remember when people had these silly musical sub sub sub genre?

illbient

if people had invented the 'ambient industrial' label sooner, i would have spent less time listening to crappy downtempo stuff

Has the Lex discovered the possibilities of inanity that come from making genres for everything yet?

oh god that'd be like giving hitler the bomb

i have always hated modern baroque pop/ chamber pop. be a fucking pop band or don't.

"Chamber pop" (haha, just typed "chamber poop") doesn't bother me as much as orch-pop. Sounds dumb.

"popera"

crunk
snap
screw
hyphy

i like metal subgenre names. so precise: death metal, brutal death metal, melodic death metal, technical death metal, brutal melodic technical death metal, symphonic black metal, polkagrind...

Ambient Isolationist was so hip in 95.

rolling 2007 folktronica thread

lol NAMES

it's all just music, right guys. just good music.

labels are for jars

jars are for jams

jar jars binks

he just is

Jar Jar Binks Poetry By Aussie Ben

Jar Jar is red like a sheet,
He's the nicest Gungan you'll ever meet,
Jar Jar, Jar Jar, you're so great
Fortnightly you should exfoliate.

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When you want a mighty warrior, look not for a Jedi man,
For you'll find no greater fighter than the noble Gungan clan.
Almighty Jar Jar Binks was the greatest of them all,
As he charged with the Jedi into battle, he stood up straight and tall.

So when you think of pride, remember true that day,
Of the mighty fighting that is the strong, proud Jar Jar way.
This silent unsung hero, remembered by a select few
Had the brains, the courage, to do what none else could do.

-------------------

I wish I had a tongue as long as Jar Jar Binks,
For with it I could do all sorts of clever things.
I could eat in the McDonalds drive through
I could eat while in the grass
But best of all I could even lick my

Ice cream cone.

------------------

Jar Jar Binks is really sweet,
I'd like to meet him on the street.
If I did I'd shake his hand
And tell him I'm a fan so grand.

-------------------

Everybody picks on Jar Jar, but he's my special friend
We've got a special friendship that will never end.
He tells me that I look the best
In my lovely white buckled vest.
He likes how meals come three times a day
Nice and neat on a silver tray.
And what he likes the best of all
Are my lovely soft white padded walls.

if people had invented the 'ambient industrial' label sooner, i would have spent less time listening to crappy downtempo stuff

fies on Saturday, March 3, 2007 9:33 AM (4 hours ago)

LOL i've been listening to this, this and this over the past week for old time's sake.

http://www.discogs.com/release/22650

(of course the be-all-end-all of this movement is those "electric ladyland" discs that mille plateux but out, but i'm not, uh, hardcore enough for seven volumes of that yet ... will there be a box set? anybody want to sell me their complete collection of mille plateux discs? JESS?)

weird shit happened to that last link. it should've said

http://www.discogs.com/release/22650

er i mean

next on the shopping list

this link style is extremely counterintuitive for me. fuck this crappy new board.

i like metal subgenre names. so precise: death metal, brutal death metal, melodic death metal, technical death metal, brutal melodic technical death metal, symphonic black metal, polkagrind...


cf wikipedia beefs over this kinda crap

i have a gnomic metalhead friend who will never explain any subgenres to me except to tell me i am always wrong. "so...is this doom metal?" "no!" "how about this?" "oh, come on."

it's fun.

cue akbar, "it's a trap!"

yet everybody that's ever thought of writing about music for anybody ends up going there.

i know i've wasted too much breath on arguing about what "emo" is in the past.

a mistake? of course.

but... no more retarded than about 95% of the things people get huffed on? hard to say.
m.

when i moved here i learned that the hawaiian reggae scene (and its huge here) is called "Jahwaiian" music.

that's silly AND awesome

Jah Jah Binks

(full circle!)

i like metal subgenre names. so precise: death metal, brutal death metal, melodic death metal, technical death metal, brutal melodic technical death metal, symphonic black metal, polkagrind...


cf wikipedia beefs over this kinda crap

JW on Saturday, 3 March 2007 22:32

OTM, I looked at the talk page for Death Metal for the first time Tuesday and it's absurd.

remember when every old ray bryant album was "acid jazz". i think every jazz album made in the 60's and 70's with a funky breakbeat on it was "acid jazz".

i am still so rare groove.

Blackened Death Metal

" Blackened Death Metal " ?! WTF?!

The fact that you have never heard of blackened death metal makes you an unqualified editor. Pasajero 06:05, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

That's because its called Black Metal!

