“Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Five years later? Six? It seems like a lifetime, or at least a Main Era— the kind of peak that never comes again. San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. Maybe it meant something. Maybe not, in the long run… but no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time and the world. What-ever it meant…------…but being absolutely certain that which way I went I would come to a place where people were just as high and wild as I was: no doubt about that at all…There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda… You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning…And that, I think, was the handle— that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of old and evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting- on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave…So now, less then five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark— the place where that wave finally broke and rolled back. “ -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Hunter S. Thompson.
Can conformity exist within deviation?Hippies.
During my high school years I had gotten into the “hippy” era by the means of a famous journalist named Hunter S. Thompson. It was the one quote above that catalyzed a whole spectrum of counterculture fantasies where the weird were cherished and the wise were heard. I had the popular images of flower people in peculiar clothing relishing the sanctity of life stamped across a time, and across an entire generation. Then I actually started reading about hippies.I first read The Darma Bums, by Jack Kerouac, and got a look at the “spirituality” that had surrounded the 60’s. They swallowed up the legends of foreign cultures, of Tibetan monks and long dead languages, without actually trying to learn about the people themselves. They used worldly religions as a figurehead for their alternative way of life, but failed to adhere to some of the simplest principles of those religions. Even with my limited knowledge of the philosophies that hippies tried to perpetuate, I could tell that they used their fascination for the unknown as a disguise and a justification for being reckless and disassociated from the world. They were a perversion of the beatnik generation who might have actually of tried to accomplish something. They were clowns for the sake of some great unnamed cause. They were religious fanatics without a religion to bind them, only an opposition, a distain for someone else, and then, of course, they had the war.After The Dharma Bums I read The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Tests, by Tom Wolfe, off of a recommendation. The Dharma Bums had been popular among the hippies, but it wasn’t about hippies. It wasn’t about their culture. The Electric Kool-Aid acid Tests is about Kesey, an author and one of the leaders in the 60’s movement. Kesey’s bus trip around America is part of the hippie legend, and one that excites a roar of images describing a journey into the deeper levels of the mind, and the higher planes of existence. After reading it though, the trip becomes much simpler. What was a group of open-minded kids journeying across America to discover the boundless world beyond the choking grasp that conservatives had on the youth of America, soon became a tightly knit group of highly intolerant drug users, perpetually insistent on conformity towards their unrealistically idolized leader’s whims, all gathered together to aimlessly drive anywhere the front of their bus ended up pointing. I was crushed. A year after I gave up on The Electric Cool-Aid Acid Tests I tried to read Jack Kerouac’s On the Road, deemed an American classic, and it officially extinguished the final flame of admiration I possessed for the 1960’s counterculture. Not only that, but like most who have their iconic visions shattered by the actual inquiry of those beloved icons, I began to question the substance of long held ideals I’d never come face to face with. Somehow, I’d believed that those countercultures, who had broken the norms of which I’ve felt so strongly all of my life, had become free from the constriction of social expectations and had burst into a realm where a persons identity could be realized without the reproval of ones own culture. Instead, they merely created a different and often times more strictly repressive set of rules to substitute for the old ones. It then hit me like a light. I knew why they called it “counterculture.” It’s a large group of people who are dissatisfied with the boundaries one culture puts on them, so they create a new culture, with boundaries of their own image, and represent their new culture as the antithesis of the original. The mentality, social structure, and basic rule system remain the same between the cultures, they merely decide to envelop themselves in a different environment and decorate themselves with a different face. The question then went from whether a deviant could also be a conformist, to whether deviation could exist without conformity. Is there really any such thing as freedom? Can someone distinguish a genuine identity separate from the construct created by their culture? Is there a pure self? As each pillar of thought and system of belief crumbled, they were replaced by a new question, as well as an expanding uncertainty that gave the world a grey tint and a repetitive simplicity which developed in me a genuine distaste for the world. Anomie, accompanied by a general anxiety, soon set in and cost me the worst trip to hell I’ve yet experienced.After a long while I was able to partially reconcile myself with the 1960’s counterculture, and the rest of the cultures it had become a figurehead for as well. I realized it was unfair for me to supersede the individual and judge that person for the social structure they found themselves stuck in. I also realized that each group usually has a large variety of people regardless of the social norms involved. But even in recognizing these facts I cannot maintain the visions of distant cultures on top of the same pedestal I’d once kept them on. Instead I’ve had to utilize curiosity to reintegrate myself into the world. I’ve developed the initiative to pursue interests involving my school studies, as well as music and art, and although through the knowing filter of skepticism, I’ve been able to retain glimmering ideals in the form of the intellectual heroes of mine that have withstood the test of time. As anomie ebbs to the side, society regains enough complexity to emanate once again a sense of mystery from its dark unexplored corners, but still, you cannot un-know what you have learned, and I don’t believe that the bitter resignment associated with a collapsing world ever quite goes away.
― Joshua Aldridge, Saturday, 4 March 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)
Even though this is an Aeon Flux message board, Joshua, it's perfectly OK to post topics for discussion without prefacing them with a rationale, especially when the post is as brimming with stimulating insights as this.
(Having said that, I will make the claim that Aeon is well aware of this inevitable tendency of revolutionaries to eventually become the new establishment once they win their struggles. That is why her goal is to never actually overthrow Trevor. Trevor, on the other hand, embodies the epitome of deviance. His position of supreme power is ideal for allowing him to demonstrate the relativity of the concept of "norm".)
I reached similar disenchantment in my own growth into adulthood, through a parallel course involving my immersion in the mythology of New Testament subversion. I think I was attracted to Christianity, in retrospect, partly in defense of my social awkwardness (hey, it's a great way to explain your lack of success with girls-- "I'm keeping myself pure"...), but mostly in identifying myself with the nonconformism and idealism of gospel accounts of the life of Christ and the apostles. Those texts have become so institutionalized, politicized, romanticized and mythologized that it is hard now to just read them without prejudice, but they are, in fact, full of some of the most revolutionary and subversive exhortations made against an entrenched status quo (Roman and Jewish) ever written. That they do so while appealing to the idea of universal access to spiritual transcendence is no doubt the source of their enduring power. Jesus WAS the original hippy. (That idea has been elaborated upon endlessly, I don't need to go on.)
I did realize soon that the institution of the modern church was wielding the authority to demand conformity to their once deviant precepts. The revolutionaries had won.
― Peter Chung, Sunday, 5 March 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)
― skye, Friday, 10 March 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Matt Rebholz (Matt Rebholz), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:53 (nineteen years ago)
She IS the revolution.
― skye, Friday, 10 March 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Matt Rebholz (Matt Rebholz), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/movies/2005/aeonflux2005.html
excerpts:
Flux is a good, fast-paced sci-fi adventure, but it’s important to remember that Paul tells us: Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord” (Romans 12:19 ESV). Vengeance is almost always the primary motivating factor in action movies. Even though Aeon prevails and eventually ushers her captive society into a new age, her primary motivation for doing so was vengeance for her sister’s death.
VIEWER COMMENTSNegative - The problem that I had with this film is it’s view of death. The main character makes many comments about the role of death in life. The movie takes the all to prevalent viewpoint that death is natural, and is okay when it comes at the end of a life. It falls far short of a biblical understanding that death comes from sin, was not part of his original creation, and God wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of truth. God wants us to have more than a long life and a peaceful death. He wants us to spend eternity with him in heaven.?My Ratings: Offensive / 3½?—David Endorf, age 28
― Peter Chung, Saturday, 11 March 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)
The viewer's problem with the movie was that it acknowledges that people DIE? I'm totally confused. Sure, it's wrong to depict people not coming into eternal life in Heaven, but it's just fine for that guy to sit and watch Aeon kill countless unsuspecting guards... not that I didn't enjoy that part.
― Anthony Hudson (fabhappyfruit), Saturday, 11 March 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)
I figured you went through a similar phase of disillusionment to be able to develop such removed philosophies on society and social construction, but Christianity? Shocker!!! Kind of makes me re-think The Demiurge though.
Haha, and I read some of those Christianity reviews. AN OFFENSIVE RATING, HAH, that's classy. I've never been offended by much, but it makes me wonder if they could appreciate something with a high offensive rating, or if that aspect would be such powerfully high on the hierarchy of thought that anything else would be dismissed on even a subconscious level.
HMMMMMMM, sounds dangerous.
Oh well, we should probably ignore it until it reaches a genocidal level. We always do.
It's strange. It feels like the pieced together image of human behavior is on the edge of my mind. Like I can only get so many parts in a cohesive ball before it falls apart again, but that it's all there.
Then again, it's pretty late.
― Joshua Aldridge, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 08:34 (nineteen years ago)
I'd be interested to hear more about these enduring intellectual heroes you reffered to...
― Sam Grayson, Monday, 27 March 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Mark Mars, Monday, 3 April 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)