Moving to Richmond, VA.

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Good idea? Know anyone down there? (Aside from our very own BROCK KAPPAHZ)

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Ask n/a.

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

come down soonish!

brock (brock), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

isn't that the town where good shows happen at the bowling alley?
m.

msp (mspa), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

wrong
chicago!

brock (brock), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

I lived there for two years. Ask me any questions you want.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I'm thinking of moving to India or Bulgaria, I don't suppose anyone can help?

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

when did you move out n/a? i've been here for about a month and im really enjoying it so far.
probably gonna be bartending at helens and avalon. both are on main.

brock (brock), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I was there from May '01 to Dec '03. I think we talked about this before because you lived in Charlottesville, right?

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

I've driven through Virginia and somehow always managed to get lost and miss the interesting parts.

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

wrong side of the road

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

harrisonburg, VA...totally forgot that conversation n/a.

brock (brock), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/6/8301538_a0d8860bf9.jpg

?, jackson ward, dakar?, johannesburg, dimona (the other centre for the Black Hebrews)

we didn't eat here, in the end, but it looked good

Richmond in general i liked, really. seemed VERY good for thrift stores, though we didnt really have the time, as we didnt have long there.

i'd say it might be alright

chinatown bus goes there now!

terry lennox. (gareth), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

i dont know what the name of the town under the first clock is. i used to know, but i forgot

terry lennox. (gareth), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

croakers apparently has the best catfish platter in richmond!

brock (brock), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

General rundown on Richmond:
PROS:
* Cheap nice housing. You probably want to live in the Fan, or maybe the Museum District, that's generally where the artsy types live, and it's near Plan 9. We had a good-sized 2 bedroom apt. that cost $650 a month.
* Plan 9, which is genuinely a great record store.
* A couple of fantastic vegetarian Chinese places, Panda Garden and China Panda. One of them had an awesome vegetarian buffet on the weekend.
* Video Fan: a surprisingly good independant video place.
* Byrd Theater: cool old-timey movie theater with organist.
* Generally a nice laid-back (sometimes too much so) artsy vibe.

CONS:
* Generally very socially conservative, lots of barely repressed racism. I lived within blocks of a monument to the Confederate soldiers and a monument to Stonewall Jackson. It's very much a Southern city.
* No music scene. Despite the existence of VCU, a heavily arts-based college, there were hardly any interersting bands while I was there. Everyone still obsessed with hardcore (ie local heros AVAIL). There's probably a noise scene that I wasn't aware of at the time though. There are NO good venues, especially for smaller bands. The ones that exist have idiot bookers who would book like 8 bands for the same night with no eye for consistency or time or anything.
* It can be VERY slow. I think this is why we eventually ended up moving.

Things might have changed in the last couple of years, but this is how it was when I was there.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

We had a good-sized 2 bedroom apt. that cost $650 a month.
I pay twice this!!!

*weeps*

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

oh shit yea, it looked cheap there! NC even more so, but i really couldnt imagine living in NC

terry lennox. (gareth), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

for the most part you hit the nail on the head as far as my experience of this town goes so far...

* No music scene. Despite the existence of VCU, a heavily arts-based college, there were hardly any interersting bands while I was there. Everyone still obsessed with hardcore (ie local heros AVAIL). There's probably a noise scene that I wasn't aware of at the time though. There are NO good venues, especially for smaller bands. The ones that exist have idiot bookers who would book like 8 bands for the same night with no eye for consistency or time or anything.

i truely think that this is gonna change or is making a move in the direction of change. september had a random scattering of three great shows that this neck of the woods hasn't seen in awhile (wolf eyes/hive mind/ sunburned&markers).

n/a are you talking about the raygun with the horrible sense for booking?

brock (brock), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

as far as venue space goes, there are a few promising places opening up. been talking with a guy in oregon hill that is gonna be opening a bar with show space

and the ADA gallery has been used for show space for the past couple months. patchworkcollective.org has been doing OK shows. (brought in owl sounds).

brock (brock), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Nanci Raygun: YES. What a hellhole. Huge fucking space but no one who could draw ever played there so it would always be empty and vast. My band, a kind of no-wave/pop band, was booked there with like 5 hardcore and nu-metal bands. Sarah's band was cancelled from there at least THREE TIMES because of overbooking. Gah.

I always hoped that the Richmond scene would get better, but it never seemed to. I think there really needs to be an underground house/basement show thing for this to happen, because the clubs there suck.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

yea man. shitastic hardcore goes down there ALLLLLL of the time. i've pretty much given up hope on that being a solid venue.

apparently the slum of a house i live in now used to be a big basement venue. although it think it was bands like WHITE CROSS that came in.

brock (brock), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

my frenz are all into a bunch of hardcorin stuff from VA...

http://www.theperpetualmotionmachine.com/

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m.

msp (mspa), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Don't do it. You'll be so sick of it after 9 months, unless you plan to settle down and raise a family. Also you will need a car. Most of my friends have been spending all their time trying to get out of Richmond.

Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

nine years pass...

* No music scene. Despite the existence of VCU, a heavily arts-based college, there were hardly any interersting bands while I was there. Everyone still obsessed with hardcore (ie local heros AVAIL). There's probably a noise scene that I wasn't aware of at the time though. There are NO good venues, especially for smaller bands. The ones that exist have idiot bookers who would book like 8 bands for the same night with no eye for consistency or time or anything.

omg this has changed SO MUCH. the music scene in RVA, esp the metal scene, is completely insane

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:29 (eleven years ago)

It's pretty amazing how dramatically this shifted.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:39 (eleven years ago)


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