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Never ventured into this strange wasteland. Can a noise dude advise me?

Underwriters Laboratories® (blastocyst), Friday, 3 March 2006 06:07 (nineteen years ago)

start here:

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lil' flipper (eman), Friday, 3 March 2006 06:10 (nineteen years ago)

haha .. I'm listening to them RIGHT NOW totally coincedentally .. "BIG RAILROAD BLUES"

fucking SKULLFUCK motherfuckers

some folks trust in reason ... others trust in might..

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 3 March 2006 06:57 (nineteen years ago)

if you don't like them ... you are a Pitchdork, and are therefore worhtless

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 3 March 2006 06:59 (nineteen years ago)

i've only heard like one GD song in my life but i actually really liked it! it was "sugar magnolia," i think.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 3 March 2006 06:59 (nineteen years ago)

it's funny ppl always complain about them being overrated and everywhere - it's not like i ever hear them on the radio.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 3 March 2006 07:00 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, it's tru .. they are kind of a non-entity unless you hang around "deadheads" or something ... and who the hell does that

makes exploring their catalog kind of fun, actually..

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 3 March 2006 07:07 (nineteen years ago)

is "american beauty" a good first album?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 3 March 2006 07:28 (nineteen years ago)

yes

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 March 2006 07:28 (nineteen years ago)

(but not wholly representative)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 March 2006 07:29 (nineteen years ago)

i've been listening to Shakedown Street on repeat for the past 3 weeks.

also, http://unixgu.ru/dead/

i don't know what's what in there, but have fun trying stuff out.

team jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 3 March 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

i also really like the title track from Blues for Allah. there are two versions of that in there.

team jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 3 March 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

i love you anyway, stormy.

Jack Cole (jackcole), Friday, 3 March 2006 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

i really wldn't start w/ shakedown st (great alb cov tho)

i've yet to meet a dead fan who didn't like Live/Dead

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 3 March 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

i have no idea what the rest of Shakedown Street the album sounds like. i'm talking just the song. i've been listening to a bunch of rock band goes disco type shit.

team jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 3 March 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

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I was raised on the GD via hippy dad. It has taken me a long time to appreciate them again.

Jerry >>>>>>>>> Phil >>>>> Bob

elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Friday, 3 March 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Jerry + Phil + Bob

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

get Live/Dead and Europe '72, they are the only good albums, with the possible exceptions of American Beauty and Workingman's.

Understand they are not a studio band and always had overthought things when recording.

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Beauty and/or Workingman's ->
Aoxomoxoa and/or Anthem ->
Live/Dead and/or Two From the Vault ->
Europe '72 ->
One From the Vault ->
5/8/77 ->
Dozin' at the Knick and/or Without a Net

then go back and start to fill in

?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

this is really nerdy, and I'm stretching back to my high school days, but if you can jump on archive.org or find wherever deadheads go to download stuff, get these shows:

3/1/69
11/8/69
10/4/70
8/27/72
8/6/74
5/8/77

i cant believe i can still remember this shit (only cheated a little)

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

...-> 12/31/95

(runs away)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha.. i remember my deadhead friends would always talk about going anywhere in the world for the "millenium show". yeah that one sort of didn't happen..

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

or maybe they did do a NYE 2000 with that shitty Garcia-less "The Dead" or whatever they called themselves. was never interested in hearing a note of that stuff.

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

i love the dead

chaki (chaki), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

i think "box of rain" is the second-most-played song on my itunes

pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

(it was a phish reference)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

i've tried and failed....they always sound kinda wussy to me...and well...i mean...look at me.

bb (bbrz), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, you wear scarves.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I particularly enjoy both the Dead and scarves

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

i love dead set and reckoning. where iz teh love? i like all the studio albums up until in the dark.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

anthem of the sun, then live dead, then workingman's, then american beauty, then aoxomoxaoxoa.com

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, you wear scarves.

made of ribbon and lace. and i tuck my shirts in.

bb (bbrz), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

My SHOCKING opinion on this matter:

They're a singles band.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

yeah the ribbon and lace is key. wool, some sort of blend - these are not problems.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

i had a friend in high school who toured and hung out in "The Lot" so much he was nicknamed Razzle by some dudes.

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

i lost my fanciest one on the f train durring the break-up/new years bender...the one with tassels

seriously...ian (or someone), throw up a primer mix...i should totally dig the dead, but...

bb (bbrz), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Shasta how many shows have you been to BRAH?

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

i can't really toss up a mix cuz i have it all on vinyl. if you guys want to wait until the next time i am sitting around my house bored, though, i'd be glad to.

just download anthem of the sun. it isn't very many tracks.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Dominguez Hills - May 1990
Las Vegas - April 1991

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

"They're a singles band."

as a comp, what a long strange trip its been is near-perfect. that was my self-introduction to the band when i was 16. i bought a copy at the swansea mall whilst drunk. i played that thing OUT. a perfect starting point if you see the double vinyl for cheap.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure how many dead shows I have been to since I was so damn young. I would guess 25+? One of my earliest memories is of a Dead show being slightly scared of a dude dressed in a jester costume. I think I was still in diapers at that point.

elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

hi andrew!!!!

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

19 dead shows. It's like a fucking cult, it consumed 90% of my listening as a teenager. the really sad thing is these people are openminded, but so narrow-minded about music. I bet a lot of these hippies would love krautrock or paradise garage style disco if they just gave it a chance.

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

6/25/93 RFK
6/26/93 RFK
3/28/94 Nassau
7/16/94 RFK
7/17/94 RFK
10/14/94 MSG (Set II only)
10/15/94 MSG
6/24/95 RFK
6/25/95 RFK

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

can I interest any of you in grateful dead merch? holla atcha boy

elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

do you have grateful dead underwaears??

