2002: reggae summer2003: afrobeat summer2004: disco-funk summer2005: latin soul summer
so anyway i decided that 2006 is going to be tropicalia summer ... and i went to the tower records last night and grabbed caetano's 1969 s/t, a great gilberto gil comp called "revisitado" and joao y gil.
while i was there, though, i found that they had new copies of a japanese pressing of "musik von harmonia" and the domestic reissue of cluster w/ eno ... i've got some neu! and quite a bit of can (and obv kraftwerk) kicking around but i never got THAT deep into krautrock, no cluster or harmonia round these parts to speak of
so here's the burning question ...
1) what's my tropicalia POX?? i am not going to be satisfied w/ the gil comp for long, so i've decided on ...
caetano veloso - s/t 1971caetano veloso - transacaetano veloso - araca azulgilberto gil - s/t 1968gilberto gil - s/t 1969gilberto gil - s/t 1971gilberto gil - expresso 2222jorge ben - africa brasiljorge ben - o bidujorge ben - s/t 1969
so here's the REAL question ... am i MISSING anything?? for whatever reason i'm not so attracted to the mutantes, i've had the luaka bop best-of for years now and it seems like enough. do i need any GAL COSTA? which ones??
2) now here's the WEIRD question ... what sort of KRAUTROCK should i pick up to compliment my tropicalia listening excursion?? i've been listening to tom ze's "fabrication defect" lately and listening to gil's "o canto da ema" it's got a nice spacey flow in the 2nd half ... is there a more lilting goofy soft wing to krautrock to balance out the "cluster 71" side?? is there a TROPICALIA-KRAUTROCK connection??
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)
― adam (adam), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)
gal costa - s/t (1969... the one w/ "nao identifado") - arguably the best tropicalia album, easily my favoritegal costa & caetano veloso - domingocaetano veloso - s/t (1967)gilberto gil - refazenda (side b may be post-tropicalia?)i'm not too hip on Os Mutantes... my favorite LP of theirs is the critical flop/last gasp: "jardin electro"... ymmv.
so yeah, i don't know that much tropicalia HOWEVER!!! here's some un-tropicalia but I think are even more amazing listens:
astrud gilberto - look to the rainbow (1965, pre-tropicalia... "berimbau" supposedly influenced Gil to include berimbau all over his 1st album)bola sete - ocean memories (wild, wild solo guitar... "out"/heady but has legs)sergio mendes & the new brasil '77 - s/t (gorgeous LP ignored outside of brazil)dom um romao - s/t (you'll dig this i'm sure... "on the corner" is my favorite groove that i wish lasted foreverrrrrrrr)joyce - essential joyce (crowd pleaser)
as for krauty stuff in the same vein... that's tough, the only thing coming to mind at the moment is ryuichi sakamoto's "beauty", or arto lindsay's "self" & "noon chill", maybe late 90s stereolab... hell even Senor Coconut. sorry, maybe i should think this over...
Sshasta
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 29 May 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 29 May 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 29 May 2006 05:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 29 May 2006 05:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Monday, 29 May 2006 05:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 29 May 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 29 May 2006 06:04 (nineteen years ago)
no, with: "is there a more lilting goofy soft wing to krautrock to balance out the "cluster 71" side??"
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Monday, 29 May 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 29 May 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)
― JEANNE (ex libris), Monday, 29 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 29 May 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)
Metacritic suggests that folks is peein their pants on this one.
I've heard the first track and was impressed at how quickly/how much it really grew on me. Find something new on each listen.
Anyone else heard it/have any thoughts?
-- Hoosteen (merlindude0...), Today 4:20 AM. (Hoosteen) (later)
Answers
it sound like the best record Beck will never release.the production is great and full of ideas and surprises. but i have problems getting used to the spanish.its just me..
-- coco the kid (s...), Today 7:50 AM. (later)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 29 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 29 May 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)
― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Monday, 29 May 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)
― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)
fusetron description: http://www.fusetronsound.com/label.php?whomart=LASMALASAMISTADES
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)
i forgot to mention that what got me rolling on this whole kick was finding that book in tower records!! i was actually looking for the new 33 1/3 on "paul's boutique" when i bumped into it.
i spent about five minutes with it, read the part about the crazy DMT (ayahuasca?) trip he took w/ gilberto gil (?) where everything he looked at was made of microscopic hindu gods spinning in circles as they danced the cosmic dance.
i liked that part! is the rest any good? i don't know much about the political history of brazil, will i be able to follow it?
also, there's an interesting article in the new wax poetics about "baile dance", not baile funk but the original funk/rock/afro hybrid stuff from the 60s. a lot of it looks pretty hard to find ... a whole genre of "africa brasil" styled dance jams??
