Aeon Flux not screened for critics?!

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I guess I'll know for certain in a few hours, but that doesn't bode well in my mind.

http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/articles/2005/11/30/will_aeon_flux_be_any_good_dont_ask_the_film_critics/

There are a couple of very negative preliminary reviews, as well.

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/entertainment/13310730.htm

Ouch.

skye, Friday, 2 December 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

rotten tomatoes ratings are harsh. one critic gave it .5/4 stars.


you can hear the voices from five years previous echoing through the empty halls and heads at paramount... "it should be made as an animated film..."

Chia-Chi Li, Friday, 2 December 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

I think i shall be judge on my own personal expierence. I never listen to what critics say anyways heh. If i did, i would have missed out on a lot of good movies heh.

Lady Morgan (Lady Morgan), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

It was better than it could have been, I'll say that.

The ending, however, is anathema to everything Flux stands for. Or at least, everything Flux has come to stand for in my mind.

Syra (Syra), Saturday, 3 December 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)

SPOILER ALERT

...Okay, so we have Aeon saying (in effect) "take a leap of faith" and "the old ways are best"? The real Aeon didn't have faith in anything but herself. And her goals were murkily defined, but I don't think her opposition to the established order had to do with a return to the old ways. It was just who she was; a violent, subversive force of nature. Aeon Flux means change, revolution, not comforting homilies.

Because we have to have a Big Bad Guy, Trevor's brother with a quasi-incestuous attachment to him (which turns into murder when the object of love doesn't reciprocate, natch) hatches this preposterous scheme to keep people from reproducing, and Aeon and Trevor team up to take him down. That's it. You don't need to see the film now, although it's less painful if you know the story's going to hurt bad.

It ends with a meet cute. Let me repeat that. It ends with a meet cute. I'm sorry, Aeon and Trevor do not 'meet cute'. Meet sinister, perhaps. Meet perverse. But not cute.

Bregna uses thousands of soldiers (and killer plants), yet leaves their skylights conveniently open.

The writing violates 'show, don't tell' in one key aspect, and that's a shame, because it really is the lynchpin of the plot. Don't just have Aeon SAY "our minds are unravelling"! FFS, show it, man! Two main characters acting vaguely uneasy fails to convince.

A lot was made of the drug-induced virtual meeting space where Monicans receive their orders. Alright, fair enough. It was slickly surreal, and one of the better points of the film. So were the, erm, tentacular vibrasuits (I'm just going to call them that :). But nothing is made of them in this weak retread of Parts: The Clonus Horror and every other clone movie ever made.

As a final comment, I'm sick of dystopian films where the 'outside of the city' is better than everyone says it is. Just once, I'd like it to be WORSE... :-P

Syra (Syra), Saturday, 3 December 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

I'd edit the "in effect" part out, actually; I'm just not sure whether I quoted verbatim. It wasn't a movie I care to remember too well.

Syra (Syra), Saturday, 3 December 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

To clarify again, they "meet cute" in the distant past, as their genetic ancestors; Aeon and Trevor do have some sexual tension in the film, although it's very tame.

Another thing that bothered me, I just realized, was the emphasis on "strong genes". Putting aside how bad that sounds in itself, Aeon's strength shouldn't come from her DNA; it should come from her character, her unique (and somewhat warped) psychology. Explaining away Aeon Flux as a genetic anomaly is like SW1's mitochondria, or Riddick's Furians. It adds nothing while detracting from the heft of the story.

And genetic memory is a /very/ interesting topic, that deserves better treatment than this ham-handed approach.

To put it in PG-13 terms, Flux this movie.

Syra (Syra), Saturday, 3 December 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

What 'arty' bits there were, were not in service to the story; they served the purpose of looking cool for that one scene. It felt like the writers were patting themselves on the back for incorporating elements of the show, without really thinking about how those elements would fit together; each one of the props could have come from a different movie, for all the sense of world they evoked.

Okay, I'm done ranting.

Syra (Syra), Saturday, 3 December 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

Going to see the movie at 5. This is one time skipping the spoiler is a good idea. I'm glad there are no critics honing in on this one yet.

Prob not too important to most of you, but what is everyone wearing to this movie? Honestly I see leather and blondes all over the place in my mind, and that's just the guys.

