yeah, but at the time i think it would have gone over most readers' heads.
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
it's interesting because in many ways it's the exact opposite of Pullman's His Dark Materials but at some point near the end of both you find yourself really rooting for an apocalypse to come sweeping through and get rid of all the people doing things you think are stupid
or maybe that's just me
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
His Dark Materials I remember a little better - first book was ace, second one was pretty good, third one was still creative but I remember thinking the end was disappointing
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
felt the same way about 'green eggs and ham'
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Lately I've gotten the notion while reading fiction that writing a good ending is really, really difficult. I've run into trite endings and a few that didn't make any sense at all.
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
xp LOL
It started early for you, then.
i want to say yes.....
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Damned fish in '1 fish, 2 fish' got on my nerves, too.
― Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
agree with you on endings, particularly with anything fantasy-y
There has to be a word for that
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Stephen King Syndrome
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
lol, funnily enough I was thinking specifically of a book by Stephen King's son, Joe Hill (_Horns_). Great concept, the end is a mishmash of wtf happened?
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
At least w Stephen King I usually understand what he was trying to get at...
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
no, i meant fantasy-y
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Pat endings don't satisfy. Many non-ending endings don't satisfy. Improbable endings don't satisfy. One of the things I most adored about Maugham short stories as a kid was how often they had perfect endings.
― Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Also took it into my head to read the first _30 Days of Night_ graphic novel which was all great concept and terrible everything else.
the movie is actually pretty decent
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
xp Michael, that's how I felt about Ray Bradbury short stories when I was younger, but now I'm afraid to go back and re-read them because I'm afraid I'll think they suck now
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
they don't, not at all
"The Veldt" is still terrifying
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Dan - it's in my Netflix queue, just haven't been in a vampire-y mood since reading that. Loved the first two _Walking Dead_ graphic novels and am lobbying for more of them for Mother's Day.
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, man, "The Veldt" is what got me hooked...
I used to go to the library and use the CARD CATALOG to find Bradbury books that weren't on the HSTNGS shelves. I remember using little slips of paper to make requests. Sometimes it even worked!
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.veddma.com/veddma/Veldt.htm
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Man, I love the internets...
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah after a bunch of musing I recently realized that in retrospect I pretty much hated the Panera series as well.
― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
well what do you expect when you read a series that's about Caesar salad flavored coffee drinks?
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
to be up all night burping anchovies
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I feel like there's probably some lower GI effects possible here, too, but I'll refrain from elaborating.
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I come to bury caeser, not to make pastries and beverages that taste like him
― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
there's an obvious, environmentally conscious solution here that will save you time...
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
SOYLENT GREEN IS CAESAR!!!
btw everyone here loves me enough to go buy a copy of The Mountain Goats' All Eternals Deck this week, right
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link
You get a royalty? Niiiice, I figured you got a flat fee.
― The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
no royalties, I just want to be able to say "I was on an album that debuted in Billboard's Top 200"
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, I was making a horribly formed not-even-a-joke. Congrats on being on the record, btw!
― The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
^_^ TY
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
whoa, I didn't know about that! Cool!!!
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess I'd better try to find some spending money!
maybe you could sell some of your magic beans that you grow in imaginationville
― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll sell you a thousand acres there. I think you'll like it, as long as you stay away from some of the stupider stuff (if you see someone sparkling in the sunlight, RUN!).
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
oh no, you have ravers
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
haven't figured out how to eradicate them yet
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
tried feeding them the magic beans, but that just led to unpleasant intestinal problems for them, which quickly becomes a problem for everyone else
PS John - do NOT eat the magic beans!
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
you can repel them with liberal doses of Nickelback
side-effects include: having to listen to Nickelback
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
lol, could be worse
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
a neverending loop of "Achy Breaky Heart" will repel *anything*
you can also thin them out by asking to see their resumes
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
but the ones who stay will be super-persistent and will regale you with tales of their work experience, so it's best to use this strategy judiciously
― Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link