Marvel UK -- C/D?

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I don't know any of these.

I like that last cover.

Cristal Waters (nordicskilla), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Death's Head! He's a Transformer bounty hunter! He had an elf sidekick! He met Doctor Who and the Fantasic Four! He got cancelled really quickly -- twice!

...never mind.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Remember in the early 90s when Marvel US was selling Marvel UK books to suckers like me? Motormouth? Dark Angel? Oh, yeah.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Sleaze Brothers too?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

There was some x-over event, too.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

MyS-TECH Wars! Where every Marvel US superhero gets killed by Bryan Hitch! Looking back, it's awful, but a 13-year-old me loved it, sad to say.

Classic: Moore's Captain Britain, obviously. All Furman-written Transformers UK, especially the Galvatron/Time travel stories. The original Death's Head appearances in TF UK and his first series + the graphic novel (I think it's called The Lives And Times of Death's Head). Grant Morrison's Zoids! (in the last few issues, it suddenly turns into a proto-Invisibles, hilariously enough)

Oh, and not forgetting the original Knights of Pendragon series by Abnett, Lanning, and Alan Davis (the second series is abysmal, though). And Dark Guard has nice Carlos Pacheo art if nothing else.

Dud: Most of the post-TF UK comics were fairly risible. Warheads, Death's Head II, Death^3, Death Wreck (they really drove Death's Head into the ground after Furman left), Hells/Dark Angel, and Motormouth & Killpower were pretty bad, but the second wave, including titles such as Genetix, Death's Head & Die-Cut, Shadow Riders, Wild Things, and Cyberspace 3000 were a waste of ink. I know this because I bought almost every one of them…I even have trading cards somewhere…

Plus, Neil Tennant worked for them! So, classic, naturally.

carson dial (carson dial), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Black Axe: He's ten thousand years old, and he has a HUGE AXE!

http://www.snappishproductions.com/blog/archives/blackaxe.jpg


carson dial (carson dial), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, and that Death's Head graphic novel was "The Body In Question" (also serialised in Marvel UK's STRIP anthology.

carson dial (carson dial), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

and he takes NO SHORTCUTS!

Amadeo (Amadeo G.), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Basically, magazine size Marvel UK - classic, comic size Marvel UK - dud!

What happened at the end of Zoids??

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember vividly that it was about to go somewhere, with Evil Earth corporations moving to get a specimen of the Zoids, and the 4D alien kids who controlled the giant toys (DO YOU SEE ETC) making an appearance, but then the comic ended.

Vic Fluro, Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Also have we so soon forgotten the SECRET ARTIST?

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Zoids UK (4d aliens in issue 50)

carson dial (carson dial), Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:38 (eighteen years ago) link

classic - the issues of Killraven that were converted into 'Apeslayer' comics when Marvel UK ran out of Planet of the Apes strips to reprint

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 25 September 2005 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

the Secret Artist must surely have influenced someone somewhere. Next week at Dreddcon I'll ask around.

Vic Fluro, Sunday, 25 September 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Do Pow, Fantastic and like-minded Oghams reprints count?

Vic Fluro, Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Deaths Head - classic, yes?

David N (David N.), Sunday, 25 September 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Two real this-will-be-shit-from-now-on-no-turning-back points:

i) Frankly rubbish New Age superhero Hell's Angel changing her name to Dark Angel and the writers trying to give her a proper reason for this, rather than (I presume) legal threats...

ii) Death's Head II gets a feisty, busty sidekick with facial tattoos and little in the way of clothing. Her name is Tuck.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:27 (eighteen years ago) link

seventeen years pass...

It's funny how it sometimes feels like almost every Marvel character has been adapted for film or TV, but no-one has ever done Death's Head? I think an Adult Swim Death's Head animated series could work, feel he's well suited to a comedy tv series as a character who turns up in the middle of other people's stories and is detached from everything going on around him - I think this aspect came directly from him originally appearing in the Transformers comics, and the basic set up of the Transformers not making much sense/not being a promising basis for compelling stories, because it was created as a backstory around a pre-existing toyline, so you had these stories where everyone was taking very seriously this inane conflict between the good robots and the bad robots, and then you drop Death's Head into the middle of it who doesn't care about any of that at all.

This seems like a common thing for UK comics of the 80s, I remember reading an interview with Pat Mills where he talked about how when he was writing Marshal Law he'd read bad American superhero comics and imagine Marshal Law showing up partway through to shoot everyone, or how many Judge Dredd strips were a pastiche of some other kind of story with Dredd showing up in the middle and acting in a predictable way, more of a plot device than a character, and the joke is that he's in a different register to everyone else, doesn't care what the story is 'supposed' to be about?

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

the design of his face was so good, it's like an old Felix the Cat style cartoon character or an emoji in how it's simple and almost deadpan but expressive as well

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,q_60,w_1315/d5wmd08oc3g0wqpjz0vg.jpg

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 10:46 (one year ago) link

basic set up of the Transformers not making much sense/not being a promising basis for compelling stories,

Oi! Transformers UK's imperial phase (#78-205) was a standout considering the bare-bones genesis of the toyline. With some impressive violence for the under-10s (but it's okay, you can stick a harpoon through a character's head, because they're only a robot!).

carson dial, Friday, 2 June 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link

I don’t think even Simon Furman figured out what to do with Death’s Head, let alone Marvel or Adult Swim. Is he the best ever character to never (or only rarely) be in a good comic?

There is something melancholy and bathetic about him that seems uniquely British and unsuited to the larger MCU - I’m sure Marvel could’ve turned him into a more popular, coarser, ultraviolent character like Lobo (or Deaths Head II!) but somehow that never happened

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 5 June 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link

they try to insert him into a story every once in a while and it never quite hits

mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

Death's Head is the only character I followed out of TF in much the same way I followed Geoff Senior's art out of TF - checking out anything else his name was on for a few years. V right place right time for me. I guess GOTG would've been the best fit for a DH cameo, otherwise maybe in a Marvel F4 movie just as a nod to their Senior-drawn clash in the original DH series.

nashwan, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 12:09 (one year ago) link

man i loved geoff senior's art - such a brilliantly chunky style

he should have been a much bigger name than he ended up being

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 12:20 (one year ago) link

Is he the best ever character to never (or only rarely) be in a good comic?

There is something melancholy and bathetic about him that seems uniquely British and unsuited to the larger MCU

I was thinking that the other Marvel character Death's Head most reminds me of is maybe Howard the Duck - 'trapped in a world he never made', frequently exasperated, fatalistic. The original Steve Gerber scripted Howard stories are obviously much better than anything Death's Head has appeared in though (so far)

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 12:37 (one year ago) link

I imagine there's a lot of cool characters who never appeared in a legit good comic.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link


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