RFI: stereotypes about these areas of nyc

or: sum them up in a word or two

alphabet city
noho
soho
e. village
greenwich
nolita
little italy
tribeca
tenderloin
wburg
greenpoint
bedstuy

alphabet city - too many muppets
noho - no hoes
soho - so many hoes

e. village - breakoff from alphabet city
greenwich - home of GMT

that's all.

too many muppets

SOLD!!!!!!

alphabet city - rapidly gentrifying
noho - gentrified
soho - gentrified
e. village - gentrified
greenwich - gentrified
nolita - basically gentrified
little italy - gentrified
tribeca - waaay genetrified
tenderloin - this is chelsea, right? gentrified
wburg - gentrified
greenpoint - almost gentrified
bedstuy - rapidly gentrifying

u_U

IMO greenpoint is more gentrified than williamsburg (as a whole)

i had never heard of greenpoint until today

and i've only heard of williamsburg cause yall talk about it

greenpoint is williamsburg for lazy couples and unfashionable insecure fattening yuppie dudes

how expensive are wburg and greenpoint

Wasn't there just a thread about that ^ ?

Here is my favorite blog written by a 30 something greenpoint woman: http://greenpointers.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-not-get-beat-up-in-hood.html http://greenpointers.blogspot.com/2008/08/real-miss-heather.html http://greenpointers.blogspot.com/2008/09/open-letter-to-gpt-entrepreneurs.html

Greenpoint is also for Polish people, lest we forget. And pierogies.

oh no there are unfashionable people!

i go to new york

oh no there are unfashionable people!

― lil yawne (harbl), Monday, October 6, 2008 4:16 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark

please read blog posts linked upthread

Greenpoint is also for Polish people, lest we forget. And pierogies.

― Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Monday, October 6, 2008 4:15 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

Much in the same way that williamsburg is for tacos! :D

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alphabet city - puerto ricans+bohemians encroached by hipsters+fratboys
noho - NYU/Tower Records Other Music [more a useful geographical designation than neighborhood]
soho - artists+restaurants+galleries urban fashiony/hiphhoppy mall, thronged at peak hours; most expensive place to live in NY
e. village - nightlife central
greenwich - a crossroads, can't generalize; many more visit than live; it's better off-peak
nolita - tiny area with streets with tiny bars/restaurants/shops for tiny models; kinda grungy/kinda pretty
little italy - more a street than a neighborhood; pretty lights, shitty restaurants, tourists, b&t'ers
tribeca - shipping artists well-off young mommies; kinda empty
tenderloin - san francisco
wburg - hipsters; new condos; cheapeats+foodie bodegas; everyone's from Kansas
greenpoint - polish, now with hipsters
bedstuy - do or die

THIS is the kinda thing i'm after xpost

lol that is an awesome blog fight

thanks nebbbbbb!!!

I work in TriBeCa and there's no good food to be had

'tenderloin' hasn't been used for like 100 years, but, except for madison square park, which is one of the nicest places in nyc, at least during warmer months, it's one of the least pleasant/interesting parts of manhattan, mostly business-y and not high-end, though the new 'summer streets' program is doing a little to improve things. mildly pretty-in-parts chelsea, to the west, is known for teh gays, some of the more notable/adventurous galleries in nyc, some minor but worthy arts institutions, some nice residential streets (nabe is best below 23rd st), and the nice new hudson river park along the water.

tribeca = expensive restaurants, robert de niro

my girl works in chelsea and it is bo. ring.

jon go to the whole foods

except for madison square park

and ~bryant park

actually, msp was just off the tenderloin, nm

that greenpointers blog is seriously o_O

so ppl don't say tenderloin, or what

I'm kind of far from whole foods but I bet there are some nice office worker girls I can meet at the salad bar at lunch.

the food is ok, sometimes i walk over there from my office

roxxy i dont think ive ever heard anyone say tenderloin, i thought you were making a san francisco joke until i looked it up

soho+tribeca = cast-iron

alphabet city - e village
noho - not a real place
soho - shopping
e. village - bars
greenwich - connecticut
nolita - trust funds
little italy - lil china more like
tribeca - low key wealth
tenderloin - uh
wburg - youth culture ground zero
greenpoint - pollacks n hipsters
bedstuy - teh hood

There are some awesome places in nolita

greenwich

n.b. "the village"

nolita is the ny neighborhood where you are most likely to spot vincent gallo

ew

Greenpoint's definitely not more gentrified than WBURG. A 900 sqft 1br is about $1,250/month market in GPT ... in Williamsburg that's about $1900-$2000/month. Most of Greenpoint is still grungy and full of places to eat you definitely shouldn't trust. The reason: it's fucking impossible to get anywhere from Greenpoint (most of it is 10 minute walk to the G train/shitty busses).

yeah, jon is totes rong on that. i've had better thai food in gpt than wburg tho.

seems like the greenpoint blog fights are pretty fun tho

Gabbneb, please tell me where you like to hang out in williamsburg

i saw a pair of hassids running/shuffling along the williamsburg bridge last time i was in ny

this is all i know of wburg

I work in TriBeCa and there's no good food to be had

― Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃)

u r rich now, go to nobu

s1ocki, will you marry me?

yes.