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 29 May 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)
YES!!!!
We could meet in the airport bar before my flight. I'm flying out of Oakland, tho.
― JEANNE (ex libris), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 06:38 (nineteen years ago)
i have been playing the living death out of this.
i could totally buy an album that was just different versions of the song 'baby'; i think that would be keen.
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)
all sentiments soundly seconded...
we should actually put a "baby" cdr together...or a 'ysi' thread of sorts
― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)
funny you should mention that, a few hours ago I was holding an original copy of it. 65 pounds though, and we're getting killed on the exchange rate.
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)
this was posted over the weekend http://citiesonflamewithrockandroll.blogspot.com/
― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)
yeah it's on one of the s/t gal albums from '69.
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)
― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)
haven't read that issue of Wax Poetics yet but I think these mixes might be that type of music. they sound like brazilian soul. Vol. 1 is great. I guess ttlab is out of stock ... Other Music might have 'em ...
http://www.turntablelab.com/cds/0/0/8309.htmlhttp://www.turntablelab.com/cds/0/0/1794.html
there's also this "samba rock" mix by the same guys, also very good. w/ brazilian versions of 16 Tons and (even better) that "oz never did do nothin' for the tin man ... " song by America
http://www.turntablelab.com/cds/0/0/1548.html
― Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAETANO-VELOSO-TODO-CAETANO-BOX-CD_W0QQitemZ4882675922QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)
pity that "a lot more" and my bank account don't see eye to eye
― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)
no home should be without a copy of this.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)
http://br.geocities.com/armeniodiscosraros/raridades_fotos/lo_borges.jpg
― Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)
― Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.luizamerico.com.br/fundamentais/clube-da-esquina.jpg
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Renard (Renard), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)
have you heard the english Caetano album from when he was in exile? she covers London London from there. very beautiful.
i gotta let you borrow some Otto. modern brazilian cat. first album is bossa mixed with heavy drum'n'bass (vahid, you should hear this too). second album is still pretty electronic-y, but more song based.
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)
― trees (treesessplode), Friday, 2 June 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)
― jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 June 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)
― jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 June 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)
― jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 June 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:25 (nineteen years ago)
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)
on the "what krautrock will go with this?" question, I think Moebius and Plank's "RastaKrautPasta" LP would be the way to go- specifically because of the amazing song "Missi Cacadou"- so check that out . . . also get the Holger Czukay record with "Cool in the Pool", probably the summer feelgood kraut moment that will work best whilst rockin' flip flops
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:31 (nineteen years ago)
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:01 (nineteen years ago)
― jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)
that record totally rules - best jben.
― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)
― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)
that is only one of the best albums ever, like top ten, better than maybe almost anything else in the entire wide world (and one of my most prized possesions).
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)
― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)
― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)
― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)
― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)
quick addendum, I did pick up this issue and the guy that wrote the sidebar on Uniao Black is one of the DJs who put together those mixes I mentioned upthread
― Renard (Renard), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)
and a sick ass imagehttp://www.krautrockgroup.com/Images/KrautrockImageCollage2.jpg
― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:15 (nineteen years ago)
― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Monday, 26 June 2006 06:03 (nineteen years ago)
oh and BTW - lilting "tropicaliakraut" = 1st cluster + eno album!! not really tropicalia, but hella muggy and tropical and def ethnic, in parts.
― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Monday, 26 June 2006 07:13 (nineteen years ago)
http://cgi.ebay.com/CLUSTER-GROSSES-WASSER-1979-SKY-027-GERMANY_W0QQitemZ270001325658QQihZ017QQcategoryZ306QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
― XD (eman), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)
― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)
ill end up downloading, but if its not worth my last rapidshare usage of the day, let me know...
― bb (bbrz), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)
― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Thursday, 29 June 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)
― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Thursday, 29 June 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)
― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Thursday, 29 June 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)
from silver wheel of prayer, it's fucking intense!!!
can anybody recommend the next roy montgomery alb to move on to? i've got "hash jar tempo" and the "harmony of the spheres" tracks
― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)
t/s: harmonia "de luxe " vs cluster "zuckerzeit" vs "cluster and eno" (1st)
also the only copy of "e2-e4" i've found lately was $29.99!!! where can i get it CHEAP???
― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 06:00 (nineteen years ago)
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 06:31 (nineteen years ago)
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 06:32 (nineteen years ago)
you really think i can afford prices on THE BAY?(actually that didnt go for much)
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)
KIM'S UNDERGROUND ha -- crazy when that place is cheap
― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)
have you ever heard "sol y sombra" by fugu?
Steve Shasta
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)