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

i want skulls & roses.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

we have boxers w/ the steal your face on them

elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

put me down for one pair.
in april, the next time i am in RI.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

gabbneb, is there a database out there you're working off of?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

You fucking hippies.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

I have mixed feelings about Anthem of the Sun. There's some nice stuff on it, but their approach to psychedelia feels sort of didactic, as though their big mission is to TRIP YOU OUT with their psychedelic song titles, that picture on the back cover, etc. It's kind of arrogant and annoying, but they seem like nice enough guys that I forgive 'em.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Anthem is very over the top.

smarter Deadheads try to brush off hippie-baiting by going "Well, Phil Lesh studied under Stockhausen". But would these fuckers ever listen to Stockhausen? No..

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

anthem is bombastic which, i feel, works in its favor.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

"Anthem is very over the top."

Yeah, but so are ten million other psych albums.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

a lot of the best psych albums are naively maximal, whereas Anthem seems to do it a smartass "look at all the toys we have" fashion.

although i don't know what i'm complaining about, i love that studio other one suite, the rest i'll pass on.

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Steve

an annotated version of my list...

6/25/93 RFK - first show, age 17, met up with my F&M fratboy summer roommates, get Half Step (hallelujah) opener leading pretty sweet list for a first time, including Althea, Cassidy, Cumberland, China->Rider, UJB, Sugar Mag, and glorious Weight encore. Hornsby on piano throughout.

6/26/93 RFK - liked it so much the first time I went back the next day and scored tix in the lot, where I also ran into this dude. made my way within 50 yards of the stage, where I'd be for every remaining RFK show. Lacklusterish show. Jerry sits in with opener Sting during Walking on the Moon.

3/28/94 Nassau - with high school friends (was my sister there?!). Dreary rain outside set right with a cozy Good Times Roll opener, and reflected in Box of Rain, excellent Rain (Beatles) cover, That Would Be Something ("...to meet you in the pouring rain"), and Bertha ("It was all night pouring, pouring rain, but not a drop on me"). Singing was great in this show, especially in Rain and set 2 highlight He's Gone. Brokedown encore.

7/16/94 RFK - Alone at this show (or was it the next night?) the summer before freshman year of college, I see a girl with a Columbia hat on while sitting on the floor waiting for set I. She's starting next year too and is in the same dorm. Will turn out later that she lives one floor below me and becomes one of my more important friends for much of the 4 years. Passable show with nice Cold Rain and Snow->Picasso Moon opener, and set 2 highlight Estimated->Crazy Fingers (and crazy Drums).

7/17/94 RFK - Nothing special about this one, but got my long-awaited first Eyes, as well as fave So Many Roads.

10/14/94 MSG (Set II only) - my first show with my college best friend, we scored tix halfway through, and make it inside at setbreak to join the friend mentioned above, one of the dudes now in the National, etc. And how are we rewarded? Scarlet->Fire set II opener! Attics!!

10/15/94 MSG - this one was with my friend's hs friends who would transfer in the next year and live with us for the next 3 years. Ok show, but fun list. The profusion of mounted cops outside aligns with the theme - Shakedown, Stagger Lee, Deal, Victim or the Crime, excellent New Speedway! Plus hometown Tom Thumb's and I Want To Tell You encore!

6/24/95 RFK - Dylan opens here, and Hornsby's back. Not sure, but I think this was the show where the crowd buzzed about Al Gore being backstage. We're near the end of course, and it's reflected in some of the playing, but this was a poignant one even at the time. The last Friend of the Devil (and Days Between) ever, and for an affecting encore Jerry tries real hard on the first Black Muddy River in four years.

6/25/95 RFK - another rain show with Rain, Box of Rain, and Samba in the Rain. excellent Shakedown opener, but there are obviously problems here. Jerry sat in with Bobby D on 2 songs to little discernable effect, and Bobby W pulls a 3-song cowboy break in the middle of the first set. some songs go to mush and the overall not-getting-it-up/pack-it-in mood is reflected in set 2's Samson, Ship of Fools, Truckin, Rollin and Tumblin, and Wharf Rat. Encore? Jerry pulls out the final Brokedown Palace.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 4 March 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

Some notes from my memory:

05-05-90 California State U. Dominguez Hills, Carson, Ca. (Sat)
1: LTGTR, Race Is On*, Help> Slipknot> Franklin's, Queen Jane, Loser, Me & My Uncle> Mexicali, Loose Lucy, Saturday Night
2: Truckin> Crazy Fingers> Playin> Uncle John> Drumz> Miracle> Mr. Fantasy> GDTRFB> Around E: Touch
*Kentucky Derby daylast "Race Is On": 05-06-89 [67] - FM broadcast KPFK

Uh...

04-27-91 Sam Boyd Silver Bowl, U.N.L.V., Las Vegas, Nv. (Sat)
1: Touch, Walking Blues, FOTD, Mexicali> Maggie's Farm, Loose Lucy, Cassidy, Might As Well
2: Sugar Magnolia> Scarlet> Fire, Playin> Uncle John> Drumz> Miracle> Black Peter> Saturday Night E: The Weight
Carlos Santana opened - piano jam tuning before "Sugar Magnolia"

Woah...

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 4 March 2006 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

wow, they really brought it for the west coast didn't they

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 4 March 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

6 weeks after that last show there, I sleep in late, feeling not sick but not quite explicably unprepared to deal with the world. I get up mid-morning, turn on the tv, and get a baaad feeling when I stumble across a picture of Jerry set into a box on the screeen. Call in to work and talk to older Walnut Creek/Santa Barbaran co-intern who's the only person around to get it. End up that night at impromptu memorial at Lincoln Memorial.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 4 March 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)


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