I usually find greenpoint kind of depressing.

jon why does lunch matter if they are always buying it for you anyway?

i have never heard of tenderloin.

did jon say there is good thai in wburg? because that makes me lolololol.

Yeah all the thai on and in the immediate vicinity of Bedford seems pretty meh. I do have a vague memory of good thai once on Grand but that was several years ago and I don't know what the place was called.

maybe lily thai? but i don't like them, either.

jon why does lunch matter if they are always buying it for you anyway?

because those are the places i order delivery from lol

did jon say there is good thai in wburg? because that makes me lolololol.

Yea, the thai places are passable at best. I have much better thai punting in the EV.

doing WHAT

prospect-lefferts, bk

that's my neighborhood (prospect heights). also ian's

Park Slope's cheaper cousin .... with parts of it rapidly gentrifying into Park Slope II. a k a caribbeans getting priced out by yuppies.

close to brooklyn museum, prospect park ...

little trinidad

PLG isn't the same as Prospect Heights. It's largely residential except for Flatbush ave and Empire blvd. It's still fairly cheap and 20 minutes from Union Sq. The large apartment buildings on Flatbush and Rogers are recently gentrified/gentrifying, but the neighborhood has been pretty diverse class- and race-wise for a long time.

oh ok. yeah I've never understood where Lefferts is.

It's between Empire and Parkside Ave, north-south, and the park and, I think, Nostrand, east-west.

I think of it as being off the South-East corner of the park, basically where the Lincoln Rd S-train stop is. I looked at some apartments there, it seemed a lot like my old corner of Crown Heights, actually.

opinions?

Flatbush
East Flatbush
Canarsie
East NY
Crown Heights
Endenwald
University Heights
Morris Heights
Hunts Point

east new york is the most dangerous neighborhood in the city

I would rec you scratch East NY off the list; that's not even on the edge of gentrifying anywhere. I don't know it well but it's a by-word for hopelessness, in my experience. Ditto Brownsville, should that come up in your perusal.

Canarsie is like the end of the world to Manhattan-commuting young people, isn't it? I see apts on craigslist for Canarsie and they still want $1100 for a studio or 1BR despite being in "here be dragons" territory.

Crown Heights gets a big "yes" vote from me, but it can be rough -- I lived on one edge and there were def drugs around, a methadone clinic 5 blocks away, etc. But it was really affordable and there's beautiful architecture there still; quick, get into an unrestored place before someone thinks it's important to "update" the parquet floors. Also, I was never followed, approached, threatened, or anything else worrisome at night in almost 4 years there. During the day, however, the cat-calls and street chatter were continuous.

I would move back to Crown Heights in a minute, though, if I found something I could afford alone. It had its frustrations but also its charms. And, I suspect, probably the best West Indian food on the Eastern Seaboard.

yah id def go crown heights before any of those other places

canarsie is the burbs totally

the flatbushes are pretty huge and varied from half way gentrified to the hood too quiet neat little orthodox blocks

besides the aforementioned east new york i dont really know the rest of those places

were i looking for a apt in that price range id do bed-stuy before any of em

A good point: one of the more cohesive elements to the Flatbushes is a big Bobov hasidic community, who seem to be on quite reasonably good terms with their neighbors because Orthodox and moderately observant communities seem to have formed around them, prob due to the availability of kosher foods, cultural offerings, etc. I've seen ultra-Ortho in full get-up walking next to women in denim skirts and sandals, Israeli-style.

the only thing I know about Hunts Point is that there's an HBO documentary about all the hookers there called Hookers at the Point. I'm sure that's a reductive view of the place but hey this is the stereotype thred

o yah thats a sweet movie

hunts point also has a crazy huge wholesale produce market and the new fulton fish market.

noho - marlboro lights
soho - dunhills
e. village - camel lights
little italy - lucky strikes
wburg - american spirit
greenpoint - parliaments
bedstuy - newports

thaaaats preeeety good

omg joe the plumber

university heights in the bronx is where nyu's old campus is. it has that great gould library with the rotunda, a lot like columbia's and built at the same time. pictures of the interior are amazing, it's being restored. nearby is the hall of fame of great americans, maybe the most forlorn place in all of nyc.
the neighborhood around there is kinda sketchy, haven't been around there in ages but somehow doubt gentrification made it that far.

my pal in lefferts was like "its not becoming gentrified at all"

yeah ignore what i said

similar name, totally difft neighborhood

It's not like Williamsburg or anything, but friends who've lived here longer than I say that it's changed a lot in the past couple years.

ohhhh ok

ps dmr were you AT union hall the other day, cause if not there was a guy who looked pretty much exactly like you at the bar that i kept staring at at trying to figure out if it was you

oh shit!! yeah I was there

I was trying to txt some people to figure out if anyone was going out but no one got back to me. had a couple beers at another bar then I wandered into UH on my way home but it seemed like the show was over ages ago .... and it turned out my wife and a couple other people were there who I didn't even know were gonna be there (I was kinda o_0) so I didn't look around that much. totally didn't see you, sry bout that

:D