do i go to hell for pirating max/msp

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― JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

IF YOU DON'T USE IT, YES

― Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)

that looks like fun

(n/a)

― sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:29 (twenty years ago)

ha i never got around to using my copy so trashed it.

― nervous.gif (eman), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:47 (twenty years ago)

http://www.audiosynth.com/

― nervous.gif (eman), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:52 (twenty years ago)

http://www.pya.cc/pyaimg/pimg.php?imgid=23982

― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:57 (twenty years ago)

several personal friends of mine work / used to work for the company, and they work very very very hard

here are the names of the people you're fucking with:
http://www.cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/Company/People

― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:02 (twenty years ago)

mr kit clayton works there doesnt he?!

― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:10 (twenty years ago)

look what happened to Opcode.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:15 (twenty years ago)

Opcode is a sad, sad, sad story

I dunno, a company gets to 200-400 employees, that's one thing, but when you're talking about a company that basically employs about 12 people and some consultants, then it's dangerous to take the product for granted

sorry to lecture

― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:17 (twenty years ago)

>mr kit clayton works there doesnt he?!

& gold chains -- though I think that's just on occasion now -- not sure, he's still listed

― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:18 (twenty years ago)

I'M GOING TO PIRATE COPIES OF PROTOOLS

― STRAIGHT FERN GULLY (jaxon), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

did you download max/msp just because EYE uses it?

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:35 (twenty years ago)

I was just joking that pirating killed Opcode = so don't do it. Personally, I hated Vision and was a Performer user at the time. I took a class in the old Max, did a bit of programming during college...most fun stuff was using a Roland PG-1000 as a control device.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

opcode - lest we forget

oppenheim is the coolest fellow one could hope to meet

& of course it wasn't pirating that killed opcode, it was Gibson

― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:44 (twenty years ago)

(not saying anyone should have been using Vision by the late 90's, Digital Performer has been the pro choice for a decade)

― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 23:12 (twenty years ago)

way I always saw it was Performer was number 1 untill Studio Vision took the lead for a long time...I remember a time when most studios used Studio Vision and the only people who used Performer were bedroom types who'd used it for ages. Then a little thing called the MOTU 2408 came out. People flocked to what was essentially the first decent affordable multi-track interface for home computers, and MOTU was back on top.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 20 April 2006 00:52 (twenty years ago)

I haven't even pirated it. I use Pure Data. And I have been long before I knew Ey3 was using PD or MAX.

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 20 April 2006 01:08 (twenty years ago)

you don't go to hell for pirating max/msp, you just tell the rest of us how you did it.

obviously, i also use pd.

― lf (lfam), Thursday, 20 April 2006 05:24 (twenty years ago)

i just want everything to work. if i didn't have a life i'd use linux

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 20 April 2006 05:26 (twenty years ago)

that said, i'm pretty pissed to hear (just as i was about to invest in a copy) that they aren't going to port it to an operating system that isn't based on trusted computing. i really think they need a new business model because this pace interlok dependent shit is soooo late 1990s.

― lf (lfam), Thursday, 20 April 2006 05:28 (twenty years ago)

yeah jw, i just want everything to work, too. the life of pd-users is a hard one.

― lf (lfam), Thursday, 20 April 2006 05:29 (twenty years ago)

I loooove Digital Performer but finally upgrading from 2.7 to 4.61 after years of living in the past is big motherfuckin' drag. . . .

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 20 April 2006 05:56 (twenty years ago)

I LOVE SONIC FOUNDRY ACID

― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Thursday, 20 April 2006 07:42 (twenty years ago)

seriously is there any way to make music these days that doesn't involve a fucking apple laptop

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 20 April 2006 12:01 (twenty years ago)

I used Performer 3.0 back in the day and have 4.something now and am re-learning a little bit. One GREAT thing is "consolidated windows". They had too many goddamn windows popping up here and there before.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 20 April 2006 12:34 (twenty years ago)

I think Drew sold us out in a Bretton Woods-type conference in like 1996. xpost

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 20 April 2006 12:43 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone here used Quartz Composer? I was thinking about controlling it with midi messages sent via PD.

Also, I use (via sending it notes on a channel every quarteer note) MidiPipe to generate midi clock for my external clocked hardware because PD is a PITA and doesn't support this!

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 20 April 2006 12:46 (twenty years ago)

if I got a big enough monitor, one day I might consider paying for Ableton Live

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:50 (twenty years ago)

though frankly there is still an enormous and nigh-unbridgeable cognitive disconnect between me and the young people of the world who like to use knobs and sliders by clicking with a mousepad

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:51 (twenty years ago)

ableton live is awesome, but i can't be arsed to learn it

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:57 (twenty years ago)

seriously is there any way to make music these days that doesn't involve a fucking apple laptop?

yeah, it's called "spending untold thousands of dollars on instruments and amps and a p.a. and pedals that are all irreplaceable if stolen." it's sort of a stupid way to do things.

― lf (lfam), Thursday, 20 April 2006 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Also, everyone who does this is a sentimental turd: see masonicboom

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 20 April 2006 17:41 (twenty years ago)

hahah

― nervous.gif (eman), Friday, 21 April 2006 01:25 (twenty years ago)

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