Nope, blackened death metal is not the same as black metal... Wildnox

The very fact that I am enjoying Behemoth right now, and not hearing ANY black metal influences, speaks clearly to me that the term "Blackened" Death Metal is a fictive genre invented by mallcore kids who listen to various popular melodic black metal artists and have no clue about what real, true Black Metal is about. Lyrics account for about 5% of the Black Metal and Death Metal genres - And these genres are absolutely not alike each other in any way, except that they may sound similar to the untrained listener (Otherwise known as a poseur) Daniel A. A. 08:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Also, I've now had a chance to listen to Zyklon as well, and already about three seconds into this song, I had absolutely no doubt that Zyklon is Death Metal. Emperors "IX Equilibrium" has absolutely nothing to do with Death Metal whatsoever. Who has been smoking something they shouldn't when they invented this pseudo-genre?

whenever i hear "backened death metal" i'm always thinking of chargrilled chicken or something

hahahaah oops "backened"

blackened death is really popular right about now. so many hybrids. i am hearing so many thrash/black/death albums. should probably just call them "metal" albums.

seriously

having said that, I'm a huge Dissection fan, and their first two albums are the very definition of blackened death. MELODIC blackened death metal, even.

storm of lights bane PWNS

i have it on right now!

radical!

so nice to know that you like it. one of my fave modern metal albums evah. everyone should own a copy.

kinda sad that dude killed himself SHORTLY AFTER my review of the last album appeared:


http://www.decibelmagazine.com/reviews/june2006/dissection.aspx


but hey, i was kinder than most. most people hated on it pretty fiercely.

seriously, storm is majik or something. like a once in a lifetime kinda thing.

i wrote this for a free paper down south where roger adultery can be found:


@title:Dissection
@subhead:Leader of Swedish blackened death metal legends goes to Hell

By Scott Seward

@body:
When news spread this past August that Jon Nödtveidt—infamous leader of the legendary Swedish blackened death metal band Dissection, avowed Satanist, and convicted murderer—had stepped into a ring of lit candles and blown his brains out in what seemed to be a ritual suicide, well, it was hard to shed any tears. Here was someone who, as a card-carrying member of a group called the Misanthropic Luciferian Order, had long talked the talk and now seemed to be walking the creepy walk. Let’s put it this way: he was no weekend fire-and-brimstone warrior.
The response by the online metal community was swift and characteristically blunt: “He must have heard his new album!” “What an idiot, good riddance!” “Hey, I like Dissection, this is, um, almost sad?” It was a mixed-emotions affair. There were people, like me, who swear by Dissection’s second full-length album, 1995’s Storm of the Light’s Bane, and consider it one of the truly great melodic blackened death metal albums of all time, and who could ignore the extra-musical gunk that Nödtveidt trafficked in. Then there were those who could never get past his role in the murder of a young Algerian immigrant, brought about either by the man’s nationality or by his sexual orientation, or possibly both, depending on who you believe. (It’s easy to understand that position—Nödtveidt took part in some odious stuff.)
And there are still more people who couldn’t forgive him for finally getting out of the pokey after seven years, recruiting a pick-up band of grizzled metal vets, and releasing Reinkas, an ultra-melodic and simplistic affair that never reached the heights (depths?) of his past work. It got panned almost universally. Metal fans can forgive murder or a church-burning or two, but not a weak album.
I actually liked Reinkas. It was catchy! And its dirt-simple riffs spoke to my hard rock heart even if lyrics like “Zazas zazas nasatanada zazas!” didn’t. Having said that, I wouldn’t recommend that anyone run out and buy it. It’s clearly the work of someone who wasn’t around metal for most of the ’90s, and, as a result, it has a strange time-capsule feel to it.
This can’t be said about Dissection’s 1993 debut, The Somberlain, or Storm of the Light’s Bane, two albums that were very much of their time and that would prove to be hugely influential among death and black metal bands around the globe for years to come. They were also the work of an actual band that worked and practiced together to hone a sound that managed the tricky feat of combining harmonious melodies with the speed and aggression of death and black metal to stunning affect. The End Records recently reissued both albums with more bonus demo/live/EP action than you could shake a Satanic stick at, and all of it together provides a fascinating glimpse at one band’s creative process and growth as a unit.
Look, here’s the thing: Suicidal Swedish Satanist meatheadisms aside, art can be messy. The people who make art can be even messier. In my perfect world, all art is confined to the fantasy realm of album, book, canvas, and people who are interested in them can talk about ideas rationally and harm is never visited upon anyone in the name of proving anything about anything. Leave people the fuck alone. That’s my motto. Most metalheads would agree. Most people would agree. Scribble and scream your guts out all you want, though. There’s all the room in the world for that.
And in that spirit, Storm of the Light’s Bane is a true work of art. The Somberlain is a solid and entertaining work made by a young band just getting a handle on what they can achieve and put to tape; it’s a truly impressive debut. But Storm is something else. If you’re going to sell your soul, sell it to make something like Storm. It’s a hypnotic, dense, heavy, evil record with an aura that can be hard to describe in earthly terms. It has melodies that soar high above on zombie angel’s wings, and undercurrents that exist somewhere below the river Styx, which just sounds ridiculous. But it’s that kind of record. Dissection’s use of black metal’s repetitive and relentless riffing at warp speeds is not only ominous and worthy of a Darkthrone album, it helps to create an atmosphere of contained and highly controlled chaos that still rivals anything to come out of Sweden since. And a lot has come out of Sweden since! Nine out of 10 Swedish citizens are in, or thinking of starting, a melodic death metal band. It’s a fact.
In the end, Jon Nödtveidt was a pretty messed-up dude who loved heavy metal and Satan. (He wrote about metal and was involved in a slew of side projects, some of them very good indeed.) Maybe he loved them a little too much. And once upon a time he made one of the great metal albums ever, an album that proved to be far better than almost anything he was ever involved with before or after. I would recommend it to anyone interested in the modern history of heavy metal. The end.

