The Outsider Music Thread

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Discuss outsider music (what's good, is it really outsider, etc.). I will add more later, but now it's off to work.

― jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

man I hate the term "Outsider Music."

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

hey i like jandek.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe there are two uses of the term, one being music that is "outside" any trends whatsoever and bizarre or eccentric, the other being music made by people who are "mentally disadvantaged?"

I don't know if the Shaggs really fit either. I think they were just trying to do pop/folk rock-oriented music. Their naivete about the song construction is hard to judge. Maybe they were aware of it and just didn't care! The themes of the songs sometimes seem a little childish for their age and the grammar ("The skinny people want what the fat peoples got," etc.) may seem strange for people of their age, too. But it's not all THAT strange; I don't really see them as idiot-savants at all.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"the other being music made by people who are 'mentally disadvantaged'"

Or mentally ill.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i like outrigger music

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

is that anything like outfitter music?
m.

― msp (msp), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

it's like a canoe with a pontoon. and you have some uke and some slack-key.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.moviemusic.com/cdcovers/285/outsiders.gif

Tracklisting
1. Stay Gold - Bill Hughes
2. Fate Theme (Dallas Tragic Music)
3. Country Theme/Brothers Theme
4. Cherry Says Goodbye/Ponyboys and Brothers
5. Dallas Death Scene
6. Fire in the Deserted Church
7. Sunrise/Stay Gold
8. Flight and the Fight in the Park
9. Bob is Dead
10. Train to Deserted Church/Passing Time
11. Go to Rumble Rumble (Gang Fistfight)
12. The Outside In - Bill Hughes

― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

which noize dude is which?

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i am emilio as fuck

― dean? (deangulberry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't so into the Reynols album I had. It was the "________" one on Black Bean and Placenta/Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers. Maybe if it hadn't been Harry Pussy style recording technique, I would have gotten into listening to it more.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 3 September 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

tim, have you heard the no reynols/reynols thing on Freedom From? i like that the best.

as for reynols, i don't really think they are on the "outside" at all, but get tagged that because miguel has down syndrome. the other two are very knowledgable about compositional and experimental music . . .

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 3 September 2004 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

also, as for "outsider", h, what would you suggest to describe a certain set of musicians/music? i know "outsider music" sort of sucks, but when its invoked, people know what's being referenced.

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 3 September 2004 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Feel the Power of Rock and Roll lyrics
Found on Metal Clink Punishment Jail and Greatest Hits Vol. 2 by wesley willis

Play the rock guitar like a rock star
Rock the casbah like a hurricane
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Whip that werewolf with a belt

Feel the power of rock and roll
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Feel the power of rock and roll

Play the Fender Strat guitar
Rock it to the Maxwell House
Rock it on the mic, homey!
Rock Saddam Hussein's ass to Russia

Feel the power of rock and roll
Feel the power of rock and roll
Feel the power of rock and roll
Feel the power of rock and roll

Play the rock solo as hard as you can in Woodstock, New York
Make the crowd of 300,000 people roar like a sea monster
Take everyone on a harmony joyride
Whip the hell out of that werewolf's ass

Feel the power of rock and roll
Feel the power of rock and roll
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Feel the power of rock and roll

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― msp (msp), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

What happened to the "Rock over London, Rock on Chicago" part?

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 3 September 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

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