Barb e (Barb e), Saturday, 3 December 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Lmao Barb. The thought had crossed my mind lol. I wore some blue jeans and a dark green sweater, nothing special :O). Well I must say I was rather disappointed. The neat thing about the movie was how they took bits and pieces from the series and incorporated them into a single story in the movie. Although, I think the story lacked a considerable amount of the chungian storyline that we have all come to know and love and really we just expect it! I thought it was a cheap rip off of the entire series. There weren’t plots within plots, no underlying meanings under more meanings. I must say I didn’t like the whole surreal medicated world that they frequented. I was however satisfied with Theron’s performance as Aeon. I though her voice, look and movements fit well enough. The thing I hated most? Trevor! Not only did he not resemble Trevor in appearance but also in mind. I see Trevor is this super psychotic genius. Well among other things :O). The Trevor in this movie lacked substance. I was expecting a character that was unique, confusing, intelligent ect. Everything that Trevor was in the series instead I was sadly given a mushy, wimpy Trevor. I wanted him to be kicking butt with Aeon. Then Aeon chokes the life out of him, where the heck was Trevor’s gadgets? I was expecting him to pull out some device to overthrow her. What the heck was that? Trevor is Aeon’s match, alike, but yet different in everyway. What the hell? Oh and the end ugh. That’s all I have to say. It was all happy and sweet. Where the heck is the shock? Where is the confusing sense of what lies ahead? I wanted to be mesmerized, and in constant guess. NO, NO, when you can guess what’s going to happen, eh well it’s just not original. Eh I dunno, perhaps I put a little too much hope into the movie. Well that’s all I can think of at the moment.

Lady Morgan (Lady Morgan), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I got into it a little and wore jeans and a long black sweater. I would've done my hair with the side pieces but I've recently trimmed it. Bad move, Barb. Bad move.

Actually I loved the movie. Just seeing Aeon Flux, the character, in any form seemed great. It was fun to go see her 'new' again. The whole Monica/Bregna thing resurrected.

I always thought Bregna was pronounced "Brenya" though. I'm surprised I screwed that up the way I did Herodotus, the first 'o' being 'ah'. I can only hope someone comes on here and tells me they got the pronunciation wrong.

I didn't go with the expectation of seeing more Chungian mindboggling enigmatic edgyness. I knew they couldn't get that, after all, they're Hollywood. But I didn't expect them to be so respectful of the original series. There were lots of little pieces lifted from it. The first scene of the city there was a man looking directly at the camera whose total look was like the series art. How did they find such a guy? I can't describe that face, except to say he looked like one of Peter's characters come to life.

The fact that they met at the 'forum' I got a kick out of. The fact that the forum looked like Trevor's home in Last Time. In fact the whole part with Aeon racing across the knife bladed grass and flipping about seemed to be designed from the scenes in Last Time. Even with the wall they entered over. The 'Relical' is right out of the Herodotus file. Take a look at the Herodotus file on page 13, (if you count, there are no numbers on the pages). The page with "Priority High 7" in the right corner. I think they more or less did a tribute to the series in doing these things. It was fun to see.

Scaphandra was played well, but had an inexplicable name change. The biggest mystery of the movie for me.

Trevor well, not sure why he was a handsome and bondlike brunette instead of a cold Hitchcock blonde. He needed more 'dangerboy' in him. Theron did a great job playing Aeon. She had the voice style down really well.

I liked a lot of aspects of the movie. They did a better job than I expected. To do better than that they needed Peter. Should've asked him in.

I hope the movie is wildly successful and creates a hunger for more, for the series to get the okay from MTV to be renewed. Then we can all be really satiated.

I'm buying a copy of the movie as soon as it becomes available.

Barb e (Barb e), Sunday, 4 December 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

The reviewer in the link above said, "In fact there's little in this movie that makes sense. For example: it's set 400 years in the future, yet Goodchild's armed forces are still using bullets? C'mon." What a worthless quip... surely there are better things to attack? What should they be using, laser beams?


Hey Barb, how did they pronounce Bregna? It's already got a precedent in the TV show, did they actually change it?

Matt Rebholz (Matt Rebholz), Sunday, 4 December 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

Breg-na.

The movie really wasn't bad, it just wasn't especially good. Though I HATE that effect they did with the little balls. Why didn't they explode?

... Anyways, I really wish they'd followed the themes of the show a little more strongly, but I can't really complain too much. It's the PG-13 adaptation Aeon Flux, without any of the original writers, directors, or artists. I'm amazed it came through at all!

What I do wonder is: why the heck WASN'T it screened for critics? What the hell was Paramount thinking?

skye, Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/movies/250650_aeon03q.html

I think this review captures my sentiments pretty well.

skye, Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)

I liked the movie, though it had some glaring flaws and plot-holes, (I'd give it around 7/10) but I think they could have made it closer to the original series by making Oren and Trevor one person and so having Trevor innerly-conflicted over what to do with the cloning (live forever or restore a natural balance) instead of conflicted with Oren. This could also allow more tension between Aeon and Trevor even when they were working together. They could replace Oren's betrayal by a simple betrayal by the council after learning that Trevor was in love with Aeon.

