What do I want in a mixer?

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Uh. I need a mixer to mix my laptop with my sampler. I know I could just do it on the laptop itself but I think analog mixer controls would be nice. I guess it might be cool if I could DJ with it too and maybe have effect send... :/ Whaddya think? :/

Cool Hand Luuke (ex machina), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

http://www.ccfc.ca/English/images/pictures/drink%20mixer.jpg

latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Friday, 10 June 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

latebloomer otm

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 11 June 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

STAB STAB.

I just made an awesome recording but I got up to look at my computer and Audacity fucking crashed. That software sucks. Plus the part of the recording that did get saved sounds shitty because of my no good mixer. What should I do with a mixer than only serves to RUIN recordings?

Cool Hand Luuke (ex machina), Saturday, 11 June 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)

never used/heard of Audacity. get a [k] of Cubase SX, it fuckin rules. trade shitty mixer in for better one.

Amon (eman), Saturday, 11 June 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

The Mixer is close to me
He turns his head and smiles at me.
And I'm am glad
He earns my salary.

The mixer
In Espanol restaurants
The people and staff they clap
The mixer sweats
In comic type letters the voices are saying
Clap, clap
The mixer
sweats
The mixer sweats

The mixer of Jamaican origin
Born, raised in the US*
observes the Victorian [press/prayer]
Clap, clap, clap
Clap, clap

The BLBDS is overeasy on the [carpets/compress]
And the mixer sweats.

[First eqipment line]
[Second equipment line]

The mixer is close to me
He turns his head
and smiles at me**

[spoken] 'It possessed the sort of bright sound microphone with audio pickup pattern.
It can produce broad responses, hi-fidelity quality, no feedback and no
howling etc. We can express good sound of your voice, an excellent
melody orchestra, a self-contained filter control, explosive breath
sounds, controlled explosive breath sounds ...... wind noises, in
different locations....'

Mixer sweats

* [In the Peel session version, US is replaced by South Yorkshire --Ed.]
** [In the Peel session version this line is His face is looking / over at the Insect Posse --Ed.]

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 11 June 2005 05:29 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
Seriously, I need a mixer. It needs the ability to work with both line and turntable levels and to do a STEREO (A lot I've seen only do mono fx send) effect send/recv on both sides of the mix. I think a DJ oriented mixer would be the best. Can you turn off the BPM counters on them? I don't wanna use them while I am performing live. That would be handy for DJing though. Jorel? Drew? Anyone?

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I looked at a bunch of the behringer non dj ones and I liked that they had balanced 1/4" outputs...

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

I have a Stanton RM-Three which can do everything you need. I don't think they make that model anymore but the SMX-501 looks like its more recent equivalent.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

That looks cool. How does the headphone out for cueing work? Do you just assign it to L or R on the crossfader or do you pick 1 2 or 3? What is the selection mechanism?

"OS2 compatible"

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

That is definitely looking like it has everything I want. No BPM counters but I'd feel cooler without them. (Plus they suck but everything seems to have them now).

The SMX-501 looks like it retails for ~$400, but Froogle found one for ~$300 and it looks like ebay has a some lower prices. Although I would like to go sub 200 if possible. But will that bite me in the arse?

What other features do mixers have that I might be interested in?

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

On my mixer, each of the three channels has its own headphone cue so I'm assuming that it's the same with this one. However, on mine you can only crossfade between 1&3, but on the newer mixers you might be able to choose between any combination of 1,2, and 3.

I've never used a BPM counter but I've never felt the need to have one.

I briefly looked at some of the other Stanton mixers but I didn't notice any cheaper ones that had FX send/return. I don't think you'll find the features you want for sub-200 (except maybe on EBay) but $300 - $400 new sounds like a fairly good price for this mixer.

As for other features, lots of pricier mixers have built-in effects, but you obviously want to use your own effects so that's probably useless to you. I love having more than two channels -- three channels are infinitely better for mixing noise/ambient. You might also want to take note of the # and types of inputs. IIRC, the SMX-501 has six inputs (three phono, three stereo), but depending on what you're doing, six inputs can fill up fast (I have used 2CD's, 2 turntables, 1 computer so that's five right there but fortunately my mixer has nine inputs so I don't worry about running out of space).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

(Is there a toggle for flipping between line and TT on each input?)

The RM-3 Froogles at $135 for a sample model. What do you think?

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Also, this looks handy: Technics 1200 pitch lock removal

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

(Is there a toggle for flipping between line and TT on each input?)

Yeah, that's fairly essential. From the picture (even the large one), I can't tell which switches do this, but surely they're there. And that's a fantastic price for the RM-Three, shit, I won't tell you what I paid for it four years ago.

Re: the pitch lock removal -- that's just another reason for me to feel good about buying Vestax instead of Technics.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

I might hop on the RM-3 since I just got a paycheck from a rebate.....