RIP crazy guy from Dissection

I think it's nice that people have nice things to say.

wow, now i need to seek out those dissection records.

you also forgot christian death metal, speed metal, hair metal...

i really really also hate the subgenre math rock.

BUT I LOVE REGGAETON AND SALSATON

(the editor scott wrote that dissection thing for is my gnomic metalhead friend. 2 degrees of noise board.)

intelligent dance music

homocore

wasn't there a house sub-genre called happy handbag or something like that

but the true "junglists" weren't into LTJ Bukem, man

guhh that page makes me ANGRY.

Nintendocore - Metalcore with 8-bit video game music influences

Funcore - a term used by Dutch based Babyboom Records label to describe bouncy techno

Post-hardcore, pre-apocalyptic, science-fiction, drone-loving
Renaissance Man
Oh, what is true? What is real?
No bullshit, brother
Pot-smokin’ Renaissance Man
Wasted effort to stand up
Real things happen when you’re down
Soulcore worship, whirling sound
Brother, make a list, pierce your dick
Future tribal-thought & rebel, greedy Renaissance Man
Backbeat bloody conviction
Power-sludge storm suckin’ down
Violence is cool, one of two things real
Violence is free for all; live for revenge, ideal
Don’t wimp out; kill the pig
There is no doubt; kill the pig
Post-hardcore, hardass, intellectual
Drone-loving Renaissance Man

I cant believe it, the way you look sometimes,
Like a trampled flag on a city street, oh yeah,

And I dont want it, the things youre offering me,
Symbolized bar code, quick id, oh yeah,

cause Im a 21st century digital boy,
I dont know how to live but Ive got a lot of toys,
My daddys a lazy middle class intellectual,
My mommys on valium, so ineffectual,
Aint life a mystery?

I cant explain it, the things theyre saying to me,
Its going yayayayayayaya, oh yeah,

cause Im a 21st century digital boy,
I dont know how to read but Ive got a lot of toys,
My daddys a lazy middle class intellectual,
My mommys on valium, so ineffectual,
Aint life a mystery?
I tried tell you about no control,
But now I really dont know,
And then you told me how bad you had to suffer,
Is that really all you have to offer?

See Im a 21st century digital boy,
I dont know how to read but Ive got a lot of toys,
My daddys a lazy middle class intellectual,
My mommys on valium, so ineffectual,

Thats what I yearn for (21st century digital boy),
Neurosurgeons scream for more (21st century digital boy),
Innocence raped with napalm fire (21st century digital boy),
Anything I want I really need (21st century digital boy),
21st century schitzoid boy (21st century digital boy),
21st century video boy (21st century digital boy),
21st century digital boy (21st century digital boy),
21st century sofa boy (21st century digital boy)...

The hippies are at least doing one thing right.

Jam Band Subgenres: No page with that title exists.

Note: this is possibly because they all sound the same.

Actually that's probably not entirely true, I have heard the words "jamgrass" and "bluesion" uttered from bearded mouths a few times.

grebo

"Bluesion"? Shoot me. "Jamgrass" maybe I could stand (with enough banjo in the mix) but let's not be hasty....

HOT NEW SUBGENRE U GUYSS: BUT LOVE REGGAETON !!!

butt luv reggeaton

Yeah I only actually know of one band that calls themselves "bluesion" to be fair. It is horrendous, it's basically guys playing blues scales but with a drummer trying really hard to be awesome and everybody's guitar tones set to "faggy".

confusion

remember when every old ray bryant album was "acid jazz"

Yeah, but at least all the "acid jazz roots" stuff was actually jazz, whereas most acid jazz was neither acid nor jazz. Discuss.

yeah how come it was called that