I HATE NIGGERS IN MAINSTREAM MUSIC EXCEPT WHEN THEY ARE OLD SOUL OR FUNK OR CRAZY LIKE OUTKAST, THE WORST IS WHEEN WHITE PEOPLE TRY TO BE LIKE NIGGERS, HOW REDICU,LOUS, I SAW MY LITTLE BROTHER SAYING "BLING BLING;"' WHATEVER THE FUCK THAT MEASNS, DOES HE THINK HES BLACK, I SHOULD TEACH HIM HOW TO BE A WHITE PERSON,
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE INDUSTRY IS RACIST AND DOESNT LET SMART NIGGERS LIEK MARVIN GAYE OR CANNIBEL OX GET THROUGH WITH THEIR SMART BLACKNESS IT REWARDS DUMB NIGGERS LIKE LUDACRIS AND JAY Z AND THEN EVERYONE EATS IT UP BECAUSE THE IDIOTS PUBLIC ARE DUMB NIGGERS OR WANT TO BE DUMB NIGGERS THATS ALL THEY ARE, RAP MUSIC IS VVIOLENT AND BORING MUSICALY AND NO ONE CAN REALLY LIEK IT AS MUSIC THEY JUST LIKE IT BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM FEEL "DANGEROUS" AND "BLACK" BUT REALLY THEIR JUST DUMB
― Anonymous, Thursday, 6 September 2007 09:30 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0148/couch.php
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 15 November 2002 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Friday, 15 November 2002 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)
Touche!
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 15 November 2002 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)
Is there a website that converts your speech into Troll?
― Aaron A., Friday, 15 November 2002 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 15 November 2002 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Friday, 15 November 2002 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― a passing moderator (mark s), Friday, 15 November 2002 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 15 November 2002 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)
I thought it was him posting being all sarcastic and shit. I mean look at the e-mail! And look at the subtle politics at work (white folx who like Marvin Gaye and Cannibal Ox and other acts for their intelligence are racists who hate dumb n-word music)!
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 15 November 2002 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 15 November 2002 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)
Hot triple negative action!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 November 2002 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 15 November 2002 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 November 2002 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.misfits.com/MSF-DL1-X.jpg http://www.misfits.com/MSF-DL2-X.jpg
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 15 November 2002 23:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 15 November 2002 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)
[begin article]
'8 Mile' reaches all demographics
By Lynn Smith, Geoff Boucher and Lorenza Munoz
AFTER lunch at Neiman-Marcus, Jane Ann Kuster, 73, moved into the dark confines of the Edwards Big Newport theater, accompanied by her friend and neighbor Armida Persello, 72.
Kuster wanted to introduce her friend to Eminem, starring in his first movie, "8 Mile," and to witness his attempt to travel the distance from much-denounced rapper to mainstream movie star. Evidently, the journey was a success -- and financed not just by the fans you might expect.
Powered by strong reviews in major newspapers, a hit song on the radio and a relentless ad campaign, the movie grossed a far-higher-than-expected $54 million-plus in its opening last weekend. Universal Pictures reported that most of the "8 Mile" weekend moviegoers were younger than 25 and white -- and, intriguingly for a rap movie, female -- but almost one-third were older than 25, like Kuster and Persello, who caught the film Saturday in the Los Angeles coast suburb of Newport Beach.
Until Sunday, filmmakers had been unsure whether mainstream Americans would be willing to spend two hours in the dark with Eminem, whose stated goal has been to "(expletive) the world off." But as the septuagenarians demonstrated, many welcomed him with open arms, some applauding perceived messages of authenticity, hard work and personal responsibility in the film.
"He's a doll," Kuster said. "What you see is what you get. I don't think he puts on any pretense."
It made for some interesting weekend movie lines, and nowhere was the people-watching more fascinating than in the children and parents at theaters together. Many baby-boomer parents were already fans themselves. Deedee Williams, 50, founder of a Beverly Hills global consulting biotech company, said she had to talk her 14-year-old son, Matt, into coming along.
Despite its rating, bestowed for "strong language, sexuality, some violence and drug use," others found positive messages for kids in the movie. "From the ghetto, he ended up making something of himself. I think that's a positive thing in our society today," said Santa Ana psychologist Robin Carr, who brought two children and a friend, ages 12 to 15. Although he cussed too much, he was also trying to make ends meet, she said.
Although some champion him as a relevant and clever cultural provocateur, Eminem has been assailed as a loutish, foulmouthed rapper. For much of America until now, Eminem is best known for the protests against him before the Grammys in 2001, or perhaps the courtroom photos from his brushes with the law. His demeaning lyrics about women and gays have drawn protests and his albums are brimming with graphic language and violent imagery. Unlike Eminem's CDs, there is no "clean" version of "8 Mile" available for the younger teens who follow his music.
