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caek my friend just got his MS in physics, fully intending to go into finance because they like brainiacs.

cio me considering ditching the whole med school thing and trying to be a mountain guide/writer instead (it'll never work!)

WHAT IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MOUNTAIN GUIDE/ARTIST/MUSICICICIAN AND LARGE DOMINO'S PIZZA?

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah bars are out too.
i don't smoke but i need to cut out my iced coffee habit.
i'm going to see if i can get away with the car. i have it registered out of state so my insurance and stuff are really low.

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i am seriously considering quitting drinking altogether in order to save some money.

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know RW, what is the difference between etc etc?

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

state of canadian magazine industry is and never has been all that great for making $$ that's for sure

b/c i'm still thesising, i don't consider myself full-on freelance b/c i'm other pretty busy and not devoting a lot of time to the hustle. i do know, however, that doing coms writing/editing/etc for businesses and schools and other institutions pays way better than mags (though is often more stab-self-in-eye-y). i into doing coms stuff for science & medicine, yeah, but i've written music, arts, culture stuff too. i am all renaissance like that haha.
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you could totally be a mountain guide, rw! depends on if you love medicine more though too y'know

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

pizza feeds a family of four

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

what are you getting your master's in jessie? most likely it will...

International Relations, which means I can actually work in IR (as opposed to HR/admin) but salaries, uh, vary. I'm thinking three more years of poverty + hilarious loan payments will make me the most frugal person alive.

jessie monster, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

CIO: baby boom academics living so long.
but yeah, THIS
not just academics

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

oh i don't have nearly the experience necessary for mountain guiding. ski guiding, sure, but i'd have to really get after it for the other disciplines. plus, it only really pays if you can figure out how to make money on the side as a writer/photog/"personality." (as my friend Freddy seems to be doing)

I really do love medicine and public health, but having a stretch of free-time in the mountains has made me realize that i really am happiest when i'm just sort of fucking around in the hills. not so much because of the LOL NATURE, but because it's one of the few times that it's pretty much OK to actively ignore every thing else in yr life. same goes for playing music shows or, like, making a painting. and doing medical work, really!

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

it's cliche, but being on lead sort of makes yr credit card bill seem stupid and irrelevant.

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i wish i had the drive/desire to go to grad school. i don't mind the work i'm doing but i'm getting presure to get an MBA in order to advance (or go back to for-profit world) at all and that is just the last thing i would ever want to do.

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

just CIO anyone thinking that and MBA is somehow worthwhile

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i blame the baby boomers
please all retire and die

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

hey!

(late boomer here)

Dr Morbius, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

in 20 years we will all be required to get our PhDs to please our geriatric boomer overlords, many of whom do not have a college education.

I don't know anything about business school (ANYTHING) but I always thought of an MBA as kind of weird. I don't really get what people take from those programs that they can't learn with real-world experience.

jessie monster, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I always thought MBA was ostensibly what most frat/jock types were going to school for, ie the equivalent of "Industrial Arts" class is high school.

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I think you read a bunch of those Machiavelli vs. Sun Tzu BUSINESS IS LIKE WAR books.

I am confused by the concept of MLS or MLIS degrees. What do you learn about librarian-ing? Isn't the Dewey Decimal System pretty much set in stone?

milo z, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

world always needs librarians! nedraggett.jpg

jessie monster, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

a lot of mba programs then bring in a lot of those non-academic/phd early-retirement boomers to teach classes!
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rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

the world needs a fucking overhaul

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Library job market (for decent positions)is v competitive, right? Hence the pressure for higher degree plumage...

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

MLIS coursework is lots of programming/database stuff. it seems pretty light, like there is no reason it should be a two-year course and not one-year.

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

xxpost good thing the AGE OF AQUARIUS is upon--

oh... never mind...

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i am an aquarius :/

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I am confused by the concept of MLS or MLIS degrees. What do you learn about librarian-ing? Isn't the Dewey Decimal System pretty much set in stone?

You learn about different databases, how to solve various types of requests, how to help patrons, how to evaluate what books are going to be good for your library and what to pitch, cataloging, etc. the list goes on and on. And most academic libraries use Library of Congress, not Dewey Decimal.

Library job market is very very tight. The key is to specialize!

Mr. Que, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

almost did MLS years ago but i'm now pretty discouraged.

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, Mr. Que, that makes the idea much more understandable.

milo z, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

though i agree that it should be a year degree, but maybe if it is two, you take the first year and learn general stuff, and then take second year for specialization (science, legal, academic, music) and apprentice somewhere.

Mr. Que, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Rrrobyn nothing personal, just lame boomer humor.

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Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

har i know - now is the REAL age of aquarius amirite
i am going to a) work hard and 'make a difference' and/or b) move to the north and live underground and make weird electronic coms shit

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

ok b) sounds really pretty good right now. i wld do an internet radio show.

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I am maybe doing MLS next year - both Chicago-area programs can be done in a year if you do them full-time.

n/a, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I did my MLS in 3 semesters, after I quit my job and went full time. I do not advise taking 5 classes during one semester, though, esp. if you have a part-time job. The work wasn't hard, but there was A LOT of it.

molly mummenschanz, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

b) sounds awesome, rrrobyn.

let's start noize dude summer camp and electrocomplex in Alberta

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

CIO: baby boom academics living so long.

for serious

horseshoe, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

lols 8080

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm hoping when the baby boomers leave the convention of working 9-5 will go away. 11-7 or 10-6 would be such an enormous jump in my quality of life. i keep expecting as i get older to stop hating getting up early but it's just not happening.

bell_labs, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

^^^^^^yesssssss

deej, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Absolutely OTMFM.

It's not the 8 hours that destroys me, it's the time they start.

Jon Lewis, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm talking NORTHWEST-TERRITORIES north electronoisecomplex
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aaw yeah screw 9-5 utter nonsense

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm fine with 9-5, kiddies

Dr Morbius, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

ok that works too

xp you shut up

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

computer died (w/ all resumes), ipod died, car dying, bank acc't @ -$700, no rent, no job, no loans, pawned my camera for $33 of gas money, feeling pretty hopeless :(

remy bean, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

typing this and reading craigslist on wii

remy bean, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

cio the world sending remy bummerz all the time

that is a shitty situation, duder. you have anyone you can call for help?

river wolf, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh remy no :(

Trayce, Monday, 13 August 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Yaoooow, that sure sucks the big balls.

caek, Monday, 13 August 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah srsly what the hell that all has to cut it out for you remy - sending you light (though cash wld obv be better - i am also half living off light so y'know, it kinda works and can bring teh cash)

rrrobyn, Monday, 13 August 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

that's pretty sweet you have a wii tho

sanskrit, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 01:45 (seventeen years ago) link

cio having no idea what is going on and letting the confused impatience turn me into a dickhead. sigh.

Trayce, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 02:10 (seventeen years ago) link


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