shd i return my "bukowski: born into this" dvd to ntflx or shd i watch it?

i borrowed that from the library a bit ago... it's tv... like the burger king is supposed to change anybody's life.... he's a funny dude. eot.
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Is this the documentary in which he slaps or pushes his wife/girlfriend?

yes watch it!

bukowski is bogue, man. boring & nasty old drunk. return.

he's pretty funny. he talks like a cartoon cat.

well I was talking abt READING him -- maybe's he better live

ha scott!
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i'll bet i would still like Ham On Rye and Post Office. I haven't read them since i was, like, 19, but I thought they were really good as fictionalized autobio goes.

i still love post office

according to goodlge the only book of his I've read all the way thru -- women -- is on sale at m@xim mag's website. beer & babes, u bet

haha did we all read bukowski at 19 or something? thank god i burned the resulting "poetry."

i read this thread title as "bukowski: born into brothels"

"thank god i burned the resulting "poetry."

amen, brother.

I think this "every american male internet user somehow reads bukowski at age 19" theory has some legs.

Which might explain a lot ;_;

he's a teenage rite of passion. at least for boys. i don't know about girls. although i think i knew some girls who liked him. i haven't read henry miller since i was 19-21 either. but boy i sure did like him! he turned me on to jean giono and knut hamsun and celine and krisnamurti, so i gotta thank him for that. never could get into blaise cendrars, his other hero. or his childhood loves henty and haggard.

fucking. booze. easy to read. funny. what's not to like when you're a kid?

I never did read him. Every poetaster junkie I knew had a shelf full of Black Sparrow, it just made my hackles rise and I still haven't shed the feeling.

Same reason I still can't really enjoy Nick Cave. I know, superficial of me.

oh, and self-loathing! i was REALLY big on that back then.

jon, i think post office is probably worth reading. you can read most of his books in 20 minutes too, so you don't actually have to buy them.

you don't really need nick cave. although the birthday party had their moments. seek out Drunk On The Pope's Blood.

and bukowski was a big mahler fan. i don't know what that does for you.

Yeah I can make a mental cell wall btw N Cave & Birthday Party, fer sure.

Also it's all kind of personal baggage anyway, I mean I love Current 93 and WT Vollmann, and I'm sure the poetaster junkies of the next generation are right there with me, I just never met em.

O yeah I forgot about the Mahler thing! I can drink to that.

"he puked in the piano at a fancy college! punk rock!"

scott repeatedly otm here.

16-bit Intel 8088 chip

with an Apple Macintosh
you can't run Radio Shack programs
in its disc drive.
nor can a Commodore 64
drive read a file
you have created on an
IBM Personal Computer.
both Kaypro and Osborne computers use
the CP/M operating system
but can't read each other's
handwriting
for they format (write
on) discs in different
ways.
the Tandy 2000 runs MS-DOS but
can't use most programs produced for
the IBM Personal Computer
unless certain
bits and bytes are
altered
but the wind still blows over
Savannah
and in the Spring
the turkey buzzard struts and
flounces before his
hens.

Give that man some fucking laurels.

Give Laurel some man-fucking.

The Aliens

you may not believe it
but there are people
who go through life with
very little
friction or
distress.
they dress well, eat
well, sleep well.
they are contented with
their family
life.
they have moments of
grief
but all in all
they are undisturbed
and often feel
very good.
and when they die
it is an easy
death, usually in their
sleep.

now, if you were teaching creative

writing, he asked, what would you

tell them?

I'd tell them to have an unhappy love

affair, hemorrhoids, bad teeth

and to drink cheap wine,

to keep switching the head of their

bed from wall to wall

and then I'd tell them to have

another unhappy love affair

and never to use a silk typewriter

ribbon,

avoid family picnics

or being photographed in a rose

garden;

read Hemingway only once,

skip Faulkner

ignore Gogol

stare at photos of Gertrude Stein

and read Sherwood Anderson in bed

while eating Ritz crackers,

realize that people who keep

talking about sexual liberation

are more frightened than you are.

listen to E. Power Biggs work the

organ on your radio while you're

rolling Bull Durham in the dark

in a strange town

with one day left on the rent

after having given up

friends, relatives and jobs.

never consider yourself superior and /

or fair

and never try to be.

have another unhappy love affair.

watch a fly on a summer curtain.

never try to succeed.

don't shoot pool.

be righteously angry when you

find your car has a flat tire.

take vitamins but don't lift weights or jog.

then after all this

reverse the procedure.

have a good love affair.

and the thing

you might learn

is that nobody knows anything--

not the State, nor the mice

the garden hose or the North Star.

and if you ever catch me

teaching a creative writing class

and you read this back to me

I'll give you a straight A

right up the pickle

barrel.

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Scott I want to wail "The Aliens" over some Voivod "Dimension Hatross" soundalike shit!

dammit

theres cool footage of old la in this movie.

k, i have had a bottle of mid-price riesling, i feel edgy enough to watch this now.