shhhhh secret thread to talk about music without getting into a high-pitched ilm shriekfest on whatever thread is going on atm

btw John, are you just going to use this thread to go "this band that currently has a poll thread on ILM, I do not like them *arms crossed*"?

Man oh man do I ever dislike soundgarden

― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

That song/video makes me irrationally angry.

btw John, are you just going to use this thread to go "this band that currently has a poll thread on ILM, I do not like them *arms crossed*"?

― DALEKS OF GOD (DJP), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:40 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

pretty sure that is exactly what you should use it for.

I was thinking I should defend everyone but considering we've started with U2 and Soundgarden that may end in tears for me

option a - show up in ilm thread with "duh this band sucks durr durr"
option b - this thread

because srsly soundgarden is some sort of i have no mouth but i must scream impulse for me so best to be done with it

no love for "Spoonman"?

okay literally I started laughing the instant I hit submit post

PLAYING TEH METAL WITH HIS HAAAHAHAAAHHHNDDDS

KILL ME

pretty sure grunge did more to destroy basic singing skills than any other form of music

lyrics dont have enough syllables? well just fucking add as many as you want!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0_zzCLLRvE&ob=av3e

lol this is funnier than I remembered

xp: um you remember punk happened, right

bah punk is stylistic, these people got accolades for being singers.

you know whats better than a vowel sound? ALL OF THE VOWEL SOUNDS IN A ROW ALL THE TIME

was going to go all techy and use formant but theres no need for this dumb thread to go highbrow

let me try another tack:

um you remember that hair metal happened, right

because the funniest thing about "Spoonman" to me is that dude sings it like it's "The Final Countdown"

yeah idk for me its half the vowel thing and half the "plz allow me to chew all these consonants as much as possible nom nom"

"i am growling all these words because i am so fake tortured and saddo"

also can I just point out that invoking "stylistic" as a defense for one form of terrible, terrible singing over the other essentially says "I have no defensible argument, I just like one more than the other"

also no one abused vowels more than homegirl from The Cranberries

nah i disagree with that, grunge specifically presented the singer as some sort of auteur, and lots of people hold up people like eddie vedder as great technical singers - nobody is saying that about henry rollins.

cranberries otm tho.

also there isnt really a punk vocal style per se, unless you wanna get into intangibles like snarl or attitude or fake englishmen or some other such bullshit - but grunge does have this sorta central baritone except when they try to hit notes they cant chewy sorta character to it

no one on Earth who has any conception of how singing works thinks any of the grunge singers are great technical singers

some of them had very strong senses of pitch (hi dere Kurt Cobain) but the early 00s spawn they inspired (aside from dude in Staind) are all actually much better singers, like for example I'm never going to by a Chad Kroger/Nickelback CD but I am fully prepared to say he's a better singer than any of the grunge heyday folks except possibly the dudes in Alice In Chains (whom I only caveat because I only know one song of theirs that I haven't heard in literally a decade)

when arguments like "the grunge guys were all amazing singers with great technique" come around, it makes me weep for how poor music education in this country is

being able to growl in tune does not make you a great singer

JJusten OTM X 1000

growling in tune is not the worst way for an untalented singer to approach it tbh

My favorite punk vocalist is H.R. -- no idea if he's a good singer or not though.

I would say he is a great singer, personally; a little nasal at times in his technique but it's a very distinctive, evocative sound (if not the most flexible, but then again he's not doing a lot that requires being nimble)

i want to talk about killing joke extremities etc but i dont want to deal with the overload of "lol alexnyc <3s killing joke wtf omg?!??!" in the search function.

let me start with the measured response of i dont listen to this all the time and in this way i am wasting my life

kreayshawn and her song "gucci gucci" makes me want to drink bleach

Foster the People are on some low rent "can we get some guys that look like a less douchey version of 3OH3" MGMT first album bullshit

the Kreayshawn adulation just reminds me that most (if not all) guys have a type which will make them excuse practically any old shit

I have yet to hear Foster The People and I'm holding onto that for as long as I can

fight hard fight strong they are crazy mediocre

the Kreayshawn adulation just reminds me that most (if not all) guys have a type which will make them excuse practically any old shit

― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:05 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

iirc her fanbase is largely girls?

sorry let me amend that:

the Kreayshawn adulation on ILM just reminds me that most (if not all) guys have a type which will make them excuse practically any old shit, plus ppl younger than me have no taste and won't get off my lawn *shakes walker*

this type thing worries me because to me she looks like she is about 15

the Kreayshawn adulation on ILM just reminds me that most (if not all) guys have a type which will make them excuse practically any old shit, plus ppl younger than me have no taste and won't get off my lawn *shakes walker*

― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:10 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

ehh this is still condescending and inaccurate

shhhhh secret thread to talk about music without getting into a high-pitched ilm shriekfest on whatever thread is going on atm

lol

how condescending of me to say I'm old and out of touch with what people like

i meant more the thing about how we must have crushes on the artist vs. it being a well constructed song from a distinct personality but w/e thats not for this thread

I agree it's not for this thread but the point is that I am speaking as a knowingly unreliable narrator, or IOW stop taking everything so seriously sometimes it is just joeks

ahh

like yes, I honestly am not that big on Kreyashawn, but no I don't actually think every guy who does like her only does so because they want to bone her

Ciara otoh...

you can't argue in here -- this is the idiot thread repository

im being srscat today for w/e reason

Something about Kreyashawn's voice is nails-on-chalkboard to me. Like, if she were somewhere merely talking to her friends in that voice, I would have to leave the room.