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Stanton Magnetics, Inc. is proud to announce the release of the exciting new RM-3S professional DJ mixer. Based on the popular RM-Three, the RM-3S keeps most of the original layout and design but with improved features and better control. First of all the entire faceplate has a new look using brushed aluminum with a silver finish, the RM-3S now looks like the rest of the RM family of DJ mixers. In addition to the look the feel has been improved by using a redesigned fader, which allows a smoother more gradual curve. Plus the new RM-3S now includes a Cue Pan fader for monitoring your mix through the headphones. Now DJs can gain more control without losing their wallet!

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Hmm SMX301 is cheaper...

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.pssl.com/bitemdetail.tpl?eqint_KeyIDdata=37443&id=TL01

nothing about effect send...


Does the RM-3 have effect send/recv? That didn't seem clear to me.

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

aha "- Assignable AUX send/return "

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

It looks like they simplified their lowend line quite a bit.

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I've never had luck w/ a Stanton mixer finding them not very well made, but perhaps they've improved. They have some new models that look fancy:

http://www.turntablelab.com/index1-eq.html

but scroll down and check out the Pioneer DJM-707. At that price, that's a very good mixer. I use one of these in the bar where I do parties on weekends, and I own the Rane TTM-56i which Turntable Lab compares it to. The fact that they'd even make that comparison is telling as the Rane is several hundred dollars more.

I don't recall the aux issues with either as I've used neither.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

People seemed hot on the Stanton on DnB forums.

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

the one stanton I owned was total junk, fell apart in many ways. Others I've used seemed cheap, so I've avoided them. Maybe it's just brand disloyality. From experiance, I rarely see them in bars/clubs and when I do they are a mess if they work at all, but I assume the type of venue that buys a Stanton is looking to go cheap so they buy a crappy cheap one. I tend to think with things that take a lot of physical wear, it's worth the extra money to buy something well made that will last. Conventional Wisdom accross the board says Rane, Vestax, Allen and Heath and Pioneer.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

I am unemployed.

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

you get what you pay for. Spend 150 on a stanton, then spend another 150 on another mixer a few months later, then another. Or spend 300 on the pioneer and hope it lasts, you know?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Don't hurt me so

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

it's your money.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Do you only drink "good" vodka?

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Dude. I owned "shitty" mixers. Twice. They broke. Now they are paperweights. So now I use a "good" mixer. I would've saved A LOT of money if I'd bought a good mixer to begin with. Instead I bought a Gemini. Then a Stanton.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Which stanton?

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Right now I have the worst mixer ever. There's tons of signal leak between stuff. Really hard to get a clean silent sound. And the cue sucks

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I don't recall, it was a few years ago. Like I mentioned above, maybe they've improved. It's really hard for brands like that to change the perception. Maybe the new Stantons are very well made. But when comparing the more expensive 501 w/ the Rane Empath(which isn't quite fair, as that Rane is still quite a bit more expensive), Turntable Lab says:

Verdict: Minuses
While this mixer is undoubtedly great for home use, it probably won't be up to par in club situations. If you are comparing this to Rane's Empath and wondering what the big difference is, it comes down to quality. In addition to the Rane's extra features, it also has better sound quality and a higher standard for construction and components. The SMX-501 is nowhere near poor quality, but it isn't on the same level as the Empath.

For the super cheap 201, they say "Low cost, but long term durability might be an issue. For casual or beginner use."

Turntable Lab doesn't mention the 301, but the new M.304 looks like they're trying to fight that reputation, focusing on the quality of construction.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

I will have actual cash money available by mid autumn. hmmm

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

I've never had a problem with Stanton, but I'm ludicrously careful with all my stuff and rarely have take anything outside my apartment. Everyone's experience is different. A lot of the time they make these things with scratch DJ's in mind, i.e. assuming that you're going to get a bit rough with the mixer, so if you aren't planning to mix in that style then you can sometimes get away with a less solid-bodied model (although obviously it never hurts to buy equipment that's built like a tank).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

rarely have take anything outside my apartment

This is actually quite key, as the act of dragging your equipment from place to place always seems to produce more daily wear-and-tear that actual usage.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

I mean, duh, everybody knows that but it's always good to reconsider that when you're thinking about dropping more $$$ on something.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

The stanton RM-3 is a factorty refurbished unit w/ full factory warranty included.It being a factory refurbished product it has been tested and prepared to be resold by stanton

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

I'm being offered a slightly used Vestax PCV-275 for $150. From what I've read, it's a sturdy, entry-level mixer, and the asking price is pretty much in range with what current offers I've seen, but I was wondering if anyone would care to comment...

Manuel, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 07:19 (seventeen years ago)

eManuel

eman, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 15:24 (seventeen years ago)

six years pass...

Just looking for a good solid basic mixer to use with two turntables - want to be able to record mixes right into my laptop with minimal fuss.
Any recommendations? There look to be a couple of basic Numark models in the $100-ish range.

Brio2, Monday, 5 January 2015 16:59 (eleven years ago)

also something I can use for gigs, so something tough would be good.

Brio2, Monday, 5 January 2015 17:03 (eleven years ago)


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