Natham, Sunday, 4 December 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Similar interview to the one on scifi.com (I did it the same morning), but with more accurate reporting:


http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/default.htm?cmsGuid={BE71BA24-48E4-46C0-A529-D58A317F23E2}

Peter Chung, Sunday, 4 December 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

That's exactly what my brother and I were talking about! We both went separately with a group of friends; those who were not familiar with the series or shorts loved the movie. Although those who had a preconception of how the movie should be because of their familiarity with the show were disappointed. We talked how they couldn't make the movie how we wanted it to be, because of the wide audience that it was set on. They have to make what sells and still try and keep the essence of the show intact. I'm just happy that more people now know of Aeon, perhaps that will encourage them to investigate the series. I guess it was not a horrible movie, it was decent enough, but it did not live up to what I would expect an Aeon Flux movie should be, that’s really why I was so upset heh, but I’m still buying the movie lol.

Lady Morgan (Lady Morgan), Monday, 5 December 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

I just heard Matt Drudge say tonight Aeon Flux was no. 2 at the box office, next to Harry Potter. Is that true?

Barb e (Barb e), Monday, 5 December 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/

Namenlos, Monday, 5 December 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

No hard feelings, I suppose. Waiting years for a movie does tend to make one a little frothing-at-the-mouth.

I'll rent the film and watch with the sound turned off. It'll probably have reams of deleted scenes.

Slant Review

"That hope is derived from belief rather than knowledge is part and parcel of (the Aeon Flux film's) conservative outlook".

Syra (Syra), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how mad a critic gets when he isn't asked to screen the movie? Heheh. I guess pretty mad.

There is an old movie by the name of Laura, (1944) that revolves around a critic, Waldo Lyedecker. He is played brilliantly by Clifton Webb, for which he won the Oscar. He is the quintessential critic personality, a 'poison pen'. A man who was not the best specimen of the beautiful male, and so didn't get the girl. He unleashed his anger on the public through sarcastic and snearing columns. Made him feel better. The race of critics has not evolved since this 1940's movie was made. Some things will never change.

Had they done a just little homework they would know Scaphandra was a white girl in the anime, and their comments are misplaced since the characters came from the series. Also, the Matrix was inspired by Aeon Flux. I actually feel a little admiration for whoever at MTV decided not to screen for critics. They decided to leave it up to the audience to use their own minds.

I got a laugh out of one review in which the critic says, 'why didn't they push the nudity limits of pg13'. Gee, is that the way we evaluate a films worth?

Still can't get the girl.

Barb e (Barb e), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

Man, that review sucks. But nothing bothers me in it as much as this - "That honor goes to the sight of an African-American warrior (Sophie Okonedo) with hands for feet, a distasteful vision of the archaic blacks-as-monkeys stereotype that truly takes the repugnant cake."
It amazes me how people like this don't realize that if your one of the few people who this occurs to, then you might want to stop looking outwardly for prejudices.

Regardless, I thought the movie was good. I thought it sucked compared to the show, but if I saw it and it was called "metropadeutropolis," I probably would have gotten a kick out of it, so I treated it the same. (Although I agree, Trevor was weak.)

Not to mention the world of Aeon has gotten dry in the past few years, so who am I to bitch about any sort of revival.

Plus the boxset kicks anus. Had to wait a few days and visit coinstar but it's Mine. ALL MINE.

Oh, and I saw that Mr. Chung made suggestions towards the movie, which were mostly dismissed. Is anyone else curious as hell to what those comments were? You think we could squeeze that out of him?

Joshua Aldridge, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

I see the whole Show vs. Movie thing sorta like it was with Minority Report.

Minority Report was supposed to be an interesting look into "Free Will." What does it mean to have free will if people can see the future? Instead the movie was about "OMG EXPLOITING THE POOR PSYCHICS!" That's fucking boring, no one gives a shit about the psychics. They are a plot device.

Aeon Flux is supposed to be about freedom versus control, or social good. Anarchism versus tyranny. Instead it veered off into "OMG CLONING IS BAD!"

Blade Runner didn't have this problem, since it stayed close to the theme of the book, "What makes something human?" Even Total Recall captured its theme fairly well. C'est la movie process.

skye, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)

But human cloning in the movie is not an absolute evil. It actually saved mankind from extinction. It becomes a mean for a repressive and controlling regime, only later on. You can say that Bregna governement's purpose in the movie is "social good", and of course the pursuing of that "social good" becomes a way of preserving the status quo.
I thought the movie was pretty interesting, and more layered that some people give it credit for.

The Dickian, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
I liked the movie, even though I'm a die hard fan of the animated series (although I haven't reached the level of Barb e-dom just yet). The thing is you can't expect the TV show in the movie. The whole creative process for the two was completely different; hell, the staff was completely different. That being said, there were still some nice wtf moments that I enjoyed, since they were such a big part of the series. Moments like the pool of water that was a storage space for all the surveillance info. I like the metaphor that each individual's life is, literally, a drop in the bucket. Then there was the map in her skin, her replaceable eyeball, the explodable ball bearings. I think what they succeeded in pulling from the series was the visual weirdness, which is really the most I could hope for. I would never in a million years have expected the plot and dialogue to resemble the show. That would be financial suicide on the part of the movie studio.

Logo, Saturday, 21 January 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)


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