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HI DERE

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― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 2 December 2004 03:21 (twenty years ago)

If I had a picture of me getting paid money to read this thread, I'd post it.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Thursday, 2 December 2004 03:25 (twenty years ago)

such a picture would be art in the truest sense of the word, jeffie.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 2 December 2004 03:29 (twenty years ago)

Too bad. Me getting paid to eat dinner will have to be good enough. Bye, kiddo!

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Thursday, 2 December 2004 03:30 (twenty years ago)

take care muffin!!!!

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 2 December 2004 03:31 (twenty years ago)

He listens to Supergrass and T Rex and stomps his glam rocker boots in perfect time to the beat.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 2 December 2004 03:41 (twenty years ago)

mm burrito and t rex

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Thursday, 2 December 2004 04:13 (twenty years ago)

why did i always think there was an extra sylable in gulaberry? dinglebery. hahaha. duh

― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 2 December 2004 04:23 (twenty years ago)

HERRO!
http://members.aol.com/folcrating/dcgggoh.jpg

^^^^^^^^^^^D3AN^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 2 December 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago)

That's true. I do have that belt.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:28 (twenty years ago)

AND BOYISH SEX HAMMER DISPOSITION

― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago)

So much corn to smash, so little time...

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago)

DAMN YOU ABE LINCOLN AND YOUR EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION

― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 2 December 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...

Hello Dean,

I've seen "Winchester" now. I liked it . What did you think?

Adam

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Very expensive wallpaper.

― urban in nature (deangulberry), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I liked it too.

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

It was definitely pretty, but I'll take the Bechtle any day.

― urban in nature (deangulberry), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

I liked Bechtle a lot, though the more I looked at his paintings the more self-conscious everything seemed - a lot of purposeful obtuseness!

Not that Winchester wasn't self-conscious.

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Well, Bechtle is very self-conscious by nature. It's what he does for a living. But still, I prefer someone who chooses to portray some representational skill over someone who falls back on the comforts of abstraction. That said, Blake's piece was nice but he definitely hides behind many of the lazy conventions from various media which someone people find to be a strength, but I don't. Diff'rent strokes.

― urban in nature (deangulberry), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

But still, I prefer someone who chooses to portray some representational skill over someone who falls back on the comforts of abstraction.

I kind of agree with you about this, but I do like abstraction and I though there was definitely a skill involved in making Winchester. Besides, Bechtle wasn't above a bit of covert abstraction himself...

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I mean, paint some fucking faces, for god's sake!

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

Well, he did have quite a few figural works and I actually preferred those to the car paintings. It's definitely a more powerful and impressive statement to realistically render a person instead of just various shiny items of nostalgia.

I'm definitely not saying that Blake isn't skilled. It's clear that a lot of time and effort goes into his works, but he also works really hard to combine different media to the point where his work can evade the criticism of any particular medium. I'm not saying that this is his purpose to be evasive, but it's really hard to have a critical position on "intermedia," especially in regards to works that are so abstract. Blah. Art.

― THE MOUSE GETS EATEN BY THE TARANTULA SHORTLY AFTER THE TARANTULA COMES OUT (dea, Friday, 10 June 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

link to pictures please

otherwise it looks like you guys are just pretentious twats

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

What? NEVER!

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

JaXon, all you have to do is walk a few blocks and you can see this all for yourself!

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

Blah. Art.

No, this is good! The noise board should always be like this!

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

bechtle:

http://www.artincontext.org/images/LKM/0000/LKM0023B.jpg

blake:

http://www.artforum.com/uploads/upload.000/id06389/article06.jpg

otherwise it looks like you guys are just pretentious twats

Always. And especially when asked to discuss fluff like "Winchester!"

― THE MOUSE GETS EATEN BY THE TARANTULA SHORTLY AFTER THE TARANTULA COMES OUT (dea, Friday, 10 June 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Here is Bechtle's "Alameda Gran Torino", a print of which sits by my desk.

http://www.sfmoma.org/images/ma/exhib_detail/1974_AlamedaGranTorino.jpg.jpg

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

You know me from ILE/ILM and you've seen my slsk folder - I like "fluff"!

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

haha

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Is Dean the Shakey Mo Collier of art?

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

It's definitely a more powerful and impressive statement to realistically render a person instead of just various shiny items of nostalgia.

ROCKIST. (ART-IST?)

― Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha!

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

Craftist, possibly.

(XP - I don't know even know what that means! Is being Shakey Mo a bad thing?)

― something about a tarantula coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha, exactly!

Let's be nice, though. I'm curious about this -

I'm not saying that this is his purpose to be evasive, but it's really hard to have a critical position on "intermedia," especially in regards to works that are so abstract.

Do you feel the same way about abstract painting, Dean?

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Yes. And that's not necessarily a slight, but rather that I don't work in abstracts so my critical opinion is that of someone who fancies himself a realist. It's by no means a knock on people who paint abstractly. That said, I've known quite a few very lazy people who fancy themselves artists because they paint 500 sloppy abstracts a day. And in the age of conceptual art, they're definitely right in their claim to be an artist. I personally prefer to see more craft in my art, is what I'm saying. I am art-ist ;(

― something about a tarantula coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I see. Well, my own inability to adequately produce a representation of "reality" through any means of expression may also, by that rationale, explain my preference for abstraction. If the dice had fallen differently, I would probably share tha opinion.

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

In other words - I am not going to argue with you.

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

That's fine! Your opinion is completely valid. If you do go back to the SFMOMA, you should check out the videos were Bechtle explains his process. It's by no means inherent talent and can be learned through observation and trial-and-error. But, you won't get your BFA and suddenly be painting at Bechtle's level, which is why some people give up on painting realistically. It's definitely much more of a long term commitment than other styles.

― something about a tarantula coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I wanted to see the videos but I didn't have time. I'm getting my membership soon though.

― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

It's definitely a more powerful and impressive statement to realistically render a person instead of just various shiny items of nostalgia.
ROCKIST. (ART-IST?)

Wait, how is this "rockist"? Please explain.

― something about a tarantula coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

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