The film, directed by critically respected Curtis Hanson at a cost of $50 million, tells a classic Hollywood tale of "underdog makes good" by describing the struggle of a white boy trying to make it in the black, urban rap scene of impoverished Detroit. Unlike his mother's boyfriend, he has a job -- making steel bumpers at a stamping plant. Another message in the film is that connection in art and class can overcome race differences. The theme has characterized Eminem's music career as well.
The R rating didn't hinder the movie's popularity, said its producer, Brian Grazer, and nationwide, theaters were packed. The movie averaged an unusually high $22,400 per screen; $10,000 is considered good by industry standards.
"The message of the movie is so positive that I think parents are just looking the other way," Grazer said. "Parents felt they could kind of get away from those (other hip-hop films). But with Eminem, it's in their face and it forces them to understand the language."
"I'm not a fan at all," Barry, a retired communication engineer, said he was curious to see how the rapper did.
In an e-mail interview with the Los Angeles Times last month, Eminem said he had set out to make a serious movie, not a comic or hit-driven goof.
"The movie marked the direction I wanted to go in, which allowed me to see if I can really act and to document the scene in Detroit that I came from," said the rapper, whose real name is Marshall Mathers III. As for a possible second act as an actor, he said: "I'm going to take it one step at a time. I'm not interested in becoming a full-time actor any time soon."
[end article]
gygax review:rising up from his bright purple mustang and flourescent visors, and by stepping down into a role of ghetto factory worker for cred, eminem proves that art does imitate life, and that 10 million white girls under 25+ really think he's hot (not to mention a few leisure villagers). The message: good looking white people CAN overcome challenges in race struggles in modern america. YaY!
― gygax!, Friday, 15 November 2002 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax!, Friday, 15 November 2002 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax!, Friday, 15 November 2002 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax!, Friday, 15 November 2002 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)
if not, i highly recommend it.
― gygax!, Friday, 15 November 2002 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)
This may be the worst, ugliest example of it, but it's not nearly the only one. In the end, it's just elitist attitudes shrouded in populist clothing to make it seem less repellent.
― lke, Saturday, 16 November 2002 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― ray romano of tee-vee fame, Saturday, 16 November 2002 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)
anyway the best thing about the 8 mile soundtrack is that i bought it and it came with a free bonus cd with preview stuff from shady records.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 16 November 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 16 November 2002 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― artiste, Saturday, 16 November 2002 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― ep, Saturday, 16 November 2002 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 16 November 2002 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― ep, Saturday, 16 November 2002 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― artiste, Saturday, 16 November 2002 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Saturday, 16 November 2002 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― ep, Saturday, 16 November 2002 07:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 16 November 2002 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 16 November 2002 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 16 November 2002 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0274518
― Tom Millar (Millar), Saturday, 16 November 2002 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― the guy, Saturday, 16 November 2002 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 16 November 2002 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 16 November 2002 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 16 November 2002 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 16 November 2002 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 16 November 2002 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 16 November 2002 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, 17 November 2002 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)
Unfortunately, the Misfit dolls would be grossly outnumbered, as Kiss have unleashed an....er....army of action figures via Tod "Spawn" McFarlane toys.
I'm waiting for the much-talked-about-but-never-materialized Devo action figures.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 17 November 2002 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)
Devo action figures would RULE ALL.
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 17 November 2002 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 17 November 2002 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 17 November 2002 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 17 November 2002 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Graham (graham), Sunday, 17 November 2002 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 17 November 2002 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 18 November 2002 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 18 November 2002 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 18 November 2002 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 18 November 2002 05:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 18 November 2002 05:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 18 November 2002 05:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― bob marley, Friday, 3 March 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)
seconded
― Heave Ho, Thursday, 6 September 2007 08:50 (seventeen years ago)
Why wasn't this thread removed in the first place?
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 September 2007 08:50 (seventeen years ago)
LIEK MARVIN GAYE OR CANNIBEL OX
― marmotwolof, Thursday, 6 September 2007 08:51 (seventeen years ago)
Well, I guess the main reason why the record industry doesn't let Marvin Gaye record anymore is that he died in 1984. Figures, kind of....
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 September 2007 08:56 (seventeen years ago)
$gnac is on point!!!
― luriqua, Thursday, 6 September 2007 09:07 (seventeen years ago)
that's why i shoot all races!! i don't discriminate-- if you act dumb or black or whatever i will yawn and open fire.
― luriqua, Thursday, 6 September 2007 09:09 (seventeen years ago)
It's not easy being 14, I sympathise
― Tom D., Thursday, 6 September 2007 09:10 (seventeen years ago)
For fuck's sake.
― Pashmina, Thursday, 6 September 2007 09:30 (seventeen years ago)
huh
― ghost rider, Thursday, 6 September 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago)