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it's weird to hear ppl dissing sinatra repping for orbison, it's like if can fans were trashing miles davis or something

― balls, Monday, August 23, 2010 11:13 PM Bookmark

This analogy is so unbelievably RONG.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

orbison and sinatra are both a-ok by me

BIG HII'M aka the teendriver (crüt), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

jb's analogy sounds about right 2 me

BIG HII'M aka the teendriver (crüt), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Also Sinatra is pretty widely considered not to have a traditionally "great" singing voice, regardless of what one thinks of his stylings. Orbison otoh is considered one of the great pop voices.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link

the young sinatra's voice is so sweet, v different from the rat pack years (altho he could still be sensitive)
orbison was otherwordly and great, i'd still take sinatra but it wouldn't occur to me to compare

buzza, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Also Sinatra is pretty widely considered not to have a traditionally "great" singing voice, regardless of what one thinks of his stylings. Orbison otoh is considered one of the great pop voices.

loooooool "traditionally great singing voice" and "great pop voices" are totally different standards. sinatra is totally one of the great pop voices.

BIG HII'M aka the teendriver (crüt), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

take billie holliday, pussy, and jazz out of frank sinatra add mario lanza, country, and loserdom and you have roy orbison. orbison was nearly as much a geek for greaseball faux opera melodramatic pop as elvis and sinatra was king of that shit.

balls, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Well I worded it badly. Orbison is known for his voice in terms of more traditional measures of singing ability - range, clarity, pitch, etc. Sinatra was a much more limited vocalist with a lot of style. They're totally different kinds of singers and their music is totally different and I don't really find it weird that someone would like one and not the other.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:29 (thirteen years ago) link

how the fuck was orbison's range impressive????

balls, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link

lol you have obviously heard like two roy orbison songs in your life stfu

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i've heard more than you clearly

balls, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ok according to last.fm i've listented to roy orbison 55 times in the past three months (including 'shadaroba' 17 times which no idea what's happening there) so what orbison track am i missing where he's just putting ella fitzgerald to shame.

balls, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link

His range was like 3-4 octaves

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean in In Dreams alone he spans like 2.5 octaves and hits a high C - a slightly weird one, but he hits a pretty clear one in Only the Lonely.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

If forced to choose, I'd def pick Orbison.

this isn't STRAWBERRY 0_o it's RAWBERRY (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

here's the real question

joy orbison or jank sanatra

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:53 (thirteen years ago) link

rank sinatra, surely

governor-general allin (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link

orbison is great but dismissing frank as some kind of poser is dumb IMO

parasitic mistletoe (m coleman), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link

roy's range is breathtaking and capable of conveying tragic emotion but jesus x what sinatra did w/phrasing was revolutionary & influential (even though he loathed R&R).

parasitic mistletoe (m coleman), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link

sinatra was my gateway drug into pre-rock pop songs - along w/ring-a-ding shoob-be-doo novelties he recorded SO many songs and the arrangements on his 50s sides kill

parasitic mistletoe (m coleman), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno how heated a debate you can get into with someone nicknamed "balls"

the day the Marc Lois took over (San Te), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Orbison is known for his voice in terms of more traditional measures of singing ability - range, clarity, pitch, etc. Sinatra was a much more limited vocalist with a lot of style.

If you care anything at all about singing, then you would have noticed Sinatra's clarity and pitch. It might be apocryphal, but the story that Miles used to model the pitch of his trumpet playing on Sinatra's singing totally makes sense.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 12:27 (thirteen years ago) link

miles told the story in his autobio so not too apocryphal!

balls, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link

for hurting and san te: 'miles' refers to miles davis.

balls, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO MILES STANDISH

ý never promýsed you a Weingarten (San Te), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link

miles standish proud

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

^ lost pavement lyric

balls, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link

uh that's an actual REM lyric

sarahel, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link

tsk, kids

'ray Clamence (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i live 3 blocks from that dude. thx for the tip though!

balls, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

plz more nu-ilxors imitating hot topic cashiers on noise board thx.

balls, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

3 blocks from that dude who wrote the lost pavement lyric

Leu! (crüt), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Michael Stipe wrote lost pavement lyrics?

sarahel, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a Grady Ave now?

governor-general allin (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link

really sad that I can't find a pic of the bumper sticker I see around Atlanta that says "If I'm injured in a car crash, take me to Grady"

Leu! (crüt), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Is balls Roger?

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link

how the fuck was orbison's range impressive????

― balls, Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:36 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, wow. Wasn't range pretty much Roy's thing?

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

thats what the girls at hot topic tell me

bnw, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

the first season or two of the simpsons kinda sucked yall... wasn't it until like season 4 or whenever that it really got good?

― snrub-n-tug (s1ocki), Tuesday, September 7, 2010 9:38 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

office (max) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

WRONG THREAD

Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

right sentiment

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

whiney why didnt u argue that out with me on the thread LIKE A MAN

snrub-n-tug (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing 2 argue, u r just rong

Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

RONG 2

Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

everyone knows early homer voice is horrible. and all that bleeding gums murphy business.

snrub-n-tug (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

sl0ck, that shit was like nothing on television. Ask anyone who actually remembers watching that first season instead of just glimpsing at mangled syndication episodes between their freshman dorm wake-and-bake sesh and their daily hot pocket

office (max) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link


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