bcz i rly don't care either way, but i'm paying for it, so
― get bent, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago)
i borrowed that from the library a bit ago... it's tv... like the burger king is supposed to change anybody's life.... he's a funny dude. eot. m.
― msp, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 04:13 (seventeen years ago)
Is this the documentary in which he slaps or pushes his wife/girlfriend?
― stevienixed, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 07:22 (seventeen years ago)
yes watch it!
― chaki, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 07:51 (seventeen years ago)
bukowski is bogue, man. boring & nasty old drunk. return.
― m coleman, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 10:27 (seventeen years ago)
he's pretty funny. he talks like a cartoon cat.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago)
well I was talking abt READING him -- maybe's he better live
― m coleman, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 13:31 (seventeen years ago)
ha scott! m.
― msp, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago)
i'll bet i would still like Ham On Rye and Post Office. I haven't read them since i was, like, 19, but I thought they were really good as fictionalized autobio goes.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago)
i still love post office
― ghost rider, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago)
according to goodlge the only book of his I've read all the way thru -- women -- is on sale at m@xim mag's website. beer & babes, u bet
― m coleman, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago)
haha did we all read bukowski at 19 or something? thank god i burned the resulting "poetry."
i read this thread title as "bukowski: born into brothels"
― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago)
"thank god i burned the resulting "poetry."
amen, brother.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago)
I think this "every american male internet user somehow reads bukowski at age 19" theory has some legs.
Which might explain a lot ;_;
― John Justen, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago)
he's a teenage rite of passion. at least for boys. i don't know about girls. although i think i knew some girls who liked him. i haven't read henry miller since i was 19-21 either. but boy i sure did like him! he turned me on to jean giono and knut hamsun and celine and krisnamurti, so i gotta thank him for that. never could get into blaise cendrars, his other hero. or his childhood loves henty and haggard.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago)
fucking. booze. easy to read. funny. what's not to like when you're a kid?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago)
I never did read him. Every poetaster junkie I knew had a shelf full of Black Sparrow, it just made my hackles rise and I still haven't shed the feeling.
Same reason I still can't really enjoy Nick Cave. I know, superficial of me.
― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago)
oh, and self-loathing! i was REALLY big on that back then.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago)
jon, i think post office is probably worth reading. you can read most of his books in 20 minutes too, so you don't actually have to buy them.
you don't really need nick cave. although the birthday party had their moments. seek out Drunk On The Pope's Blood.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago)
and bukowski was a big mahler fan. i don't know what that does for you.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah I can make a mental cell wall btw N Cave & Birthday Party, fer sure.
Also it's all kind of personal baggage anyway, I mean I love Current 93 and WT Vollmann, and I'm sure the poetaster junkies of the next generation are right there with me, I just never met em.
― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago)
O yeah I forgot about the Mahler thing! I can drink to that.
― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago)
"he puked in the piano at a fancy college! punk rock!"
scott repeatedly otm here.
― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago)
16-bit Intel 8088 chip with an Apple Macintosh you can't run Radio Shack programs in its disc drive. nor can a Commodore 64 drive read a file you have created on an IBM Personal Computer. both Kaypro and Osborne computers use the CP/M operating system but can't read each other's handwriting for they format (write on) discs in different ways. the Tandy 2000 runs MS-DOS but can't use most programs produced for the IBM Personal Computer unless certain bits and bytes are altered but the wind still blows over Savannah and in the Spring the turkey buzzard struts and flounces before his hens.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago)
Give that man some fucking laurels.
― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago)
Give Laurel some man-fucking.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago)
The Aliens you may not believe it but there are people who go through life with very little friction or distress. they dress well, eat well, sleep well. they are contented with their family life. they have moments of grief but all in all they are undisturbed and often feel very good. and when they die it is an easy death, usually in their sleep.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago)
now, if you were teaching creative
writing, he asked, what would you
tell them?
I'd tell them to have an unhappy love
affair, hemorrhoids, bad teeth
and to drink cheap wine,
to keep switching the head of their
bed from wall to wall
and then I'd tell them to have
another unhappy love affair
and never to use a silk typewriter
ribbon,
avoid family picnics
or being photographed in a rose
garden;
read Hemingway only once,
skip Faulkner
ignore Gogol
stare at photos of Gertrude Stein
and read Sherwood Anderson in bed
while eating Ritz crackers,
realize that people who keep
talking about sexual liberation
are more frightened than you are.
listen to E. Power Biggs work the
organ on your radio while you're
rolling Bull Durham in the dark
in a strange town
with one day left on the rent
after having given up
friends, relatives and jobs.
never consider yourself superior and /
or fair
and never try to be.
have another unhappy love affair.
watch a fly on a summer curtain.
never try to succeed.
don't shoot pool.
be righteously angry when you
find your car has a flat tire.
take vitamins but don't lift weights or jog.
then after all this
reverse the procedure.
have a good love affair.
and the thing
you might learn
is that nobody knows anything--
not the State, nor the mice
the garden hose or the North Star.
and if you ever catch me
teaching a creative writing class
and you read this back to me
I'll give you a straight A
right up the pickle
barrel.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago)
http://progressiveboink.com/archive/peanuts-by-charles-bukowski/Schroederstrip.jpg
― ghost rider, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago)
http://progressiveboink.com/archive/peanuts-by-charles-bukowski/charliebrown.jpg
― ghost rider, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago)
HOTLINKING
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago)
Scott I want to wail "The Aliens" over some Voivod "Dimension Hatross" soundalike shit!
― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago)
dammit
― ghost rider, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago)
theres cool footage of old la in this movie.
― chaki, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago)
k, i have had a bottle of mid-price riesling, i feel edgy enough to watch this now.
― get bent, Thursday, 2 August 2007 02:22 (seventeen years ago)