"baby I was born like this"
― pretty krulls make glaives (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:40 (ten years ago) link
something something SURFBOARD SURFBOARD
― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link
I am not going to lie, it is incredibly thrilling and life-affirming to me to hear one of the biggest pop stars of our time singing "I'm so brown/Bow down bitches"; it's basically the early/mid 90s all over again
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2014 01:52 (ten years ago) link
what about that line resonated with you? not being snarky at all; genuinely curious.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 24 January 2014 01:54 (ten years ago) link
The past... 2+? years have seen online conversations about feminism dominated by white people who seem hell-bent on making people of color outcasts/invisible, discounting their opinions, attempting to silence their concerns and generally make people of color "know their place", which is subservient to prominent white, oftentimes male feminists. There was an entire blowup around Hugo Schwyzer, for example, where he basically wormed his way into feminist circles in order to take advantage of women and, whenever called on it, would deflect criticism/focus to a person of color and attack them for not being good allies, and many white women ate it up until a pretty spectacular implosion where all of his awfulness and manipulations were laid bare, leaving the women who complicitly allowed or actively encouraged him in his behavior high and dry. There was also the situation with Tim Wise blowing up on Facebook about how sick he was of people of color not being more grateful to him for being a white man making a living off of championing their cause by taking up as many speaking engagements about the problems/issues facing people of color as he could.
Watching all of these situations, and watching people criticize Beyonce for singing about how much she enjoys her marriage, and having Beyonce come back fists swinging with that song is a gigantic, cathartic release; a massive "fuck you" by proxy to the machinery of this country which lynched my great-grandfather for the crime of not giving up his bus seat to a white man. That is why that song/line resonates with me.
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2014 02:03 (ten years ago) link
or to put it more simply, if you're rolling your eyes at that line or the statement Beyonce is making with her album, remember that slavery was not actually illegal until 1943 and then shut the fuck up
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link
i'm not rolling my eyes at that line.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 24 January 2014 02:14 (ten years ago) link
(or the statement beyonce is making with the album. i hadn't gotten that statement from the album, but that's not to say it isn't there).
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 24 January 2014 02:16 (ten years ago) link
that wasn't a "you" you (although I appreciate that it sounded that way)
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2014 02:17 (ten years ago) link
understood.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 24 January 2014 02:17 (ten years ago) link
holy fuck why wasn't I posting here instead. consider yourselves spared I guess but I p much agree with jjj on 100% of these songs
― pessimishaim (imago), Friday, 24 January 2014 04:04 (ten years ago) link
well, we're still waiting for him to get to hot fruit
― mookieproof, Friday, 24 January 2014 04:06 (ten years ago) link
I'd rather hear Hot Fruit than another dull UK diva
― Evil Juice Box Man (Moodles), Friday, 24 January 2014 04:07 (ten years ago) link
And yes, I agree that there was a distinct lack of decent rock tracks or anything with some kind of heaviness or edge to it. I don't think that's really ILMs fault because there simply wasn't a ton of stuff like that that I was drawn to this year.
― Evil Juice Box Man (Moodles), Friday, 24 January 2014 04:09 (ten years ago) link
The weird thing is that this was a really good year for me and music but now I'm feeling pretty blah
― Evil Juice Box Man (Moodles), Friday, 24 January 2014 04:10 (ten years ago) link
Betty who - somebody loves you - what the hell is wrong with you people
― Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ok I should expand. This is the sort of shit that made me pissed when it would stink up Americas top 40 when I was an early teen. Lifeless anthemic dumb shit about nothing backed with paid intern synth lines, "wacky" retro multi tap reverb vocals. Plenty of stuff that I haven't liked at all, but this is the first one to make me actively mad at you guys.
― Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fwiw jjj this was imo the worst thing out of many very bad things on the entire list & completely just completely unbelievably boggle-eyedly terrible in every conceivable way
― pessimishaim (imago), Friday, 24 January 2014 04:11 (ten years ago) link
love betty who, but mostly for 'you're in love' (which only received the one vote from me.) 'somebody loves you' isn't as good but it had that viral video so there it was.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 24 January 2014 07:24 (ten years ago) link
Betty Who is supposed to be a joke or parody or something, non?
― he said, even sexilyer, (dog latin), Friday, 24 January 2014 08:54 (ten years ago) link
I do like that Bunji Garlin thing although its catchiness is starting to do me 'ead in.
― he said, even sexilyer, (dog latin), Friday, 24 January 2014 09:54 (ten years ago) link
I was thrilled Garlin made the top 10.
