seriously ✄☟☞ cut it out

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it will if you know how to 'sell it', for sure
my advice: don't get caught up in working/jobs/other opportunities/people/etc and end up spending over three years on it. focus, do, complete, go!

$10/day for food seems like luxury livin to me - but i pretty much just buy groceries and never eat out :/

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i bought a pretty nice whole (uncooked) chicken today for like $3.50! b/c it has to be cooked today. which i will do.

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

what are you getting your master's in jessie? most likely it will...

i'm going to just end up eating lots of noodles, rice, beans, kale, sausage, stir-fries, curries. no more eating out. it can be done!

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link

the luxury of living alone is way more important than the luxury of spending $2.50 on a cinnamon bun

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

TRUTH
you will be healthier in all ways!

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

isn't it going to be funny when canada money is worth more than ours?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I just spent $15 on lunch

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

:(

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

My lunch limit is $5. It's pretty written in stone.

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

haha canada money!

one way to not eat out very often is to become gastro-sensitive to everything!
(though damn, cinnamon buns... i won't even tell you how i approximate a non-grain non-dairy non-sugar version.)
(i feel like 75% of my life is all abt guts lately. cio life being all abt guts.)

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

you guys make me want to never graduate college

max, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

gah, i really need to learn to stop eating out/drinking

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

My life has been all about guts since age 14.

I am going to Toronto this weekend! But poor exchange rates mean I will not be able to plunder CD stores freely:(

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

im going out to eat a lot and buying a ton of clothes this year before i have to start paying rent

max, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Do you write freelance, rrrobyn? Just the science? Is is this bad? http://www.rbcinvest.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/LAC/20070809/RUSSELL09/Columnists/columnists/columnistsThearts/1/1/1/

CIO: governments funding three times more PhDs in physics than there are jobs in physics.
CIO: baby boom academics living so long.
KIU: taking PhD and working in finance seeming not just tolerable but actually kinda fun.

caek, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

the exchange rate was almost 1:1 when i visited canada at some point over the last year!

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

haha finance is kinda fun at an academic level, anyways.

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

top 5 ways to save assloads of money IMO--

Drink at home/at friend's houses
Don't smoke cigarettes
Don't own car
Cook food at home
Use public library constantly

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

caek my friend just got his MS in physics, fully intending to go into finance because they like brainiacs.

cio me considering ditching the whole med school thing and trying to be a mountain guide/writer instead (it'll never work!)

WHAT IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MOUNTAIN GUIDE/ARTIST/MUSICICICIAN AND LARGE DOMINO'S PIZZA?

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah bars are out too.
i don't smoke but i need to cut out my iced coffee habit.
i'm going to see if i can get away with the car. i have it registered out of state so my insurance and stuff are really low.

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

i am seriously considering quitting drinking altogether in order to save some money.

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know RW, what is the difference between etc etc?

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

state of canadian magazine industry is and never has been all that great for making $$ that's for sure

b/c i'm still thesising, i don't consider myself full-on freelance b/c i'm other pretty busy and not devoting a lot of time to the hustle. i do know, however, that doing coms writing/editing/etc for businesses and schools and other institutions pays way better than mags (though is often more stab-self-in-eye-y). i into doing coms stuff for science & medicine, yeah, but i've written music, arts, culture stuff too. i am all renaissance like that haha.
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you could totally be a mountain guide, rw! depends on if you love medicine more though too y'know

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

pizza feeds a family of four

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

what are you getting your master's in jessie? most likely it will...

International Relations, which means I can actually work in IR (as opposed to HR/admin) but salaries, uh, vary. I'm thinking three more years of poverty + hilarious loan payments will make me the most frugal person alive.

jessie monster, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

CIO: baby boom academics living so long.
but yeah, THIS
not just academics

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

oh i don't have nearly the experience necessary for mountain guiding. ski guiding, sure, but i'd have to really get after it for the other disciplines. plus, it only really pays if you can figure out how to make money on the side as a writer/photog/"personality." (as my friend Freddy seems to be doing)

I really do love medicine and public health, but having a stretch of free-time in the mountains has made me realize that i really am happiest when i'm just sort of fucking around in the hills. not so much because of the LOL NATURE, but because it's one of the few times that it's pretty much OK to actively ignore every thing else in yr life. same goes for playing music shows or, like, making a painting. and doing medical work, really!

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

it's cliche, but being on lead sort of makes yr credit card bill seem stupid and irrelevant.

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

i wish i had the drive/desire to go to grad school. i don't mind the work i'm doing but i'm getting presure to get an MBA in order to advance (or go back to for-profit world) at all and that is just the last thing i would ever want to do.

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

just CIO anyone thinking that and MBA is somehow worthwhile

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i blame the baby boomers
please all retire and die

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

hey!

(late boomer here)

Dr Morbius, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

in 20 years we will all be required to get our PhDs to please our geriatric boomer overlords, many of whom do not have a college education.

I don't know anything about business school (ANYTHING) but I always thought of an MBA as kind of weird. I don't really get what people take from those programs that they can't learn with real-world experience.

jessie monster, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I always thought MBA was ostensibly what most frat/jock types were going to school for, ie the equivalent of "Industrial Arts" class is high school.

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I think you read a bunch of those Machiavelli vs. Sun Tzu BUSINESS IS LIKE WAR books.

I am confused by the concept of MLS or MLIS degrees. What do you learn about librarian-ing? Isn't the Dewey Decimal System pretty much set in stone?

milo z, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

world always needs librarians! nedraggett.jpg

jessie monster, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

a lot of mba programs then bring in a lot of those non-academic/phd early-retirement boomers to teach classes!
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rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

the world needs a fucking overhaul

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Library job market (for decent positions)is v competitive, right? Hence the pressure for higher degree plumage...

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

MLIS coursework is lots of programming/database stuff. it seems pretty light, like there is no reason it should be a two-year course and not one-year.

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

xxpost good thing the AGE OF AQUARIUS is upon--

oh... never mind...

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i am an aquarius :/

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I am confused by the concept of MLS or MLIS degrees. What do you learn about librarian-ing? Isn't the Dewey Decimal System pretty much set in stone?

You learn about different databases, how to solve various types of requests, how to help patrons, how to evaluate what books are going to be good for your library and what to pitch, cataloging, etc. the list goes on and on. And most academic libraries use Library of Congress, not Dewey Decimal.

Library job market is very very tight. The key is to specialize!

Mr. Que, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

almost did MLS years ago but i'm now pretty discouraged.

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks, Mr. Que, that makes the idea much more understandable.

milo z, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

though i agree that it should be a year degree, but maybe if it is two, you take the first year and learn general stuff, and then take second year for specialization (science, legal, academic, music) and apprentice somewhere.

Mr. Que, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Rrrobyn nothing personal, just lame boomer humor.

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Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

har i know - now is the REAL age of aquarius amirite
i am going to a) work hard and 'make a difference' and/or b) move to the north and live underground and make weird electronic coms shit

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

ok b) sounds really pretty good right now. i wld do an internet radio show.

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I am maybe doing MLS next year - both Chicago-area programs can be done in a year if you do them full-time.

n/a, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link


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