed Brubaker's supposed to be writing a good Captain America at the moment (and I have to pause and consider how unlikely that sentence looked 10 years ago).

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 25 September 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

Brubaker IS writing a good captain america.. the first collection just came out in hardback. wait for the trade or check yr library or something. the last issue was an interruption for "house of m" silliness, but it was good for what it was (a "what if?" style captain america story.) But let's please advance the plot! I'm starting to get antsy.

Bendis's captain america in New Avengers is kinda mediocre/vanilla. And I agree with Tom that that issue went nowhere and was fucking boring as hell. NEW ARC PLEASE. SHIELD CORRUPTION/SAVAGELAND PLEASE.

― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 25 September 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

BUT... i guess if the Sentry comes out well AS A CHARACTER and fits in with the rest of the TEAM, it could go well and the lengthy introduction could be justified. (kinda.)

― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 25 September 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I don't think Bendis knows how to write Cap, I think he just thinks the guy should be in the Avengers.

The 'man out of time' stuff is something most Cap writers reach for eventually, Millar exaggerates it quite a lot but Brubaker has touched on it and so have a few others - in mainstream continuity he's one of those characters who has been around a LOT and seen a lot of stuff so there's always a temptation to write him as a bit world-weary, actually the character Brubaker CA most reminds me of is Judge Dredd - that same conflict between his mission and symbolic role and his weariness.

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 25 September 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Millar exaggerates it because the frozen period is so much longer than in the regular Marvel Universe, and because Cap has only been thawed for a very short period of time, as opposed to having had 500 adventures in the modern world and many relationships and so on.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 September 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

in mainstream continuity he's one of those characters who has been around a LOT and seen a lot of stuff so there's always a temptation to write him as a bit world-weary

I always wondered about that back when I was reading Marvel superhero books regularly. The writers would always play up the amazing amount of combat/superheroing experience that made him the perfect tactical genius or whatever, but in the continuity that they established for him, he was only active during the war for maybe three or four years (if I remember correctly, he was supposed to have gone into hibernation sometime in 1944 and his comic started in 1941). I'm guessing he would have been somewhere between 18 to 20 when he got conscripted, so he would have been less than 25 biologically when he got thawed out, i.e. not very grizzled. Plus he never fought truly super-powered guys at all during the Golden Age, did he? Considering that all the other big superheroes had been doing their thing for a while already by the time he was revived, it doesn't really seem like he had much of a jump on them experientially. The writers always trotted out that line about him having unmatchable extra decades of specialized superheroing experience, but it was never actually true in-continuity!

― Chris F. (servoret), Monday, 26 September 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

Has Marvel ever done anything like DC's doomed Ten Year Timeline, an attempt to establish how long ago stuff actually happened? They are probably dissuaded from doing so by things like Cap and Magneto and other WWII-related backstories (does DC have anything similar?)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

Marvel has something pretty similar, doesn't it? Tony Stark got his heart shrapnel in the Gulf War, etc.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

In DC, the original JSA had to disband due to McCarthyism, also they had various WW2 shenanigans.

― Mark C (Markco), Monday, 26 September 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

Of course, yes.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 26 September 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

See, I'd argue that the best thing about The Ultimates is that it's the first time anyone has done the actual Avengers with the honesty to portray them as what they actually are - corrupt tools of The Man! So that's a great starting point, and he gets to screw with your head along the way as he makes you learn to like some of these people, and when Cap finally gets his ass handed to him, you're kinda sad instead of thrilled.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

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