DON'T SAY "FOLK-PSYCH-DRONE"

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― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

say "nu-weird"

― =[[ (eman), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

i like folk-psych-drone

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

me too (as w/all psychedelics, in controlled doses)

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

it's too hard to think of anything else

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

i like 'acid folk' more than 'psych folk' or 'folk psych.'

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

i think i'll just start saying "hippie horseshit"

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

BEARDO DISCO

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Beardisco

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

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― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

lol what a sweet elderly bear couple

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

oh crap what have i done

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

say 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% garbage without a shred of quality control.

― Igor Adkins (Grodd), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

sure, but i still don't buy the greatful dead

― bb (bbrz), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

its a good name.

why do indie people always get in a huff about genre names?

― -- (688), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

im loving the last chamillionaire album, just dont call it "hip hop"

― -- (688), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

why do indie people always get in a huff about genre names?

lol seems that you are the one huffing. point is that there should not be a "folk-psych-drone" genre. there could be nothing more boring than this, surely. so when i say "don't say it" i mean don't talk about it.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

hey jess can you get some track reviews done in the HIPPIE HORSESHIT categorie????

― hippo eats dwarlf (lfam), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

i like 'acid folk' more than 'psych folk' or 'folk psych.'

me too

― ferzaffe (flezaffe), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

as original as my mom's tole paintings of owls in the 70s

― Igor Adkins (Grodd), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

dude what the fuck

― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

drone folk not the preceding post -- THATS WHAT THE FUCK.

― Igor Adkins (Grodd), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

i wasnt huffing, the lift was broken, and i had a heavy bag of folk-psyche-drone cds

― -- (688), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

xpost UH i was just talking about that awesome video

― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

sowwy.

― Igor Adkins (Grodd), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

gramps gripes thread pt. MCXXIV

― =[[ (eman), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

the lift was broken, and i had a heavy bag of folk-psyche-drone ~~cds~~ cd-rs

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 21 August 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

i don't understand what tim ellison has against charalambides.

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Monday, 21 August 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

I've never followed them. The genre always seemed unambitious to me. You have this tradition of '60s/'70s psychedelic folk, but you want to REDUCE it? Get rid of the whole great songwriting aspect of the genre so you can experience it as drone music instead? I don't get the appeal. As far as drone music goes, you already have Indian classical music. You already have LaMonte Young. And as far as "drone-folk," have any of these people ever been anywhere near as ambitious as Sandy Bull?

It's just interesting that some things progress so slowly in underground music now. Even ten-plus years ago, I don't know how much I was buying this stuff w/ Charlambides or No Neck Blues Band or certain New Zealand groups or Tower Recordings or Ashtray Navigations or whomever. Now an entire decade has passed and it's still going on!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 21 August 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

with age comes critical acumen (though not in 99.999999% of the cases, including me)

― Igor Adkins (Grodd), Monday, 21 August 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

TS: "hippie horseshit" vs "hippo houseshit"

― genital hyphys (haitch), Monday, 21 August 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

i only knew about psych-folk (meh) and psych-drone (it's ok but i'm a girl, very sensitive ^_^) but i don't know about folk-drone or folk-psych-drone. is this important u_u

― nazi bikini (harbl), Monday, 21 August 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

Tim OTM, I remember we joked at the record store a decade ago when that "Ecstatic Ass-Run" series of LPs came out that it had to mark some sort of nadir of the stuff. who knew.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

the only one of those i like was Crude's. Matt Middleton is terminally underrated.

― Igor Adkins (Grodd), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

this is an ILM thread

― Wuffy the cat-rescuing dog (superultramarinated), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

Get rid of the whole great songwriting aspect of the genre so you can experience it as drone music instead?

I don't get the hype, personally. The idea is interesting enough, but I hear only one song that qualifies as a real song. The rest plays like Cro-Magnon-style drone with electric piano. Whatever the case, K Sanneh's Kraftwerk thing from his review is pretty far off base.

Who knows? Maybe I need to fall off the marijuana wagon for further inspection.

-- O'Connor (oconnorscrib...) (webmail), July 3rd, 2006 10:11 AM. (OConnorScribe)

― =[[ (eman), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

lol songs

― =[[ (eman), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

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― rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

i like certain drone hyphenations though

― rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not here to argue, but i don'think the "we already have la monte young, hindustani music" argument holds water when your thesis is "more great songwriting" because, sheesh, pal, we've already got plenty of great song writing in the psychedelic rock & folk realms (barrett whom you love, rapp whom i love, simon finn, ISB, comus, linda perhacs, pentagle & fairport folks, tyrannosaurus rex, sybelle baier, holy modal rounders, etc etc etc.)

You can listen to all the Of Montreal you want, if that's what you see as the most fruitful outgrowth of the psychedelic era.

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

No eman I'm not saying, "Songs were the one true direction that was forsaken." Just describing why I saw/see it as an unambitious genre.

Ian, I really like the last two of Montreal albums, and psychedelia is only one element on those. But if you're asking "Do I think a track like 'I Was a Landscape in Your Dreams' is a fruitful outgrowth of the psychedelic era?" then I will say "Yes" to you.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't asking, I know you like that band!

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO YEAH CRUDE WERE COOL

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

the key point is that a lot of the drone (and noise, for that matter) are pretty lazy without much thought put into it -- not that some don't enjoy listening to every shitty practice tape or scrap a band puts out. none of which is to say i dont like plenty of noise and drone.

― Igor Adkins (Grodd), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

while i have to agree that quality control is soudly lacking, and plenty of utter crap gets tossed into the stream we fish from, there is something quite important offered by a music that approaches, with modern ears, history, and experience, the embracing of disparate elements and still provides a certain pastoral or natural feel.

lamonte young sure aint dreaming up the future i want to inhabit. i love the work he has done, as well as sandy bull, etc,etc, etc ... but the artists playing in this style of now (and you can't say that these musics arent of now, honestly) are indeed both reacting to current trends (in music, The World, and most importantly, the lives we (can)live now) and presenting a certain atmosphere and vision of the future.

songs are good, but songs are not enough.

yes, yes, yes...(yeahyeahyeah), shedloads of banal, under-rigorous work, but that will be true everywhere ( always/already ;) )...

― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

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