Also really pleased that, despite submitting a fairly wide-ranging international ballot (the only British or American performer in my top 20 was Britney) that most of the songs i voted for had other voters. It's great to see multiple votes for Temi Dollface (8), Stromae (5), Nyusha (3), Ivan Dorn, Lady Saw, etc, etc.
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 24 January 2014 10:53 (ten years ago) link
ShariVari, some of your picks and recommendations were excellent. I also really liked Bachanal.
― he said, even sexilyer, (dog latin), Friday, 24 January 2014 11:12 (ten years ago) link
Yay!
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 24 January 2014 11:14 (ten years ago) link
That Lady Saw track, 'Bun Fi Bun' is one of the most fiercest things I've ever heard in dancehall.
― he said, even sexilyer, (dog latin), Friday, 24 January 2014 11:26 (ten years ago) link
The best part of the whole tracks poll was lex praising a Paramore song's "chunky riff."
― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link
rad djp posts
― mustread guy (schlump), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, January 24, 2014 12:46 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this slayed me
― call all destroyer, Friday, 24 January 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
lol
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
I'm still back on j0rd humblebragging about not being able to get offended by swastikas tbh
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
yeah. hoping that "swastikas don't bother me" doesn't become the hip-trend of 2014.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 24 January 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
http://www.united-academics.org/journal/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/siouxie-swastica.jpg
― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link
yeah yeah.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 24 January 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
i'm aware of it. still hope it isn't a hip new trend.
fwiw that pic kept me from actually exploring Siouxsie and the Banshees back catalog until around 2003 and I still kind of hate her for it
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link
totally.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 24 January 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
xp - pretty sure she apologized for it at one point
― ^ enlightening post (sarahell), Friday, 24 January 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link
I've been looking for the post-2000 interview I read where basically called every black person in LA a thugged-out ape but I can't find it; I may be misremembering the strength of the statement but there were definitely bad vibes
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2014 22:14 (ten years ago) link
siouxsie in 2005:
Siouxsie is surprisingly frank, if unrepentant.
"The culture around then," she explains, "it was Monty Python, Basil Fawlty, Freddie Starr, The Producers- 'Springtime For Hitler'." She kicks out her leg in a mock goosestep. "It was very much Salon Kitty. It was used as a glamour thing. And you know what?" she sighs." I have to be honest but I do like the Nazi uniform. I shouldn't say it but I think it's a very good-looking uniform."
You shouldn't say it for fear of upsetting the PC mob?
"Yeah. It's almost like you feel like saying,'Aw, come on. Nazis - they're brilliant.' Political correctness becomes imprisoning. It's very - what's the word? It's being very Nazi! It's ironic but this PC-ness is so fucking fascist. In America they're especially touchy about Nazis and it's so Nazi! You go to LA and it's so segregated. It's very Nazi and the irony is they don't get it. They don't realise how Nazi they are about taking offence to mentioning the word Nazi."
― chekhprivan (wins), Friday, 24 January 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
I feel like there was a specific story she was telling about an unpleasant interaction with someone but I could very well be conflating some things.
At any rate, I tend to be very wary of white people who say things like that 2005 quote because they almost invariably think that someday, when they get to know me well enough, I'll be okay with them calling me a nigger.
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link
It's the whole conflation of PC with actual oppression. "You're oppressing me by frowning on my racism!"
― Spaghetti Sauce Shampoo (Moodles), Saturday, 25 January 2014 01:52 (ten years ago) link
I'm mad I didn't know about this thread. Much more my thing than the actual rollout.
Thanks for the heads-up last night, john.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 27 January 2014 01:03 (ten years ago) link
so... Melt-Banana is kind of awesome, huh
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link
yup!
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 27 January 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link
they are! I'm a big fan of cell-scape
― original bgm, Monday, 27 January 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
DJP - you just warmed my heart with your mention of "hocket"
― ^ enlightening post (sarahell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 22:11 (ten years ago) link
oh yeah I meant to look that up
― more r&b, vicar? (wins), Thursday, 30 January 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
haha thanks!
― SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 30 January 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
HOCKETY POCKETY WOCKETY WACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bd5YUEOwlE
― more r&b, vicar? (wins), Thursday, 30 January 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
for those wondering, here is an example of hocket:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enbHYaF8Vas
There's also a terrible video of Dirty Projectors doing something similar only much worse
― SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 30 January 2014 22:25 (ten years ago) link
hocketing and Meredith Monk = back to my comfort zone
― ^ enlightening post (sarahell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 22:27 (ten years ago) link